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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

MikeJF posted:

Wasn't the Enterprise model being too big for most of ILM's techniques half the reason for the trouble with ILM, too? It severely restricted what they could do.
The Cinefex article about ST3 opens with the main ILM guy on the film (Ken Ralston, I think) talking about how much he hated the Enterprise and what a pleasure it was to blow it up, even if only by proxy (the main shooting model was unharmed). ILM disliked the model intensely because it was much bigger than they would have made it, had to be rewired to work with their systems, was initially too shiny to use with their bluescreens (so had to be repainted or dulled down) and - they thought - only looked good from a limited number of angles.

I do think there was a degree of "not invented here", though. They went all-in on the Excelsior, which they designed and built, because they thought it was going to become the new main ship.

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
The most stupid/aggravating thing about 09 was the whole "you have the conn, not-even-graduated Cadet Kirk"/"Woohoo! I'm in command forever! No take-backsies!" contrivance to put Kirk in the captain's chair, where he has to be at the end of the origin story. It'd be like the captain of the USS Nimitz putting the kid who brings his coffee in charge of a shift for a joke, then getting killed in a surprise attack and the kid now stays in command of a carrier strike group because nobody can remove him. It's almost aggressively insulting to the audience, but the filmmakers didn't care because they had no other way to get him there within their dumb hash of a story.

The second-most was Kirk and Spock actively loathing each other for most of the film, then suddenly becoming best buds for no reason because again, they have to be friends at the end to meet audience expectations.

There were things about 09 that worked, like the emotion of Kirk's father's sacrifice and the later echo when Spock loses his mother, but there was so much else overpowering these moments that was painfully forced and moronic.

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