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Note: I was silly and distracted and forgot to do the shuffling I wanted to do: My intention was to have The Estates for 6 players, and Bus for non-top 300.
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Aug 12, 2020 07:25
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Shadow225 posted:I am not sober so it was the best time to get the unofficial poll together. Never used google forms so I hope it works Excuse me, but I have a real copy of & Cetera. No true pick up and deliver artist would settle for this off the shelf 20th anniversary one box solution.
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Aug 12, 2020 10:14
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I can't tell if I was left off the Japanese import list because you didn't realize Wind The Film! is a Japanese import, because you didn't think it was as cool/obscure, or because I still don't own a goddamn copy.
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Aug 12, 2020 11:30
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I'm pretty happy with how my selection turned out.
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Aug 12, 2020 12:10
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I'm pretty happy with how my selection turned out.  Goon drafts will never be free from Zendo.
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Aug 12, 2020 12:12
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Tekopo posted:Goon drafts will never be free from Zendo. It wasn't anyway, nimby picked it. And what is "rosking"? Because apparently Zendo rosks.
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Aug 12, 2020 12:19
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Jedit posted:It wasn't anyway, nimby picked it. I don't follow. Is there some other consulting detective game that would necessitate the preamble?
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Aug 12, 2020 12:32
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Jedit posted:It wasn't anyway, nimby picked it. Over Hill and Under Hill is a fudge too.
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Aug 12, 2020 12:38
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Casnorf posted:I don't follow. Is there some other consulting detective game that would necessitate the preamble? There's Ada Lovelace: Consulting Mathematician.
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Aug 12, 2020 13:19
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Dancer posted:Note: I was silly and distracted and forgot to do the shuffling I wanted to do: The estates is listed up to 5 players
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Aug 12, 2020 15:18
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ketchup vs catsup posted:The estates is listed up to 5 players Huh. Okay. Then gently caress it. Embrace the chaos of 6p Food Chain Magnate  . If any player at the table can predict what will happen by the end of the round, you're playing it wrong.
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Aug 12, 2020 15:55
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Dancer posted:If any player at the table can predict what will happen by the end of the round, you're playing it wrong. This, but for all games and unironically.
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Aug 12, 2020 16:01
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Dancer posted:Huh. Okay. I will post a trip report as soon as possible. I had a 6P game planned in the Before Times and actually preferred playing the game with 5 beforehand.
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Aug 12, 2020 16:33
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Changed Dancer's >300 pick to Bus. To be clear, your official participant votes get sent to me via DM. The google poll up top is for everyone, including participants, but don't affect in draft evaluations.
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Aug 12, 2020 18:32
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Grading Scale: Not switching theme games: 100 points Switching theme games: -100 points Stupid Choices:-25 points Parlor Games:-25 points Smart Choices:25 Points Zendo:-500 Points making GBS threads on Terraforming Mars:-50 Points rchandra Dominion Switched theme and a stupid choice at 6 players -125 points Spirit Island Smart choice 25 points 1846 Switched theme but a smart choice -75 points Codenames Smart choice 25 points Age of Steam Switched theme but smart choice -75 points Sekigahara - The Unification of Japan Smart choice 25 points Star Wars: The Queen's Gambit No switch but stupid choice 75 points Backgammon Stupid choice -25 points The Crew Switched theme but smart choice -75 points Titan Smart choice 25 Points Score:-200 Rchandra: You have some good picks in there, but you couldnt stick with your theme round picks. Also, this is a board game draft not a parlor game draft so get backgammon the gently caress out of there. Youre better than this or maybe you arent since you scored negative. ketchup vs catsup Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiation in the Elysian Quadrant -Theme + Smart 125 points Gloomhaven Smart 25 points Automobile On theme but stupid choice 75 points Arkham Horror: The Living Card Game Smart choice 25 points The Voyages of Marco Polo On theme + smart 125 points Forbidden Stars Smart choice 25 points Battlestar Galactica One theme and smart 125 points Android: Netrunner Smart choice 25 points Barrage One theme + smart 125 points Russian Railroads Smart choice 25 points Score: 700 points Ketchup vs catsup: drat! This list is straight fire with the