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Paladin feels great. Was worried it would feel 'low damage' but it hasn't at all, at least in the first 20 levels or so. I guess i'll see later if this holds. From playing on the class tester, Warlord/Gunlancer (wtf :s) ...i don't really like his skills which is a shame. Really like that wrinkle slider. Was able to make a more older looking warrior (yay represantation?) I thought i'd be locked in to EU servers but seems i can create characters on US East servers too? Nice...going to try later to see how the latency feels. EU chat is ... EU chat. Turns out wonderful things happen when you have Portuguese, Spanish, German, French, English and Others all on the same chat. Going to play around on the class tester after i sleep and check out the other classes, interested to see how the Infighter (forget the western name), Summoner and Bard feel like.
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Jun 12, 2021 06:23
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queeb posted:i grabbed a key now from here: Got it from here, thanks!
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Pankratos posted:Got it from here, thanks! Same. Keys are still available.
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The story and presentation is just about as bog-standard as you can get, but the combat is so good. It sounds and looks amazing even just fighting the little mooks at the start of the game.
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Jun 12, 2021 09:28
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It looks and feels good, but at least for the warrior the gameplay seems to just be slamming all your buttons on cooldown
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Jun 12, 2021 09:54
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Have Amazon said what their monetization plans are? Is it more than just a cosmetic cash shop in other regions?
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Bardeh posted:The story and presentation is just about as bog-standard as you can get, but the combat is so good. It sounds and looks amazing even just fighting the little mooks at the start of the game. This is sort of my experience too. It just feels like a very fluid version of every other ARPG i've played. I'm kind of worried that despite the combat feeling pretty good, it isn't distinctive enough to hold me long term, but on the other hand i'm only in the first couple of levels post-prologue so maybe it gets more interesting.
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By the way, here's Saintone's LA guide ... it has lots of great info : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oci4R6IkwiQoVhGH8IHwFIS33dVS7hQv2Z-sljRrmcE/edit
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Chalks posted:Have Amazon said what their monetization plans are? Is it more than just a cosmetic cash shop in other regions? They are being mostly quiet about it and not specific for now.
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Played through a bit more and i'm seeing the specific appeal. Hard dungeons are generally just hard enough to make things interesting, though no moreso than that. Dealing with my usual problem of screwing around too much to just get to the point, though fighting Rudric (early graveyard World Boss) was fun just to see what things look like in a maximum chaos situation.
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Jun 12, 2021 16:51
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Steam users are being extremely positive on this game, which is a huge surprise to me, and a good sign that things are heading in the right direction. Although that will change quickly depending on what happens with the cash shop.
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Jun 12, 2021 17:01
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i was gonna do artillerist but deadeye is cool as gently caress swapping guns around and poo poo.
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Jun 12, 2021 17:13
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lmao berzerker and paladin are both amazing.
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Jun 12, 2021 18:33
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Saintone's opinion of the founder packs items : https://pastebin.com/njqzeJL4quote:1. 3 day headstart - This is an issue if it happens before weekly reset and a big advantage (Wednesday 6 AM local server time). This is not an issue if the headstart occurs after that because of the weekly lockout on high end raid.
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Jun 12, 2021 18:33
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Jossar posted:Played through a bit more and i'm seeing the specific appeal. Hard dungeons are generally just hard enough to make things interesting, though no moreso than that. I think the biggest problem is the dumb leveling chests with the overpowered weapons. They put these into the game in Korea / Russia after the game had been out a while to help people level their alts quicker. It makes your character op compared to the content because you do so much damage. If you use the weapons that they give you from quests the game is actually a bit more difficult, and hard dungeons you have to pay attention and use a lot of potions.
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Frustrated posted:I think the biggest problem is the dumb leveling chests with the overpowered weapons. They put these into the game in Korea / Russia after the game had been out a while to help people level their alts quicker. It makes your character op compared to the content because you do so much damage. If you use the weapons that they give you from quests the game is actually a bit more difficult, and hard dungeons you have to pay attention and use a lot of potions. I feel like even with the leveling chests I'm hitting this point at around level 19-20 or so anyway. Or maybe I just went through a really nasty end of act dungeon which sort of served as a rude awakening.
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Jossar posted:I feel like even with the leveling chests I'm hitting this point at around level 19-20 or so anyway. Or maybe I just went through a really nasty end of act dungeon which sort of served as a rude awakening. Did you do the Aztec style dungeon? That was the first one I remember being even remotely difficult when playing on the RU server. It was the first one bosses had real mechanics and could burst you down.
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Jun 12, 2021 19:32
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gunslinger seems op it kills everything including bosses and rares in like 2 skills
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Jun 12, 2021 19:58
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At level 30 we unlock a better training room (like the one where we test specs at start) where we can use all skillpoints and poo poo. Pretty good to see how classes will really feel. edit: currently leveling a Bard. She feels loving amazing to play. Funny how both 'support' classes are the ones that seem to flow better for me.
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madstrike posted:At level 30 we unlock a better training room (like the one where we test specs at start) where we can use all skillpoints and poo poo. Pretty good to see how classes will really feel. what is the other support class?
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queeb posted:paladin ah ok also just killed some world boss. boy that took forever, people kept running when they had aggro and resetting it.
