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I think Final Fantasy 14 might own, friends. 
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I'm a dumb dumb and just realized Elidibus was doing all the moves from the classes during the trial. Brilliant
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Aug 12, 2020 09:48
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm disappointed that there's never a dialogue option to call him Raha. I guess the WOL likes to keep things formal. WoL see's how thirsty he is for them and doesn't want to encourage it.
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Aug 12, 2020 18:28
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ImpAtom posted:The WoL basically ended the expansion running hand in hand with him and giggling. Alisaie's actual reason for discontent becomes clear, stemming not from not getting any new outfits but that G'raha Tia muscling in on her turf of staring starry eyed at the WoL.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:16
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Waffleman_ posted:Meanwhile my WoL was getting flustered when she saw that Y'shtola smiles as she threatens to take her over her knee
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Aug 13, 2020 03:50
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Terper posted:We'll get the option during our wedding. It'll be cold comfort for him when we're up at the alter with Y'shtola 
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Aug 13, 2020 19:12
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So is like Elidibus' soul just chilling in the Crystal Tower forever? I'm not sure how cool i am with that especially since it's somewhat ambiguous if he was a kid and the last moments we saw him was weeping for all those he lost and failed. They were all monstrous and had to die but I dunno if want to consign him to eternity bound to a tower. Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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Aug 13, 2020 20:48
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So correct me if I'm wrong but killing an Ascian means basically busting them up and sending them to the life stream, which is why I was concerned with Elidibus because it seemed like just sticking him in a box forever and not killing him. Thematically, never dying and living forever seemed to be part of what made the Unsundered so awful
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Aug 13, 2020 21:00
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Yeah, I guess that's what I meant. Did we smash up Elidibus' soul or did we just stick him in a Crystal Tower pokeball? Sundering him and putting his echos into the life stream like all the other souls is something I'm good with but the other is oof I dunno. G'Raha Tia shouting about "now I have your soul!" gets a whole different connotation.
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Aug 13, 2020 21:11
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Wait, we clutched Azem's crystal and wished upon it with all our hear lol if we made a Emet Selch primal to save us.
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Aug 13, 2020 21:29
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hobbesmaster posted:Why couldn't he use living dead. He does!
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Aug 17, 2020 17:13
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erenoyo posted:The "Elidibus is a child" theory doesn't really convince me for one reason: why would a sitting member of the council of leadership for their society be a child? I think people are just reading too much into that he appeared small at the end. He never acts childish -- his black and white worldview is a result of him being a primal, not a kid Alphinaud Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 17, 2020 |
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Aug 17, 2020 21:02
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If you don't like Mini Y'shtola I'll fight you right now Just look at her!!!  All shall love her and despair
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Aug 17, 2020 21:20
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What I want is for Feo Ul to get really loving bored with being King and just constantly loving off to the Source to follow the WoL around making commentary filling in for Midgardsormr but jealous and Scottish
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Aug 18, 2020 20:28
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Cythereal posted:Thancred was pure soul on the First, he technically didn't have a material body. So not sure that would have worked. I've got a book for you that might be educational. It's called THE BIBLE GET YOURSELF TO CHURCH
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Aug 22, 2020 19:25
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I miss Midgardsormr 
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Aug 25, 2020 08:12
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SirSamVimes posted:he has earned his nap He was napping for fifteen years! Just want to have him and Feo Ul to dramatically appear to poo poo talk me like my own fantasy royal Statler and Waldorf Jetrauben posted:To be fair, I'm not actually entirely sure that's true. Emet seem to have had a very indecisive attitude towards his nation-states; whether it's just because of the scope of time involved in the span between "prosperous empire" and "dissolving catastrophe engine" he seems to have taken pains to build empires he found at least somewhat personally appealing. For example, in his guise as Solus, encouraging the arts and creativity in Garlemald doesn't exactly suit its fascistic purposes. If nothing else, since Emet presumably perceives time like a Spoken and not a dragon, he doesn't exactly go into centuries-long naps, so he's gotta spend time in the places he builds. Going to plays while you're sitting around waiting for your engineered evil empire to commit crimes while blowing up planetary populations doesn't exactly halt the boot stomping on the human face forever behaviors you set them up to do. Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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Aug 25, 2020 19:13
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I DIDNT KNOW I WANTED THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING UNTIL JUST NOW Mordiceius posted:I think the thing that I absolutely love about the FFXIV story (and specifically Shadowbringers) is how much Zodiark has been recontexualized from "he's a big evil god." Because he's not a big evil god. He is a primal summoned to save the world. And he did just that. Primals are summoned when people are praying desperately for salvation and Crystal Mama doesn't happen if Zodiark is just chilling after everything is fine Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Mulva posted:Zodiark didn't actually do poo poo. And as of the newest story, he didn't call for poo poo to be done either. The first words from the heart of Zodiark after his creation, when they were deciding if they should sacrifice all the lower life forms? "Fear...not... You will make...the right choice. And I will see it through.". That's not big evil god talk. Nor is it a call for soooooooouls! On no level that we've been presented was Zodiark ever an antagonistic force. The Convocation, sure, not great if you are a lesser being. Zodiark is exactly what it was created to be: The will of the star, that could save people from oblivion. Then what was the purpose of creating a primal to kill another primal if everything was fine? Moderate dissatisfaction isn't enough emotion to do the deed especially for one powerful enough to sunder Zodiark.
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Sep 14, 2020 08:55
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cheetah7071 posted:I keep calling her asking to fight and she doesn't pick up Line's busy, she's leaving voice mails on Magnai's linkperl where she's just shouting "little sun!" over and over
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Sep 14, 2020 21:07
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It's not final fantasy until we kill our dad then god
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Sep 15, 2020 03:45
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SirSamVimes posted:Also the new Astral Era is spearheaded by the Ironworks and guided by Midgardsormir does that mean high tech dragon society? Tiamat ends her period of mourning, becomes queen of the world. Everybody dances.
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Sep 18, 2020 02:09
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jokes posted:Typical Dad poo poo, lol. When he lets you gently caress up and, only when it's absolutely necessary, he steps in (Omega cutscene). Dragon Dad is awesome. Come back soon 
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Sep 21, 2020 06:59
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Jetrauben posted:G'raha is, himself, a very smol hero. https://clips.twitch.tv/BashfulCoweringTildeTBCheesePull
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Sep 25, 2020 18:30
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Can't wait till the twins overthrow poo poo dad and make Krile Queen of the Nerds in Sharlayan
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May 15, 2021 22:46
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Pyronic posted:Ahem. No way Tataru wants to rule an island of Alphinauds
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May 15, 2021 23:27
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Bruceski posted:Estinien's been so fun for the path of the Dragoon. Originally they fought alongside dragons. Then the war started and they were trained to fight dragons. Then he gets possessed/corrupted by a dragon, and now he's fighting alongside dragons again. They even have a babby dragon in the Dragoon story line that could hang out with the WoL and murder stuff with.
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May 16, 2021 03:47
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the_steve posted:I think the Sharlayans are just the sort of elitist douchebags who look at the calamities going on and think "Yeah, well we're better than them. As long as we survive, nothing of value will be lost So Sharlayan is our Amaurot
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May 16, 2021 04:53
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Raelle posted:We always see stories of long-lost, ancient civilizations that "fell to their own hubris," so it always bewilders me when I see people want to reduce Shadowbringers' much more nuanced take to the same old thing. Amaurot was as effective as it was because it, refreshingly and convincingly, went out of its way to mostly paint its residents as innocent victims and well-meaning people. Like, there's an entire quest explaining that their creation magic is something in-born and natural to them to the point that even babies can do it. Blaming them for something like that is and would be really hosed up. Emet's grief isn't outlined as misguided, it's underscored as justified. The Amaurotines deserved to live. We deny them that because the people of the fragments also have a right to live, and their existence and ours is a zero-sum game. That's why it hits so hard. That's why Emet points out that the victor of your fight will be the hero and the loser will be the villain, whatever happens. That's why, by killing him and the last hopes of Amaurot, "you have done a great and terrible thing." They did kinda let the rest of the world burn and didn't find them worth saving until Amaurot was in danger. Amaurot's people not just the Ascians. They didn't deserve to be wiped out but they collectively as a people decided the rest of the world getting hosed wasn't their problem and it bit them in the rear end.
