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The ACA is good. It personally helped me and people I know, and has helped literally millions more get healthcare and treatment that they wouldn't have otherwise. The idea that the ACA is what prevents us from having a better healthcare system is bullshit. The claim goes that since it wasn't perfect, it's an obstacle to that better system. You can see the sleight of hand in Willa's post - the ACA could have had a public option and price controls, and it doesn't. It could and should have had those things, and it was also a mistake on Obama's part to spend so long negotiating with Republicans. But I don't believe that a public option would flip Willa's opinion, or anyone else who criticizes the ACA. So we're back at the same point - the very real, very helpful ACA that exists, and the very hypothetical, very nonexistent UHC that couldashouldawoulda. UHC wouldn't have passed the Senate that existed in 2010, and I don't believe that anything better than the ACA would have been passed in the last ten years. And those things that Willa pointed to, the single payer and the price controls, haven't been passed either. ACA is a thousand times better than what existed before, and that's the only honest metric on which you can judge its success.
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Bishyaler posted:Yes, its a self-fulfilling prophecy. UHC was never possible because Democrats actively fight against it. Also the ACA did nothing to slow or stop increasing rates and patient responsibility. It does get credit in shaking people's faith in the government's ability to deliver healthcare though. Saying it's "a thousand times better" is a hilarious amount of hyperbole and partisan nonsense. Because that's the only conceivable way that you think that the millions objectively helped by the ACA must be partisan hyperbole. People losing their job due to health issues that prevented them from working, and being denied insurance due to their condition, and ultimately being ruined by the catastrophic event - that happened all the time. And that's if you were the sort of person who had a job that offered health insurance. If you were someone who worked in an industry that didn't offer health insurance, but earned too much to qualify for Medicaid, the Obamacare exchanges were a godsend. I personally was able to afford insurance due to the ACA.
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Hold on - are telling me you literally don't believe that better things are possible? Well, cool, glad you admit that Obamacare is the best solution, despite the many acknowledged flaws. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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