exception of Automobile which makes me want to take a nap just thinking about how boring that game looks. silvergoose Napoleon's Triumph On theme, but the stupid loving choice x4 0 points Through the Ages - Smart Choice 25 points Poker On theme, but no parlor games please 75 points Hansa Teutonica -Smart choice 25 points Riichi Mahjong On theme, but again get your parlor games out of my board games 75 points Bridge Holy poo poo grandpa this isnt a retirement home -25 points War of the Ring 2E On theme and smart 125 points Guns of Gettysburg Sure whatever 25 points Wind the Film On theme and maybe cool 125 points Shogi -IM DONE WITH YOU -25 points Shat on Terraforming Mars -50 points Score: 375 points Silvergoose: Your list was saved by a few smart picks, and not changing your theme picks. Im sending you to a home though as thats where youll find a playerbase for your old rear end parlor games. Dancer Food Chain Magnate On theme and a great game, but so bad at 6 players 100 points Galaxy Trucker Smart pick 25 points The Estates On theme and a smart pick 125 points Wir sind das Volk! -Smart pick 25 points John Company On theme and a smart pick 125 points Bus -Smart pick 25 points A Game of Thrones: The Board Game 2E On theme but not a good game 75 points Santorini -Smart pick 25 points Via Nebula On theme and smart pick 125 points Quantum- Smart pick 25 points Score:675 Dancer: Awesome picks overall. Lost some points on FCM because its terrible at 6 and for picking Game of Thrones which is an exercise in imbalance. nimby Twilight Imperium 4th Edition On theme and a smart choice 125 points Dungeon Petz -Smart choice 25 points Colosseum On theme and smart choice 125 points Mage Knight -Smart choice 25 points Kemet On theme and a smart choice 125 points Vinhos -Smart choice 25 points Star Wars Rebellion On theme and smart choice 125 points Chaos in the Old World Smart choice 25 points Terraforming Mars On theme and a smart choice 125 points Zendo -Stupid choice and ZENDO -525 points Score:200 points Nimby: This hurts so much. You were so close to greatness. You could have had a perfect score, but then you had to go and pick Zendo. WHY? loving TELL ME WHY YOU HAD TO RUIN EVERYTHING! You bring shame to your house for a dozen generations because of what you did here today. blackmongoose 1830 On theme and smart choice 125 points Brass: Birmingham -Smart choice 25 points Chicago Express On theme and a smart choice 125 points Concordia Smart choice 25 points Twice as Clever On theme and smart choice 125 points Kanban -Smart choice 25 points Star Wars Armada On theme but stupid choice 75 points Tragedy Looper -Stupid choice -25 points Great Western Trail On theme and smart choice 125 points Maria -Stupid choice -25 points Score:600 points Blackmongoose:Overall a pretty good list. Armada should have been x-wing which also gives you big loving ships, but is fun to play. Maria puts me to sleep and tragedy looper is both too much and too little anime Memnaelar Argent: The Consortium On theme and a smart choice 125 points Gaia Project -Smart choice 25 points Madeira On theme and smart choice 125 points Underwater Cities Smart choice 25 points Cthulhu Wars -On theme and s smart choice 125 points Space Alert Smart choice 25 points A Study in Emerald 1E On theme, but should have been 2nd edition 100 points Archipelago- Stupid choice -25 points Millennium Blades On theme and smart choice 125 points Glen More II -Smart choice 25 points Score:675 points Memnaelar: Really great list, only major misstep was Archipelago. That game has so much promise, but never lives up to expectations. It also has some of the most poorly written rules/card text in recent memory and needed an English as a first language copy editor badly. Expecting big things from you in next years draft. casnorf Cosmic Encounter On theme, but a deeply stupid pick 75 points Pandemic Legacy -Smart pick 25 points Mythic Battles: Pantheon On theme and a smart pick 125 points Acquire -Smart pick 25 points Liar's Dice On theme, but no parlor games 75 points Star Wars: Imperial Assault -Smart choice 25 points Crusader Kings On theme, but a deeply flawed games 75 points PARKS -Smart choice 25 points Rising Sun On theme and a smart choice 125 points Hive-Smart choice 25 points Score:600 points Casnorf: Major stumble out the gate, but a solid recovery for a pretty decent showing. Great writeups, clearly has their head in the game, but needs to work on the fundamentals. DogCop 1889 -Changed theme but smart pick -75 points Pax Pamir 2E -Smart pick 25 points Container -Changed theme and a stupid pick -125 points Indonesia-Smart pick 25 points Root On theme and a smart pick 125 points Crokinole -Smart pick 25 points Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation On theme and a smart pick 125 points Bridges of Shangri-La stupid pick -25 points Psychic Pizza Deliverers Go to the Ghost Town On theme and cool pick 125 points A Fake Artist Goes to New York Smart choice 25 points Shat on Terraforming Mars -50 points Score:200 points DogCop: Should have made good picks during the theme rounds instead of moving them all around. I like your list and you would have had a decent score if you just stuck to your original picks. Also, play Terraforming Mars with better people, its a delight. PseudoScorpion Keyflower On theme and smart choice 125 points Twilight Struggle Smart choice 25 points Lords of Vegas On theme and smart choice 125 points Dune Smart choice 25 points Roll for the Galaxy On theme and smart choice 125 points Caylus -Smart choice 25 points Batman Love Letter -Changed theme but smart choice -75 points Glory to Rome -Smart choice 25 points Blue Lagoon On theme