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May 18, 2021 03:27
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Waffleman_ posted:Hm, sounds familiar. That makes Louisoix the Azem! Motherfucker wanted to save the world so his grandkids could have grapes.
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May 18, 2021 03:37
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Doublestep posted:The Sound emanated from the center of the planet, affecting the entirety of it at the same time. There were political differences between Amaurot and the rest of the world, but it had nothing to do with the Final Days. Hythlodeus says the Sound started but it ramped up not that everything went bonkers.
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May 18, 2021 03:47
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Raelle posted:This is another thing I see repeated constantly, that I'm not sure where people get it from. Yes, there's the quest with the debate between two random civilians, but that's what it was: a debate to pass the time and help the player understand the overall situation for the Ancients. Otherwise, we hear about them dispatching research teams to capture some of the End of Days monsters, working on counter-measures in the form of the Guardian Forces, and we hear from the streets people talking about the Convocation debating fiercely on how to fix the problem to the point of describing the vagaries of the Zodiark plan. They didn't actually care about the subject it was an rhetorical exercise about what to do they were just arguing for fun as that was what that one person liked to do and was literally walking around town trying to get people to debate him like that meme of the guy in the chair with the sign. Azem was viewed as a giant weirdo for actually going out and seeing the world and helping people not of Amarout.
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May 18, 2021 04:03
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Raelle posted:Yes, so you agree that the quest is about two random people who have little to no actual say in the matter, one of whom just likes to debate, rather than reflection of something that "they as a people collectively decided?" The fact two randos were having an intellectual debate about actual bad things happening in the world as some sort of lark, neither of which really took the topic as something serious to care about other than as a position, says something about what the people of Amarout value in the places that are not Amarout. As much as the Convocation gave Azem the job of finding problems and fixing them, it's noted them being so stuffy and detached from the world and suprised Azem actually did their job is why Emet and Hythlodeus liked Azem in the first place
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Our farm is on the land no contest sorry moon!YES bread posted:no it doesn't. engaging in debate about real world topics because you love debate is not a sign of sociatal-wide moral failing no matter how hard you stretch Uh if it's during the Final Days and they're talking about the rest of the planet getting mulched up it kinda has a different context to a normal academic discourse. Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 04:44 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 04:41
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Raelle posted:Source your quotes, please! I misremembered, it was Hythlodeus and Elidibus in Tales from the Shadows quote:As everyone knew, concepts were stored in the Bureau of the Architect, and not all could be readily removed for personal use. The chief of the bureau, however, could grant access as he pleased. quote:Blissfully ignorant of my misgivings, the young man smiled to himself again, and bade me farewell. As he wandered away, I swore I heard him murmur something about Azem's "ever refreshing perspective." Doublestep posted:but its not. its in a facsimile of amaurot created by emet selch where everything is relatively normal Isn't it supposed to be a snapshot right before the Convocation decides to do the Zodiark plan?
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May 18, 2021 05:01
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Come back daddy Middy, we need you for the end times
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May 19, 2021 19:46
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Veev posted:.... keep skanking.
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May 20, 2021 04:47
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hazardousmouse posted:He's dicking around cause that's how he gets our attention. Poor dude is so busted he literally doesn't know any other way of getting us to come over other than committing atrocities Are we talking about Zenos or Moofia?
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May 26, 2021 19:22
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Eimi posted:I am ready to serve, again. Even in Death Unto Dawn I still surf
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Not to start an argument but why do people use spoiler tags in the spoiler thread? I thought that was the entire purpose of the thread?
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