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hi hello I am placeholding this OP I guess with my post from the pop thread, since it's a quick n dirty summary already:esperterra posted:The quickest primer on kpop history is that popular Korean music was mostly trot and ballads until artists like Seo Taiji and the Boys and JYP showed up in the 90s with sounds inspired by American hip hop and pop music. From there you see the first generation of kpop as we know it today starting and really blowing up with the formations of SM Ent, JYP Ent and YG Ent. Lee Soo Man of SM in particular was the one who took a lesson from Motown and implemented the idol trainee system that basically every company uses to this day for its groups and soloists; as well as a rise in bringing over Western songwriters and producers to work on tracks. Then you get artists like BoA expanding Korean pop music into Japan and the rest of Asia (and even a brief stint in the US for BoA, though actively promoting her in three different countries at once was a bit much and they backed off on it pretty quickly to focus on Korea and Japan when she didn't blow up immediately) for the first time and opening up doors for everyone who followed her.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 20:19 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 15:44 |
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idk prob gna use this for either debuts or influential songs from well known 1st/2nd/3rd gen artists or smth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRq1cuz7rk placeholder fany
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 20:21 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrsBjYukE8s JYP just released a duet with Sunmi and it owns thx
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 20:26 |
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bovis posted:Yeah this is pure cheese but it's so good. I love how JYP can just roll with it and make a bit of a fool of himself. Song slaps and Sunmi is as great as ever JYP never disappoints, especially when he leans into just embracing the fact that he's more or less a walking meme at this point. Sometimes I feel like modern kpop takes itself too seriously too often, then JYP has a comeback and all is well with the world. I really love the emphasis on this being a duet and not a featuring, too. TV Zombie posted:I was reading through and was wondering where IU fit. Did she come out with the 2nd gens? IU debuted in I think '07 or '08, so 2nd gen.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 22:09 |
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bovis posted:This is my favourite track and video of the year so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujb-gvqsoi0 That whole mini album is so drat good.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2020 04:53 |
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Maria is an A+++ mini album And I am incredibly triggered your link is not embedded
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2020 04:57 |
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Without thinking too hard about it, all of HA:TFELT's 1719 is a masterpiece. Yubin's ME TIME, Sunmi's Pporappippam, and heckin Stay Tonight goddamn Chungha served so hard on that-- Play is great too though not as. Oh, and DESSERT. We all deserve it. Though I prefer Hyoyeon's song TURL she did with Cheetah for Good Girl of the stuff she's released this year, if we're including songs that aren't official comebacks. And if I include Good Girl then I Am Lee Young Ji would be very close to the top of any list I'd attempt to rank. I should look at an actual list of all of this year's comebacks and sort out what's what, but those would be at my top either way. Then probably Solar, Hwasa and I&S close behind. Taeyeon, too; Happy kinda slipped under the radar but is a very good song. Minzy finally had a comeback and it was amazing, though I wonder if people were expecting a harder hitting dance number from her than the chill rear end song we got. GWSN's Wonderboy, The Aerialist is a loving delight. Ryu Su Jeong had a solo debut and it slapped, Tiger Eyes has been in my playlist rotation since I first heard it on one of the music shows. There's been a lot of great comebacks this year, especially for GGs and soloists. Like Taemin's single that just dropped is so loving good-- though I'm hoping the next pre release for the album is going to be another iconic hoe anthem. Nobody does it better than Taemin. Man the past 2-3 months especially have been loving stacked tbh
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2020 05:41 |
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Vastakaiun posted:No idea what "Sukhumvit Swimming" means, but I really like this song. I caught this on one of the music shows this week and it was pretty catchy. I also have no idea what Sukhumvit Swimming means. There was another boy group adjacent thing I really liked too but I can't remember the dude's name, I think it was his solo debut or a solo comeback but he's a member of some group I definitely do not know the name of. I'll go back and look at the schedule later mb to jog my memory. While I'm at it, never heard of this group before but I really dug this BG jam from last month: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU5K0kqaAME Also SuperM dropped their first pre-release for the upcoming album this past week, and further proved Taemin can pull off literally anything a stylist throws at him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyzhtvtJWDQ
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2020 23:03 |
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Han Seung Woo! I really enjoyed his stage the other day. e: i'll prob add SF9 to my ever growing list of poo poo to check out. i usually stick to just male soloists these days, but I dig their vibe honestly I'm just waiting impatiently for the rest of Shinee currently in active service to gtfo so SM can hopefully squeeze a comeback out of them before Taemin has to enlist e2: speaking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UZRHi0kh3c This is so drat good. I really hope the next single is another hoe anthem, though. Nobody does it like Taemin. esperterra fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Aug 18, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 05:14 |
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Cavauro posted:i like pure cheese or heartbreak from kdrama OSTs
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2020 01:22 |
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SM's promo shots for Red Velvet's cover of Milky Way for the BoA cover album they've been trickling out all month had the first pic of Wendy since her accident, and they've since confirmed that she has recovered enough to participate in promotions so long as it isn't too hard on her body. I don't expect any dancing from her any time soon, but eyyy she's back. Perfect timing too b/c I just spent the past week finally digging into their discography. Also here are the covers they've done so far. Gallant's cover of Only One is something really loving special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddu8Lo4c4jU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcTTuM5pb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSn8ucXtuQc e: Thom and the Heads posted:I wish more of Blackpink's songs sounded like As If It's Your Last You might get your wish with this Selena Gomez collab, apparently it will be a 'more refreshing and lovable charm than their usual image', which at least has me curious. My main issue with BP is the lack of versatility, so if this leads into the album actually changing things up YG might get me to pay attention to them. esperterra fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Aug 19, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 19, 2020 06:15 |
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The Arrogant Dance is eternal. I've been rocking out to Abracadabra all day tbh. Sometimes the BEG mood just hits. e: the suggestive content is in the full M/V tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofwFr8o8p0Y
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2020 06:50 |
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guns, blurred out knife blades and legs kpop requirements tbh e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cgk3TMAjKU Hyolyn here to save the summer e2: oh god blessings aplenty. a sudden official release of Borderline?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMdGfmFNgE esperterra fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Aug 19, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 19, 2020 09:02 |
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I've come to the conclusion that Red Velvet has zero bad singles. That said Psycho is probably my least favourite.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 00:48 |
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I haven't dug into their JP singles yet so can't speak on Cookie Jar, but out of their Korean singles atm my favourite is either Peek-a-Boo, Automatic, Russian Roulette or their cover of SES' Be Natural. Also Zimzalabim owns and it is incredibly obvious the producers were inspired by I Got a Boy. Cavauro posted:the only ones i don't like are the Japanese ones and that seems to be a common thing among groups. Depends. Some of SNSD's best songs are their Japanese singles. SM's Japanese work for their groups is usually top notch in general tbh. Like Paparazzi loving slaps forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqP1xzRZkw
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 01:01 |
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bovis posted:Zimzalabim took a while to grow on me but now I agree it slaps. I can see the I Got a Boy comparisons now and that makes me appreciate it more to be honest! Yeah, RBB is with Psycho as one of my 'this song owns but is at the bottom of my list of Red Velvet singles'. Bad Boy however is up there with the four I mentioned earlier. Their harmonies are so loving good, and are a blessing in an era where I feel like GGs don't harmonize as often as they used to. You can always rely on SM for top tier vocals and exquisite harmonization. I need to finish digging through their b-sides before I form any real opinions on them, but so far everything I've listened to is loving QUALITY.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 02:14 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxZVxFGTQNU Oh hell yeahhhhhhh chill rear end vibes. Still like Gallant's cover of Only One the most but this is a very close second. Milky Way is such a good loving song. Good god we're mere days away from BoA's anniversary!!
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 10:04 |
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I'm only going to recommend two b/c otherwise I will go on about second gen girl groups for far too long than I have time to atm. I think tonight I might start populating that placeholder post on the first page with the debuts/important singles etc of older groups, and I'll probably start with GGs. Anyway, for Twice's contemporaries I cannot recommend Oh My Girl enough. They're one of the most exciting girl groups working rn imho and are all too talented for their own good. They're one of the strongest current groups vocally imho, up there with Mamamoo and RV, and YooA is one of the best dancers working rn too. Their main concept is typically a cuter one with a fairytale kind of spin, but they are super versatile especially once you dig into B-sides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udGwca1HBM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FY9VTlX-HI The version of Twilight, my fave of their b-sides, they performed for Queendom last year is just too loving good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8377YsRX4 Since you like When We Disco, you should dig into Wonder Girls imho. They're the first JYP girl group (Twice's company), and their concept is entirely retro with them playing around in a lot of different eras. Their lineup changed a few times but never to the group's detriment. Honestly their best album REBOOT (and one of the best pop albums period imho, kpop or otherwise) was when they were down to 4 members and came back as a band, with Sunmi having rejoined. Most of the members are songwriters and producers themselves, and early on were pretty involved with the production of their music, with REBOOT being almost entirely self composed! