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I think we're going to meet The Mother and she's going to have a strong opinion about Forchenault disowning her kids
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Emet-Selch was Amon, so he was secretly controlling the Allagan Empire for at least part of its history, too
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multijoe posted:[Citation needed] 1) Lord Amon is the one who shut down Allagan research on curing tempering 2) Amon in the tower triggers some of his attacks by doing the finger snap 3) Emet brags to G'raha about how he shaped Allagan civilization and knows everything the tower can do it's him, who else would be a big theater wizard
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Sep 25, 2021 18:46
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I assume we'll eventually see if the tempering cure works on an Ascian. Welcome to your 12,000 years of regrets
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Sep 26, 2021 05:51
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Wouldn't the ruins of ancient Amourot be under the ocean there on the Source, too?
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Sep 26, 2021 17:57
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:They address that in Shadowbringers. I must have missed that line, but still, might be worth taking a look. And if anyone has found those ruins, it'd be Sharlayan.
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Sep 26, 2021 18:09
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Venat's mind and memory may be swiss cheese just like Elidibus at this point.
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Sep 27, 2021 07:38
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Azem abdicated their position on the convocation, then refused to have anything to do with Venat's faction. I can't imagine that's not a very serious form of protest at the least. I just want to point out they didn't say she refused. They say she didn't reply. There are other reasons someone might not be able to communicate.
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Sep 27, 2021 18:30
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Another thing is that we're all assuming "the defector" refers to Azem, and I think that's correct, but not using a name there gives the writer an out for a twist
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Sep 27, 2021 19:07
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GoingPostal posted:I think it's a chunk of Dalamud that went sideways, rather than down, when Bahamut broke out. If anyone could get there for space travel, though, the Garleans are my odds on shot. We don't really know if the aethersphere? stops at a certain point or not. Eorzea might not be able to fly past there, since all their ships are aether powered. If you can breathe on the surface of the moon I'm pretty sure magic works there
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Oct 1, 2021 13:41
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the_steve posted:The Blessing of the Kami extends to the Lunar Sea. It would be very funny if the blessing turns out to be "breathe anywhere" instead of "breathe underwater" and the Kojin just never had a chance or reason to try it anywhere else.
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Oct 1, 2021 15:25
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I liked the more abstract sin eaters. The rearranging wall of faces, Whimsy, was very Evangelion
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Oct 4, 2021 04:37
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Is there a lore explanation for how linkshells work? The in-ear phone we have. It's obviously some sort of magic yet it's susceptible to eavesdropping and jamming.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:39
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I've always taken Warrior through the solo msq stuff and used Summoner for the dungeons and trials, I will probably continue that.
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Oct 13, 2021 04:08
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the part of new Summoner that confuses me is why tri-disaster still exists
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Oct 13, 2021 06:35
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I should be able to glamour the primal summons into gigantic carbuncles
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Oct 14, 2021 06:14
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Emet and the other Convocation members were also tempered by the primal they summoned. I assume this happened almost immediately after, and I'm guessing it wasn't part of their plan, was it?
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Oct 19, 2021 08:07
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I like the theory that Emet and Lahabrea survived the sundering by being on the moon when it happened. The dialogue in Amaurot implies that the ancients fought and defeated the first beasts. They just couldn't defeat the final beast without a "decisive sacrifice." But they tried. Maybe those two were the designated survivors in case the summoning failed?
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Oct 20, 2021 19:07
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Well that structure on the moon in the trailer looks like it was built by the Ancients. It might pre-date the Final Days? We'll find out. And the crashed spacecraft looked Allagan, but perhaps they attempted a moon landing and got shot down.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:15
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a cartoon duck posted:i've watched enough animes that i can say with confidence both zodiark and hydaelin will sacrifice themselves to power up the wol to let them access their true form to beat up the final days yeah I'm going with this. We're playing an interactive anime and this is the anime ending we're going to end this by punching Big Noise in the face with the full power of creation
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Oct 21, 2021 04:27
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I just don't believe the first sacrifice of 50% of the population was completely voluntary. Hell, we know the name of someone who refused to go along with it, and while Azem may have been a better person that the rest of the Convocation, that's a pretty low bar. It's voluntary but all 13 people who came up with the plan conveniently volunteered to live? Come on. Those fuckers killed half their population to save the other half and then the survivors who were tempered by the primal agreed it was all for the greater good.
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Oct 21, 2021 05:39
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Amaurot is Star Trek's Federation in city form. It's a post scarcity utopia for people who live there, but if their stuffy rules and slow lifestyle don't appeal to you, you either have to conform or get out. People living on the fringes have a different view of utopia. And if you're outside their sphere and you need help, don't bother asking, they're not going to give you anything.
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Oct 21, 2021 15:23
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My own guess/theory is that the WoL is an artificial soul, a being constructed by Hydaelyn/Venat. Hydaelyn was getting weaker, the Ascians were getting bolder, a second calamity was coming just years after the last so they fished Azem's soul out of the lifestream and padded it with bits of the souls of past warriors of light to make a complete person. Then you wake up on a carriage or ship headed for the city with no past and nothing but a strong instinct to help people.
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Oct 21, 2021 21:21
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I interpreted it as, Emet was such a planner and a plotter and a schemer that he even planned for the possibility that he was wrong and you were worthy. But it takes souls some time to dissolve into the lifestream, presumably longer the denser they are, so it makes sense that he was watching and still had just enough self left to help.
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Oct 22, 2021 19:04
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Will we finally get to see Thal's balls?
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Oct 23, 2021 04:09
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https://twitter.com/VENTEAS_/status/1440330665258479618
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Nov 2, 2021 16:31
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We're going to find and make friends with the one voidsent that just has a strong compulsion to help other voidsent with their problems
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Nov 2, 2021 18:59
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Can you un-temper an Ascian if you throw enough aether at the pig?
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Nov 2, 2021 19:30
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Presumably, but the only three tempered Ascians are dead. And it would probably be ingenuous to call Elidibus tempered. Are you sure only those three were tempered? Because the very last scene of 2.0 is a whole room full of them going on about their one true god Zodiark
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Nov 2, 2021 20:57
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Right, but if you're one of the unsundered assholes in charge, the first thing you're going to do with a new hire is induct them into the Zodiark fan club.
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Nov 2, 2021 21:08
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The unsundered can't temper them, and Zodiark is unavailable at the moment. Elidibus was some sort of weird primal, though. Wouldn't that be part of his job?
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Nov 2, 2021 21:50
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Maybe. I don't know how it would work, but we definitely see other Ascians talking about their one true god, and that's usually the game's tell that someone is tempered. I can believe there are individuals like Fandaniel it didn't work on, but someone who is doing it for money or just faking it would be a potential liability.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:26
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I would assume the various races that were all somehow created by the sundering are soul-compatible
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Nov 4, 2021 05:22
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I think Thancred and Urianger will get some sort of buddy blaze-of-glory moment that ends with one of them getting killed. Probably Thancred, since Urianger is the quest-giver for a ton of trials and stuff and that's probably a pain the rear end for them to change. I think Y'shtola will get the fakeout death again, I think using her life force to see will catch up and incapacitate her at a critical moment and the end of her arc is accepting being blind. I don't think we'll fight Hydaelyn but I don't think it or Zodiark will still exist at the end. They'll end up merged with each other or so drained we absorb them or something.
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Nov 5, 2021 01:31
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Anything that looks technological and mean probably looks Garlean to your average Eorzean soldier
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Nov 5, 2021 18:19
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Macaluso posted:I think it's extremely likely we get killed, and then brought back to life with the power of friendship or whatever. I think the WoL sacrificing themselves to save a character/the world would be dope but obviously you can't kill off the player character so they'll be brought back by some kind of magic it's called mastering the echo
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Nov 6, 2021 19:32
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Oh let's see how many things I can be wrong about. 1 - Who/what is the final boss of Endwalker? The Sound or the creator of The Sound. Which is in... 2 - What is the final zone of Endwalker? Trial in Hell. The Underworld. Like an anti-lifestream where souls too corrupted to reincarnate get stuck. 3 - What is the final 4-man dungeon of Endwalker MSQ? Pathway to the above, probably deep under Lake Silvertear. 4 - Will there be any death fakeouts, if so, who? The twins early on, and you, the WoL, near the end. 5 - Will any of the Scions actually die? I'm going to say Thancred and Urianger since I think their stories are done. 6 - What is the biggest unexpected lorebomb? Purple Crystal... good? Or at least not evil in any conventional sense. 7 - Is there a tease of where the story goes from here, if so, what is it? I don't think 6.0 itself will end with a tease of future story, that will come starting with 6.1. But I think 7.0 will be us teaching the Echo-havers how to hop between shards and taking a team to enlighten the 13th like the role quests teased.
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Nov 7, 2021 06:54
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It would make sense if the holes in Fandaniel's incomplete/broken personality filled in with
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Nov 7, 2021 17:45
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Waffleman_ posted:Radz-at-Han also has a treaty going with Garlemald, which might make it a good piece of neutral ground to hang out in and plan an incursion. They had a treaty, but that tower is an overtly hostile act that they surely blame the Empire for. The plot line of us going there could be as simple as, if we help them with this right now they may switch sides
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It might be something like you can't be tempered if your aether is denser/stronger than the being trying to do the tempering? So pre-sundering Zodiark could temper Ancients but post-sundering it might not have the power. And the WoL can no sell poo poo primals like Ifrit because we're a big walking aether battery
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