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Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Well, Adventures of Tom Sawyer was published in 1876, so a few years prior to this; Huckleberry Finn is the year after. There *were* lots of different Robin Hood plays and stories floating around, though. Very little in this book is new with Pyle.

The setting of Adventures of Tom Sawyer was the 1840's. Robin Hood and his Merry Foresters, by Stephen Percy, was published in 1841, and although it doesn't include the dialogue quoted by Tom and Joe Harper, does have the line "and with one sudden back-handed stroke slew poor Guy of Gisborne on the spot." It may have been the book Twain was referencing.

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Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Dareon posted:

I honestly have no idea what is meant by humming ale.

Like getting buzzed.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Cobalt-60 posted:

What exactly does Little John do in the Sheriff's service? Since the historical Sheriff was an extortionate jerk, I'd think any principled man would avoid working for him; let alone one who's supposed to be on the other side. And what was Robin's response? Did Little John run into some of his old colleagues at the blue Boar and they go "Man, WTF?"

Also, why did the Sheriff follow Robin Hood into Sherwood Forest alone, carrying a lot of money? Even if he was greedy enough to go into his enemies' territory, I'd think he'd have brought an escort. (Not that it would have done him much good.)

Eh, this is pre-Modernist English Literature, there's not even an attempt at realism.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:


I searched local british cheeses for Lincoln, Sherwood, and Nottingham, and found this:



Unfortunately the British cheeses of today are nothing like what was available in the era of Robin Hood. Cheese used to be made by every farm that had dairy animals, as a way of preserving the nutrients of fresh milk. There were thousands of cheesemakers and the variety of styles far surpassed what's available today, which is almost entirely wheels of firm, low-moisture varieties along the lines of Cheddar. The Industrial Revolution began the decline in quantity, but it was the creation of the Milk Marketing Board in the 1930's, which guaranteed farmers a good price for their milk and arranged for it to be collected from their farm that really killed farmhouse cheeses. Before the First World War there were over 3,500 farmhouse cheese-makers in the UK. By the end of the Second World War, barely 100 were still making cheese. The vast majority of what exists today is factory cheeses that are virtually indistinguishable from each other. The last 30 years have seen a renaissance in farmhouse production but it's still a tiny fragment of the total amount of British cheese produced. Lincolnshire Poacher has only existed since the 1990s.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

When I think bread and cheese, I always think a soft brie.

There are still many examples in France of farmstead cheeses, known as tommes. These cheeses are small, may weigh as much as a few pounds, with a rustic rind and medium moisture. The texture can be dense or lacy. Here's an example of what one looks like, but they can vary in shape from squashed spheres to flat, short cylinders.


Higher moisture, surface ripened cheeses similar to brie are also typical farmstead styles, although you had a better chance of getting sick from lysteriosis with these.

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Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Google tells me that's only a concern for people with "weakened immune systems", so it's all good, right?

Yes, and your chance of contracting it now from cheese is far, far less than in olden times, which is why I worded that in the past tense. Besides higher sanitary standards, any cheese sold in the US that's above a certain moisture content must be made of pasteurized milk. You have nothing to worry about.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

Jo Joestar posted:

IIRC, a lot of cheese made in the medieval period would have been hard skimmed milk cheeses (the most famous modern cheese of this type is Parmesan), particularly at the lower end of the economic scale.

Many medieval cheeses are still being made to this day and are immensely popular household names. Most of these are French and Italian. They are whole milk or part-skim. Parmigiano Reggiano is a blend of whole and skim milk, and dates back to this period.

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Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

quote:

Moore of Moore Hall obtains a bespoke suit of spiked Sheffield armour and delivers a fatal kick to the dragon's "arse-gut" - its only vulnerable spot, as the dragon explains with its dying breath.

This quote caused me to immediately recall a favorite illustration from my childhood and put it in context, thanks.


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