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Jun 12, 2021 20:56
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Do any of the other classes have as much burst as gunslinger? I wanna try another one but I’m spoiled
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Tabletops posted:Do any of the other classes have as much burst as gunslinger? I wanna try another one but I’m spoiled The Artillerist is a delayed burst class, since you can do a lot of damage but it requires a bunch of setup from the majority of your other skills to pull off. Also an inherent time delay on some of the biggest hitters. I've been pretty happy with it in isolation, but I also can't help but feel like i'm somehow very middle of the road for performance whenever I see somebody else. So I guess my answer is "I'm not sure if anything has quite as much burst as the Gunslinger, which is designed to be among the highest in that regard at the cost of a high skill ceiling, but Artillerist gets the job done, if you can get used to the playstyle." Also, hit level 30 and I don't see that the training room got any better? Might be locked behind 50, unless i'm reading the buttons wrong. EDIT: Turns out the special training ground does exist, you just have to keep following the plot for it. Jossar fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Jun 13, 2021 03:03
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The alpha feels insanely polished so far, I'm having a blast.
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fadam posted:The alpha feels insanely polished so far, I'm having a blast. Well, it is a game that's been out for a few years.  But yeah this probably has the most satisfying ARPG combat since D3 and maybe even surpasses it on a handful of classes.
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Orv posted:Well, it is a game that's been out for a few years. Fair! But I was expecting tons of unplayable lag, and that didn't happen at all. The people at Amazon Game Studio that are managing this release, seem to really care about Lost Ark and making sure it has a smooth launch. Their community manager on the Steam forums is very dedicated to answering posts.
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I said come in! posted:Fair! But I was expecting tons of unplayable lag, and that didn't happen at all. The people at Amazon Game Studio that are managing this release, seem to really care about Lost Ark and making sure it has a smooth launch. Their community manager on the Steam forums is very dedicated to answering posts. They probably like it a lot better than their last job of defending amazon's bathroom policy on twitter.
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I don't understand why we need to wait for so long for the actual release. The only issue I have is that the subtitles very rarely match the voice acting, which is quite odd. Apart from that I can't see why it's not ready to go right now.
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Bardeh posted:I don't understand why we need to wait for so long for the actual release. The only issue I have is that the subtitles very rarely match the voice acting, which is quite odd. Apart from that I can't see why it's not ready to go right now. Yeah, if it was like 1 or 2 months wait, I can understand that, but i'm scratching my head why we are waiting until this fall. I guess they don't want it to interfere with New World.
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I have done a 180 on the warlord/gunlancer and i'm enjoying it now. Doing more damage than the supports helps a lot too, i guess. edit: not having a nice movement skill ability while leveling loving sucks tho. madstrike fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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I said come in! posted:Yeah, if it was like 1 or 2 months wait, I can understand that, but i'm scratching my head why we are waiting until this fall. I guess they don't want it to interfere with New World. 2 months would put it in august, which is basically there.
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I said come in! posted:Yeah, if it was like 1 or 2 months wait, I can understand that, but i'm scratching my head why we are waiting until this fall. I guess they don't want it to interfere with New World. This summer is already packed with major/not so major MMO releases. Burning Crusade Classic: Just Released ESO Expansion: Just Released Crowfall (lol?): July 7 WoW Retail Content Patch: Somewhere in here? (would guess it will be used to boost retention for the TBC Classic post-launch lull or hit a couple weeks before New World to compete with them) New World: August 31 FFXIV Expansion: November End of September just seems like the earliest logical time. (And as an aside, ESO trying to compete with TBC classic seems insane to me, if you remember what Path of Exile's numbers looked like when they did a league on top of WoW Classic's release.)
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:2 months would put it in august, which is basically there. ooh sheesh this year has gone by fast.
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You can only delete 1 character per day, whoops. Good thing we can play on 2 regions this alpha, been testing all these classes so i got almost all slots filled. Despite saying i was going to skip the alpha, i've been playing it a lot and seeing how i like the classes i wanted to try.
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Opposite approach here, trying to take one class as far as I can go, so when the actual game comes out I can just bum rush everything in the most optimal manner possible without worrying about actually reading the story and the like. Just hit level 50 and thinking that since this is the point where i'd usually settle down and build the character's strength, i'll instead go and try out some other classes after finishing the current story arc.
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I'm...kind of disappointed so far? I've been following this from the beginning but now that I'm playing it just seems like...an extremely linear and not-very-strategic game. Other than the level of polish it absolutely nails, it feels no different than any other top-down eastern MMO. I don't want to poo poo on it because clearly it's hitting a sweet spot for many; maybe I need to try out multiplayer to really 'get it'? I was so excited and it just doesn't feel that..interesting.
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To be honest, I can't really say it does anything different. It's just as someone who likes ARPGs and KMMOs, everything it does is done very competently in a way that's just complex enough to be interesting but not enough so to be frustrating. I guess the counter examples that most immediately pop up in my head are Black Desert Online and Path of Exile, which are very good at what they do, but I kept bouncing off of because they either didn't hit quite the same levers or seemed like their endgame was going to be too intimidating. Jossar fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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