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a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY

KKKLIP ART posted:

Also, is there a halfway decent beginners bike shoe? I think I'm going to get some 105 pedals.

Try and go to a store in person to try shoes on. They should be a bit wide in the toe box when you’re just standing there, because the forward part of your foot splays out when you’re riding.

I got some Shimano shoes on sale from REI and put up with my toes and forward foot being squished together for years, because I didn’t try them on before buying them. Don’t be like me!

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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

KKKLIP ART posted:

Also, is there a halfway decent beginners bike shoe? I think I'm going to get some 105 pedals.

For a beginner, first clipless shoe, unless you’re ultra confident you’re gonna do exclusively road rides only, no off road, commuting or needing to walk anywhere, everyone would tell you to get SPD (mtb) clipless shoes & pedals.

PD-M540 are perfect double sided clipless SPD pedals and are cheap.

For shoes it totally depends what fits you. There are lots of reasonable options for narrow feet, few for big or wide feet without spending big money.

There are people who fit the DHB lace up shoes, find them decent at £20 on sale and even if they die after a year it’s easily worth it.

There are people with wide feet that can only wear £250+ Lake shoes.

I’d go for SPD shoes from Shimano maybe for a beginner, XC5 or similar. Their current shoes are a bit narrow for me but I think they’re all quality and wear very well.

I really rate Specialized shoes too, though quickly become pricy if you want a boa dial or a nice colour.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

KKKLIP ART posted:

Also, is there a halfway decent beginners bike shoe? I think I'm going to get some 105 pedals.

I really like these:

https://www.fizik.com/us_en/tempo-overcurve-r4.html

You can find them for more like $150 at various places online. Hard to find a boa shoe with micro adjust for both tighten and loosen at that kinda price (most are just tighten).

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

If not the 105 pedals, how do folks feel about the wahoos? I like that they are bi-directional clipping.

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

KKKLIP ART posted:

If not the 105 pedals, how do folks feel about the wahoos? I like that they are bi-directional clipping.

I'm a huge oaf, so being able to just slap my foot down in the pedal in any orientation and still clip in quickly is a huge plus.

I feel that the quality has dropped off a bit since Wahoo bought them, though. My last pair of cleats only lasted a year before a metal bit snapped off of one of them and left the spring too loose to unclip without a lot of movement.

The strange thing is that the cleat that broke was on my non-dominant foot, so it wasn't even like the problem was overuse.

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
I really liked them apart from the experience I had with several pairs of cleats where if I stood on sand, mud or grass for even a minute I had a hard time clipping in

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Hadlock posted:

Am I a bad person for buying a mint 80s Wisconsin made trek 560 and putting a carbon disc fork on it, so long as I save the old hardware

I never really wanted a trek but after my gt edge and Fuji Club got stolen im running out of quality horizontal top tube bikes on the used market but I really love the ride of carbon, not to mention the weight savings

Ok for $300 more I found a pretty good condition Eddie Merckx (sp?) corsa extra in 7-11 livery (red with a partially green down tube) and it's got period correct dura ace AND it's got the Columbus SLX tubing which... Ought to get it under 20lbs? Or drat close

Paint has a couple of extremely minor chips, probably can fix with touch up paint. Chrome is in great shape. It's the correct 56cm frame size I prefer

Probably going to pull the trigger on that

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Hadlock posted:

Ok for $300 more I found a pretty good condition Eddie Merckx (sp?) corsa extra in 7-11 livery (red with a partially green down tube) and it's got period correct dura ace AND it's got the Columbus SLX tubing which... Ought to get it under 20lbs? Or drat close

Paint has a couple of extremely minor chips, probably can fix with touch up paint. Chrome is in great shape. It's the correct 56cm frame size I prefer

Probably going to pull the trigger on that

This sounds amazing

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Hadlock posted:

Ok for $300 more I found a pretty good condition Eddie Merckx (sp?) corsa extra in 7-11 livery (red with a partially green down tube) and it's got period correct dura ace AND it's got the Columbus SLX tubing which... Ought to get it under 20lbs? Or drat close

Paint has a couple of extremely minor chips, probably can fix with touch up paint. Chrome is in great shape. It's the correct 56cm frame size I prefer

Probably going to pull the trigger on that
I think I saw the same one on CL. Please buy it so I don't have to. I definitely don't need another bike.

