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https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/1290831330947805184 He's almost certainly a top 10 pick in the next draft, joining two other probable first round picks in Rashod Bateman and Caleb Farley Penei Sewell seems to be supporting the Pac-12 demands, so you kinda wonder if he might be inclined to do the same.
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Spoeank posted:bring us all your busts He's a good player, it's just he's got Josh Gordon level substance abuse issues that ruined his career.
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It looks suspiciously like the Dolphins might have had potential spread within the team- I think the initial round of back-to-work testing is over, you had Davon Godchaux go out and now you've got suddenly a bunch of guys also getting put on the list like a day or two after. Edit- https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1291471945570095108 Seems like someone on the team tested positive and other players were exposed, unless they're all loving around socially or something? Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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sharknado slashfic posted:What the gently caress is it with Miami and their sports teams Miami-Dade county is like the hottest metropolitan area in the country right now in terms of getting the plague.
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Spoeank posted:Remember when New England had no cap space They're going to need that to roll over to 2021 to pay for the guys who opted out this year, though. It's not by any mean ruinous(especially because they've got a lot of real cap space in 2021), but you're kicking the can down the road on guys in their early to mid 30's with significant dead cap space. Some of these guys Belichick probably wanted to re-evaluate this year, and instead he's going to have a 34 year old Patrick Chung or a 33 year old Marcus Cannon on the roster pretty much regardless if their dicks fall off and roll down a storm drain.
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Aug 7, 2020 22:16
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Nodoze posted:He'll probably cut half the opt outs tbh Maybe, but you're pretty much stuck with Cannon and Chung(which seems like an uncharacteristically irresponsible contract now that I'm looking at it). Dont'a Hightower is pretty much a unicorn, but I kinda wonder if they didn't end up drafting Anfernee Jennings to try and replace him so you never know I guess. That's the bulk of the money there.
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Aug 8, 2020 16:19
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Does opt out cap space roll over? Cause by overthecap the patriots are sitting on 74mil in space for 2021. Haven't seen it explicitly said anywhere but I'm 95% sure, it doesn't really make any sense for it not to be.
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Aug 8, 2020 16:30
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I'm not sure if the Chiefs are the best example, but if you take George Kittle away from an outside zone heavy scheme he's not the same blocker IMO. He's so loving good at knowing how to mess with edge defenders when they're trying to maintain their position when the flow is going laterally- when to torque a guy off balance, or use their momentum against them, etc. to punch above his weight class, or when he gets a shot to get to the second level. I don't think there's any shame because there a lot of guys we think of elite who are right guy/right scheme fits, but if you ask Kittle to down block on a DE week to week IMO he's going to take more than his share of losses than some of these bigger more powerful TEs.
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Aug 8, 2020 20:31
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fartknocker posted:The league needs more massive, pure blocking tight ends like Howard Cross or Brandon Manumaleuna were. Those guys own. I think the way college football has shifted to the spread and the way sports science allows for guys to be much bigger and faster than 30 years ago has really kinda hosed with positional slotting as far as what the NFL would prefer. All of the guys who would be big "Y" tight ends are now just getting 20-30 pounds bigger and playing somewhere on the OL. All of the old I-form fullbacks are somewhere on defense, all of the old split-back guys are never learning how to block as slot TEs, etc. and so on. IMO like at a certain point teams should just have a guy be like Eric Beverly- an OK center that got converted to TE by the Falcons in the early 2000's. I'm sure you could take a mediocre pulling guard and turn him into a better fullback than most of the guys that are getting fielded out there too.
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Aug 8, 2020 22:58
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Kalli posted:Damnit Dude was almost 80 and died because of a motorcycle crash, that's pretty wild.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:38
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a neat cape posted:The cap isn't real The cap is real but it's more complicated than just cap space + obligations. Things are going to get real interesting next year if the cap ends up being $175m though. Like the Eagles, Falcons, and Saints look like they're in for some real pain: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/
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Aug 13, 2020 22:54
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Silly Burrito posted:Y’all say that about the Saints every year. How many of those years did the salary cap get reduced by $40m+ because of the plague
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I don't think I watched a Saints game last year can someone help me figure out what the gently caress a Taysom Hill is and why is it making $10m a year did Jeff Ireland convince them to do Pat White 2.0
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Aug 14, 2020 02:40
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Ches Neckbeard posted:N This is real bold of Greggg when the dude has got to know deep down he isn't as good a coach as Carroll and the amount of problems he runs into throwing everything and the kitchen sink into his defense.