and smart choice 125 points Cribbage -Parlor game -25 points Score:500 points PseudoScoprion: Im not mad at this list. Stick with the themes next time and youll have a decent career at this. Jedit Roads & Boats -Changed theme but smart choice -75 points Orleans -Smart choice 25 points London 2E -Changed theme but smart choice -75 points A Feast for Odin -Smart choice 25 points Island Project On theme but bad choice 75 points Mysterium Smart choice 25 points Armata Strigoi On theme and a cool choice 125 points The Gallerist -Smart choice 25 points Smartphone Inc -On theme and a good choice 125 points Fast Sloths Good choice 25 points Shat on Terraforming Mars -50 points Score:250 points Jedit:I had low expectations and am pleased that they were exceeded. Why you felt the need to move around your themes the world will never know. I think youre a player that just has to go by the beat of your own drum. You have the ability to make some amazing picks, but the drama off the field may make it too hard to justify keeping you on the board. Bottom Liner Dominant Species On theme and smart choice 125 points Antiquity -Smart choice 25 points Through the Desert On theme and smart choice 125 points Inis -Smart choice 25 points Command and Color: Ancients On theme and smart choice 125 points Agricola -Smart choice 25 points Marvel Champions: The Card Game On theme and smart choice 125 points Tigris & Euprates -Smart choice 25 points Nokosu Dice On theme but bad choice 75 points Tash-Kalar: Arena of Legends -Smart choice 25 points Shat on Terraforming Mars -50 points Score:650 points Bottom Liner: Stuck to your theme choices, great overall list. 2016 was a long time ago and a lot of amazing games have come out since then, but you had to go with your twee import. Choices were made and youll have to live with the knowledge that you could have been #1. Chill la Chill Mega Civilization On theme and great choice 125 points The Great Zimbabwe -Smart choice 25 points Neuland On theme great choice (crap art) 125 points Modern Art -Smart choice 25 points Troyes -On theme and great choice 125 points Chinatown -Smart choice 25 poiints Robotech Force of Arms On theme but stupid choice 75 points Reef Encounter -Smart choice 25 points I don't wanna leave kotatsu On theme but bad choice 75 points Go -Parlor game -25 points Shat on Terraforming Mars -50 points Score:550 points Chill la Chill: Follows closely in Bottom Liners shadow. You let some personal preference get in the way of smart choices when it came to Robotech. Doctor Spaceman Zombicide On theme but bad choice 75 points El Grande -Smart choice 25 points Northern Pacific On theme and smart 125 points Dungeon Lords -Smart choice 25 points Outfoxed On theme but bad choice 75 points Ra -Smart choice 25 points Over Hill and Under Hill (LotR LCG) On theme and smart choice 125 points Consulting Detective (Sherlock Holmes) -Smart choice-ish 25 points Kingdomino On theme and smart choice 125 points San Juan -Bad choice -25 points ZENDO LONG CON -500 points Score:100 points Doctor Spaceman: I really appreciate the effort it took to limit your picks to games that would allow you to spell out your poor opinion to the world. A real Schwarzenegger effort there. The fact that you got so many solid picks while doing that makes me question if you arent actually the best drafter playing today. The amazing talent is really being hampered by some bat poo poo crazy beliefs though. Results: ketchup vs catsup 700 *WINNER* Dancer 675 Memnaelar 675 Bottom Liner 650 blackmongoose 600 casnorf 600 Chill la Chill 550 PseudoScorpion 500 silvergoose 375 Jedit 250 nimby 200 DogCop 200 Doctor Spaceman 100 Rchandra -200
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Aug 12, 2020 18:40
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I enjoy that picking stupid but on theme is worth more than picking smart.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:01
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Casnorf posted:I enjoy that picking stupid but on theme is worth more than picking smart. My scoring system was as well thought out as the theme round rules were.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:05
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Suddenly Susan posted:My scoring system was as well thought out as the theme round rules were. I'm proud of you. A little more effort, though, and you could have made it so I came out on top for maximum audience salt. I'm gonna rate your peanut gallery a solid Walnut. I like'em, but more effort than they're usually worth unless someone else does the shelling. I think your shitpost game has potential, but as we all know, potential is a fancy french word that means you ain't worth a drat yet.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:08
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Thanks Susan, that's a v good writeup of my choices. Agree with it all: kotatsu is a weaker pick than Nokosu, WTF, or psychic pizza, but it is a very comfy pick. Same with robot game, it is definitely a poorer battle line.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:16
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I don't see price to weight ratio in there
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Aug 12, 2020 19:18
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StashAugustine posted:I don't see price to weight ratio in there This is a rutibex free thread
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Aug 12, 2020 19:19
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StashAugustine posted:I don't see price to weight ratio in there I didn't think Rutibex was still around...