Angryhead
Apr 4, 2009

Don't call my name
Don't call my name
Alejandro




serious gaylord posted:

Sounds like rapha are in the poo poo.

All these companies going pop right now.

Hope I'm not bringing up a sore topic - wore your Sunday Club bibs today. They've lasted well, for nearly three years now (I tend to only wear them on Sundays though lol)

Not gonna post me in bibs right now but here's a lake:

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Angryhead posted:

Hope I'm not bringing up a sore topic - wore your Sunday Club bibs today. They've lasted well, for nearly three years now (I tend to only wear them on Sundays though lol)

Not gonna post me in bibs right now but here's a lake:


Its not sore, it didnt work out and thats, you know ok. I still got to do something I never, ever thought I could have done. I had world track champions and olympic gold medalists in kits I made which is something I'll never forget and nothing can ever take that away.

You guys were absolute champions, especially during covid and i've sold like 85% of what I made give or take a few sizes in the less popular styles and thats also something most people that tried this cant say.

I'd absolutely do it again, especially now most kits have gone back to being 2 colour boring rear end poo poo again because its safe.

I've also just done an Imperial century on zwift since it wont stop bloody raining in the UK and im running out of time to get my miles in before Chase the sun. Would not recommend.

Angryhead
Apr 4, 2009

Don't call my name
Don't call my name
Alejandro




serious gaylord posted:

Its not sore, it didnt work out and thats, you know ok. I still got to do something I never, ever thought I could have done. I had world track champions and olympic gold medalists in kits I made which is something I'll never forget and nothing can ever take that away.

You guys were absolute champions, especially during covid and i've sold like 85% of what I made give or take a few sizes in the less popular styles and thats also something most people that tried this cant say.

I'd absolutely do it again, especially now most kits have gone back to being 2 colour boring rear end poo poo again because its safe.

I've also just done an Imperial century on zwift since it wont stop bloody raining in the UK and im running out of time to get my miles in before Chase the sun. Would not recommend.
Well I'm glad to hear that :) The bibs (and shirt) were the first pair I ever bought so there's a special place in my heart for them. If by chance you happen to have anything left in Medium let me know.

That's a looong ride on Zwift! I happily rode the trainer over this winter and even did 4h rides and enjoyed it but as soon as I headed back outside something broke in me again and I've stuck to outside, even on rainy and lightly snowy days.

Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel
Curious how worried of rust I should be with a waxed chain. I did a slightly muddy ride, where the brakes, forks etc got pretty caked but the chain stayed dry.
When I rinsed the bike after I got a bit paranoid and ended up taking a hair dryer to the chain. Should a wipe down with a cloth to get the excess water off before storing it some place dry be adequate?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


you could just be like me and ride through mud season without washing your bike once

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


its the washing too much that's gonna rust everything

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


always dry a chain after riding in the wet imo

it'll probably still rust but only superficially and wear off the next ride

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013
Today I learned that Shimano no longer provides brake bleed blocks with their drop bar brakes and apparently GRX use a special size. I have a collection of MTB bleed blocks and none of them fit. What a lovely move Shimano

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Math You posted:

Curious how worried of rust I should be with a waxed chain.

Just ride it. Don’t store the bike in the damp, but don’t sweat itx

The chain will get loud and encourage you to throw it in the pot long before it becomes compromised by rust.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Fun Shoe
Cross-posting to the Camping Gear thread.

I tried to erect my Solitare AL for the first time a month ago, and the long tent pole broke. They sent a replacement, and from April 4th until this past Friday, it was "moving through the USPS system" in a nearby town; I had to email them to tell them something was amiss. They found it, and I got it Friday. So today, I put up the tent for the first time.

It's a neat little tent, and man does it pack up pretty small. Not bad for a tent that's not specifically made for bikepacking.

So, I have a shelter. I need to assemble some minimal equipment for my first proof-of-concept bikepacking trip. A sleeping pad, some kind of cover or blanket, pillow, cooker, and light. I have this crazy idea of trying to guess what I'll need, take it along, and then buy what I'm missing when it comes time to do something and I don't have what I need to do it.

So... full disclosure: I'm a former Boy Scout who joined mainly for camping. I've camped a lot, and for years, I've only camped where there are electrical hookups. But, it's still tent camping. So, I know how to camp when carrying cargo isn't an issue. But, I've never done proper backpacking.

So... does anyone know of a good, vetted video or something for Babby's First Bickpacking Adventure? I'm looking to do just one or maybe two nights in a nearby (about a 20-25 mile ride) state park. My candidate bikes both have Topeak rear racks, and I have a bag with fold-out panniers. These are useful for grocery runs, but storage is obviously limited.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


bikepacking.com has a ton of resources, both on their website and youtube, I would start there

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

tarlibone posted:

] A sleeping pad, some kind of cover or blanket, pillow, cooker, and light. I have this crazy idea of trying to guess what I'll need, take it along, and then buy what I'm missing when it comes time to do something and I don't have what I need to do it.

So... full disclosure: I'm a former Boy Scout who joined mainly for camping. I've camped a lot, and for years, I've only camped where there are electrical hookups. But, it's still tent camping. So, I know how to camp when carrying cargo isn't an issue. But, I've never done proper backpacking.

So... does anyone know of a good, vetted video or something for Babby's First Bickpacking Adventure? I'm looking to do just one or maybe two nights in a nearby (about a 20-25 mile ride) state park. My candidate bikes both have Topeak rear racks, and I have a bag with fold-out panniers. These are useful for grocery runs, but storage is obviously limited.

We have a bike touring thread that's active enough, in which you should solicit advice. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3933885

Re light -- on tour, I've always been in a trio, and I never have anything besides my phone, and the other two have headlamps that red light modes. That's been enough coverage for all night activity. The only downside to the headlamp is moths and less savory insects divebombing your forehead.

Cooking -- you have to work backwards from how many resupply points you'll have and how much variety you want to buy and carry in between.
It would be rare that we could go more than one day without buying food, so we were generally fine getting heavy cans and heating up instead of much more expensive freeze dried ingredients or premade meals.

A fancy night for us would be "i'm gonna buy a couple tomatoes to add to the bbq beans." Eating a hot meal at night was more of a sanity measure than much of a dining experience. The rest of our calories were relatively dry breakfasts, gorging on snack/bar food during the day, and hopefully a lunch out.

The harder you're riding, the less the taste of the food matters, at least.

mikemelbrooks
Jun 11, 2012

One tough badass

serious gaylord posted:



I've also just done an Imperial century on zwift since it wont stop bloody raining in the UK and im running out of time to get my miles in before Chase the sun. Would not recommend.
We have one ride of 95miles under our belt and another Century planned for the back holiday, we also did the New Forest Sportive a couple of weeks ago only about 70 miles but good for the atmosphere and getting reactions from people from saying it was cheating to chapeu because we were on the tandem.

Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel
The big thing I'd recommend if the hobby takes is investing in a dehydrator. You can make an endless array of tasty meals at home, that rehydrate quickly when you're on the trail. With the cost of freeze dried poo poo you can recoup the cost of a dehydrator in a couple of trips.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I've done the new forest sportive a few times, always a good time but when I ride those roads every week kind of feels silly to pay for the privilege.

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

I’m doing an 800km ultra next weekend and the longest ride I’ve done this year so far is 120km on the turbo because the UK weather has been so bad this year.

Oh no

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Im looking at Salida this year (47mi, 4500ft, starting at 7k elevation, and most of the climb in the first 15 miles) and staring at "well I am up to an hour of riding... and 600ft... in zwift... at 1000ft of elevation" and going "what have I signed up for?!"

But we'll each get there.

If I go to strava and sort my activities by climb the biggest number is less than 4k. Its gonna be fun! Right?

Jesse Ventura
Jan 14, 2007

This drink is like somebody's memory of a grapefruit, and the memory is fading.

tarlibone posted:

So... full disclosure: I'm a former Boy Scout who joined mainly for camping. I've camped a lot, and for years, I've only camped where there are electrical hookups. But, it's still tent camping. So, I know how to camp when carrying cargo isn't an issue. But, I've never done proper backpacking.

So... does anyone know of a good, vetted video or something for Babby's First Bickpacking Adventure? I'm looking to do just one or maybe two nights in a nearby (about a 20-25 mile ride) state park. My candidate bikes both have Topeak rear racks, and I have a bag with fold-out panniers. These are useful for grocery runs, but storage is obviously limited.

Overnights are easy. You've got your tent and sleeping bag/pad. Presumably you already have tools to fix flats and other minor issues. You'll want camp clothes, but you won't need a second pair of bike shorts. You'll want a stove, bowl, spork, and food, but with a 50-mile round trip it won't need to be a lot of food. (Calorie counts on longer tours tend to be pretty absurd). In May or June you won't even necessarily need a headlamp, depending on when you go to bed, although it's always good to have a light in case something goes wrong. Basically anything else is just a creature comfort.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

I’m doing an 800km ultra next weekend and the longest ride I’ve done this year so far is 120km on the turbo because the UK weather has been so bad this year.

Oh no

Rip

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

ilkhan posted:

Im looking at Salida this year (47mi, 4500ft, starting at 7k elevation, and most of the climb in the first 15 miles) and staring at "well I am up to an hour of riding... and 600ft... in zwift... at 1000ft of elevation" and going "what have I signed up for?!"

But we'll each get there.

If I go to strava and sort my activities by climb the biggest number is less than 4k. Its gonna be fun! Right?

As with most things with riding, pace and fuel properly. I've not done the Salida course, but have ridden a lot in the area, I would also ensure that you feel comfortable with your climbing gears and make sure it will give you a good cadence. I also don't think the Salida climb is all together is it? That's not very typical of the courses out here.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

vikingstrike posted:

As with most things with riding, pace and fuel properly. I've not done the Salida course, but have ridden a lot in the area, I would also ensure that you feel comfortable with your climbing gears and make sure it will give you a good cadence. I also don't think the Salida climb is all together is it? That's not very typical of the courses out here.
Its this one https://ridewithgps.com/routes/40941018
Its not *all* together, but almost 60% of the climb is in the first 11mi.

My chicken out option is to ride tour of the moon (same date, damnit, I wanted to ride both), which is less climb at a lower altitude. I currently live at about 1200' elevation, its a big difference.

ilkhan fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 29, 2024

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Continental Touring 28 Light tubes are fragile garbage. That is all

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

ilkhan posted:

Its this one https://ridewithgps.com/routes/40941018
Its not *all* together, but almost 60% of the climb is in the first 11mi.

My chicken out option is to ride tour of the moon (same date, damnit, I wanted to ride both), which is less climb at a lower altitude. I currently live at about 1200' elevation, its a big difference.

Oh, I've actually ridden the first part of that climb up to N Backbone. From what I remember, it's not too bad, but if you're nervous I'd have a good granny gear. It's beautiful!!!

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Continental Touring 28 Light tubes are fragile garbage. That is all

lol tubes

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003



They're in our future touring bikes and I wanted to keep tubes in to make maintenance on the road easier, but we've rode the loving things on three 40+ mile rides and gotten flats on two of them. Just going to convert them to tubeless I guess.

They've got Gravelkings on them and I never once had a flat on Gravelkings on my tubeless set up in four years. Two flats now in four weeks with tubes.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Lovely bikes besides the paper mache tubes though

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

vikingstrike posted:

Oh, I've actually ridden the first part of that climb up to N Backbone. From what I remember, it's not too bad, but if you're nervous I'd have a good granny gear. It's beautiful!!!
34x36 if I don't get a Grail or Grizl (waiting on GRX 2x12 Di2), 31xsomething if I do. Endurace will be marginal for the gravel I think, so hopefully they release this summer.

Glad to hear it's worth the ride, we're spending a week in the area.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I've been running tubeless on the front and tube in the back for 3-4 months now

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


The Fool posted:

I've been running tubeless on the front and tube in the back for 3-4 months now

Is there an advantage to doing this? The two blowouts I had were front and back.

Front was glass, back was who the gently caress knows what, I didn't ride over anything that wasn't standard gravel.

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

The Fool posted:

I've been running tubeless on the front and tube in the back for 3-4 months now

but the back is where you get all the punctures…

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I doubt it?

I had a giant piece of glass in my rear tire and couldn't plug it and I'm being lazy

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