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Clark is like the one true 2-gap nose tackle in the league who can also rush the passer at a high level. He really is kind of unique, I'm sure Belichick would have wanted to use some of that 2021 cap space if he broke loose.
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Aug 15, 2020 16:47
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SHOAH NUFF posted:That sounds like what Dontari Poe was supposed to develop into after his great rookie year but his back broke Maybe Vita Vea will get there, but it never really seems to work. Even Haloti Ngata ended up being more just good for his build than genuinely good as a pass rusher.
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https://twitter.com/reinhurdler/status/1294654832461185024 It's mostly the more athletic guys, which I guess is logical but kinda wild Luck is so far ahead of everyone else. https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/status/1292188508904476673 RIP sweet price
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Aug 16, 2020 02:16
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SKULL.GIF posted:Yes, I read the tweet. Is the eligibility criteria an insurance thing ("it's not bad enough yet so we won't pay for the operation") or a medical one? I'm sure there's some degree of risk to the surgery, and he doesn't think it's worth it to doctor shop for a medically unnecessary surgery to keep playing. Financially he just signed what was likely his last NFL contract as a 28 year old serviceable starter, and I'm pretty sure he gets to keep everything except the roster/workout bonuses. A pretty solid chunk of his money was guaranteed, and I don't think teams make it a habit of trying to get back signing bonuses in scenarios like these- it probably counts as retiring due to injury as he can't pass a physical and it's only hypothetical he would be able to in the future. He might be able to keep all but like $1m of an $18m contract.
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wandler20 posted:Let's check in on the Tom Brady arm situation: You've only got a handful of those, probably don't use them all up during camp?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick has almost as many kids as Phillip Rivers and I think his loose, devil may care attitude on the field indicates that he is a good sex-haver.
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a neat cape posted:Saban's pretty good I don't know that Saban really counts the same way. They co-created the coverage schemes that are probably the most important shared link and a big aspect of their success since then.
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a neat cape posted:https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1295786525326704649?s=19 I think asking the HOF voters to make a decision based on like the influence of scheme and innovation is a problem. Most of these guys don't know poo poo.
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Kalli posted:If it's Lombardi and it isn't bullshit, then it's probably either the Raiders or Patriots. I'm not sure the Patriots(or for that matter, Dolphins/Giants/Lions) would spend a high pick and salary on an OLB without much coverage experience. Belichick at least really seems to try to buy low on guys he has to teach or project on that kind of stuff.
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Kalli posted:It would make sense that next year's draft picks are just going to be worthless. But I mean, it's Lombardi, if he has any sources, it's gonna be Pats or Raiders. I could see 3rd day picks getting swapped for boxes of toilet paper, but if anything I could see the earlier picks if anything being worth more. If teams are out there bidding for a small selection of blue chip players and they're doing so after losing $40m+ in salary cap space I could see a 2nd still being pretty worthwhile.
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SKULL.GIF posted:If you haven't heard, the Packers decided to throttle media coverage of their training camp and practices. Here's an article reacting to that that I thought made a bunch of good points, and on top of that revealed certain things about how teams actually engage with sports journalism despite pretty much every single front office openly scoffing at the idea. It's an NFL rule, but teams are implementing and interpreting it differently. The Dolphins are also taking a hard line, and it's been really loving stupid. They're training a guard to play center and some his snaps were rough and it was clearly obvious the guy was playing the position but they had to describe how he was in a "new role" and that it somehow caused issues with the snap. Then several times the players have said stuff(like a Center talking about lining up next to a rookie RG) which the media couldn't actually seemingly say even after the media.
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fsif posted:Yeah what exactly is the rationale behind tighter reporting restrictions for beat writers this season? I can't really find anything but I was under the impression that because they're cutting down on the amount of media in attendance(largely to the detriment of some of the smaller outfits), they're restricting the reporting to not "favor" the organizations that do have access. Seems like a bit of an excuse to cut back in general though.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Patriots won’t allow the press to report on who is returning punts. The Dolphins local press has gotten around it by saying that a player "has been given every opportunity" to earn a starting job rather than saying that they're starting.