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Aug 12, 2020 19:22
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I can live with Susan's evaluation. It's fair, within her parameters for fair. I have a hard time living with the slander for Archipelago, but I can't argue the rulebook/translation issues part. They had... problems. Haunted that I could have had number 1 if I'd just stuck with something less controversial. 
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Aug 12, 2020 19:25
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Memnaelar posted:I can live with Susan's evaluation. It's fair, within her parameters for fair. I truly want to love Archipelago but it falls flat every time, and always in a new and unique way. I need to get Living Planet to the table a couple more times to give it a fair judgement, but I think it may fix most of the issues with Archipelago.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:29
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Suddenly Susan posted:My scoring system was as well thought out as the theme round rules were. On the subject of the theme round rules: I did feel that it was slightly unfair they were all odd rounds. This gave the people at the front of the draft first pick with all the restrictions. While technically this did mean the players at the back got the first free selections, the themes were loose enough that they could be played around and because swapping at the end was permitted you could take something that barely counted with the aim of replacing it later. If there had been no swapping allowed then there's no way I take Roads & Boats as a game for six. Next year, assuming it's ten rounds again, I would suggest having four themed rounds and making them rounds 1, 4, 7 and 10.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:30
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I'm actually very curious about the results of the google form unofficial vote as well. RIP goose,'t wasn't included in the JP import wagon
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Aug 12, 2020 19:35
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Jedit posted:On the subject of the theme round rules: I did feel that it was slightly unfair they were all odd rounds. This gave the people at the front of the draft first pick with all the restrictions. While technically this did mean the players at the back got the first free selections, the themes were loose enough that they could be played around and because swapping at the end was permitted you could take something that barely counted with the aim of replacing it later. If there had been no swapping allowed then there's no way I take Roads & Boats as a game for six. Next year I hope Shadow seeks out my draft rules and format consulting service. If he does I can guarantee there will be no Air Bud rules, and that there will be more draft strategy required to succeed.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:36
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I will also not stand for this slandering of automobile
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Aug 12, 2020 19:37
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I am also hoping for gateway to grognard to be next year's draft theme/limitations.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:38
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Chill la Chill posted:I am also hoping for gateway to grognard to be next year's draft theme/limitations. So we all know what games to never let anyone play ever? I don't want new grogs. The existing ones are bad enough.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:46
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Suddenly Susan posted:I truly want to love Archipelago but it falls flat every time, and always in a new and unique way. I need to get Living Planet to the table a couple more times to give it a fair judgement, but I think it may fix most of the issues with Archipelago. I'm *very* curious to hear what parts of LP fixed Archipelago for you, because I had (as I mentioned in my write-up, I think) the opposite reaction. For me, LP strips the life out of Archipelago and leaves something... flat behind. Then again, you also prefer ASiE 2e over 1e and I felt the same way about that re-imp. Which isn't to say you're wrong (in as far as subjective tastes can be) but more just thinking out loud. Seriously interested in LP thoughts as I really want to give it more of a chance but have a hard time with how uninspired it leaves me.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:46
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Having my brilliancy unrecognized because someone fails to appreciate Game of Thrones just makes me lmao. It is: - Diplomacy, but better - TI, but better - a brilliant board game embodiment of the political dynamics of the IP it's based on. Possibly the best (other than maybe that Star Wars grail game that I had never heard of before this draft). There are many bad and mediocre things C. Petersen has to account for, but this is not among them. Trash write-up, trash judgement, trash person. Join the draft next year and beat me scrub  .
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Aug 12, 2020 20:38
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lmao Terraforming Mars "smart choice"
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Aug 12, 2020 20:41
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Dancer posted:lmao Terraforming Mars "smart choice"
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Aug 12, 2020 20:47
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I think there are definitely arguable reasons why Terraforming Mars was a smart choice, for its own merits and for the meta. Regardless of what the audience says, let's not sour the experience by talking poo poo about one another's picks.
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Aug 12, 2020 20:57
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Memnaelar posted:I think there are definitely arguable reasons why Terraforming Mars was a smart choice, for its own merits and for the meta. Regardless of what the audience says, let's not sour the experience by talking poo poo about one another's picks. 
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Aug 12, 2020 20:59
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Tekopo posted:Isnt that the point of the draft though That's Zendo trauma talking and I'm here for the healing.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:01
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Memnaelar posted:I think there are definitely arguable reasons why Terraforming Mars was a smart choice, for its own merits and for the meta. Regardless of what the audience says, let's not sour the experience by talking poo poo about one another's picks. Thankfully there is no congeniality award
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Aug 12, 2020 21:17
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Some picks may have been for the memes.
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