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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, the Saxon/Norman split comes in with Walter Scott's Ivanhoe. Pretty much all scholars agree that it's historically nonsensical -- King John was technically king of the "Angevin Empire" which held England and large chunks of France, and by the Henry II / John era the Norman Conquest is a hundred and fifty years in the past. Wales would be independent for another hundred years, and Scotland for another two hundred. On the other hand, y'know, the whole Forest Law thing above was basically a Norman law getting imposed onto English native culture from outside. I can't think of a single 20th century Robin Hood adaptation that didn't make Maid Marian a central character. Even the USSR version, which could really benefit from more poor proletarian robbers.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:
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Gilbert's "A man cannot do aught but his best" is of course taken directly from Ivanhoe, where Hubert (whose grandsire may have drawn a good long bow at Hastings, but who doesn't make it into the final three here) competed with "Locksley," in an archery contest sponsored by Prince John.
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Aug 4, 2020 17:30
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And so they called him no more "thy sly Will Stutely". "Good! Stupid nickname anyway, don't know what I was thinking when I came up with that one", Will Stutely would say, and bang his fist on the nearest hard object for emphasis.
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Aug 8, 2020 06:56
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:On the one hand, this means that Pyle just cut out one of the very few speaking roles for a female character in all the early ballad sources. On the other, though, this way he avoids any hint that Robin was carrying on with a married woman, again fitting in with Pyle's quaker morality (Pyle also was known for only teaching his students to draw from clothed models).
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Aug 10, 2020 10:46
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quote:"Yea, truly, saw ye not birdlime upon his hands?"
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Aug 27, 2020 20:32
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I'm not entirely sure how "robbing from the rich to give to the poor" is Marxist. It's socialist-Christian if anything (which also predates Marx).
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