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Eifert Posting posted:I've seen a few teams try and switch des to te, what's up with that? Colleges aren't really producing enough traditional "Y" tight ends to meet demand anymore. A lot of guys don't learn to block worth a poo poo and college programs hide them with slot/H-back reps, and even the guys who have solid experience in-line generally seem to be pretty mediocre. Some of the inherent "mismatch" properties of the position in the passing game isn't just being 6'5" or whatever, it comes from creating a gap in the run game- forcing the defender in coverage to also defend the gap in the run game, and all of the different ways you can then leverage being in conflict against the run and the pass. Some of the stuff you get by virtue of showing up- but if a guy can block it's better and more effective. DE makes sense because a lot of the guys who would be playing the position 20 years ago are probably getting slotted as a DE by colleges now. Some of the basic physicality probably translates well- they know how to square up with guys in their weight class, and the emphasis on explosion off of the LOS(and the pass rush moves) seem like they might translate pretty well to in-line TE releases. The learning curve is probably still steep enough that you're going to end up with like an Anthony Fasano or Dan Campbell or whatever rather than the next Gronk or Witten, but those guys are still kinda rare as it stands. I don't know why the NFL doesn't go back to playing more with four true wide receivers anymore and just don't loving worry about the extra gap. A 4th CB is probably a pretty good target for a mismatch, and it worked pretty well in the 80's and 90's in the NFL. Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Pre-snap scheming. A TE can block or catch, a 4th WR can't really. If you have 4 WRs on the field, the defense knows pretty much what's coming and can adjust for it. I think the assumption that more blockers = better blocking isn't necessarily correct though, and at least at the CFB level isn't really how everyone operates. If you're at significant risk of losing the gap that the TE is creating in the run game, why bother with it? Like the basic math of gaps created vs. the number of box defenders doesn't really change. You've got one more gap than defenders in the box(before a safety comes into the box, 2-gap, etc.) either way. You cut down on the number of run concepts and pass protection schemes you can run, but you're also cutting down on what the defense can do against it. Eifert Posting posted:How many established quarterbacks have the line and the skill right now to make 4 reads? Yeah but you've got five eligible receivers on the field no matter what your personnel package is, and six man protection schemes w/ a runningback are most commonly what teams are running in 2020 anyway. Like the run and shoot was big long fad in the 90's with 4 WR + back as an every-down deal was completely viable. Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 23, 2020 |
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fartknocker posted:Viable, but flawed, which is why the pure Run & Shoot with 4 WR and literally no tight ends on the roster faded away with only a handful of teams heavily using it (And their track records were... uninspiring). A ton of the concepts of it are still around, particularly a lot of what you see in spread concepts with option routes and whatnot. It works as a good package, just like jumbo/goal line and 2 TE and whatnot, and I'd agree teams should try going to 4 WR sets more often than they currently do (I think Atlanta did it a good bit during part of their Super Bowl run season), but I think most teams like the idea of their #1 TE being on the field more than their #4 WR. Yeah I don't think it should be an entire offense, but there sure seems like there should be a lot more of it than there is in the NFL. The thing that supposedly killed the run and shoot was the advent of the zone blitz loving with predictable six man protection schemes, but that's like 100% got to be solved at this point given where college and the NFL are in terms of packages and the passing game, and where the zone blitz is.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Am I I guess the alternative you'd have to believe is that a bunch of teams in different metropolitan areas all had pretty significant outbreaks(greater than we've seen so far) at the same time, and it's an unrelated coincidence they were all went through the same testing center. Penisaurus Sex posted:To my knowledge PCR tests are very unlikely to throw false positives, but they do throw false negatives. I think the suggestion is that there was some sort of contamination at the testing center.
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https://twitter.com/RyanTalbotBills/status/1298705999528898561 I wonder if the NFLPA is going to end up regret pushing to cancel the preseason. I think it was probably the right thing to do at the time, but right now it seems like at very least *training camp* has been reasonably safe, and it looks like this is really going to gently caress with a lot of marginal players.
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Are we sure that breaking unions is the way to counter cops? Unions are generally a good thing... whatever will the labor movement do without the police union there to
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a neat cape posted:It's a lot easier when teams are all together and there's no travel. The season will start fine, but there are gonna be major spikes around week 3 I dunno, it's not like teams are out there flying coach on a crowded regular flights and loving around through the airport concourses or anything like that. Not sure they're sharing hotel floors with regular guests either.
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MakaVillian posted:Someone mentioned something many, many pages ago that stuck with me: Sure the first few weeks should be be ok, but what happens when your team is 1-5 and you're flying into NYC, LA or Vegas? Are you going to really care about quarantine when your team sucks and you have a chance to go out and party? I'm sure there's going to be someone who fucks up out there, but there are also fines and suspensions attached to stuff like that.
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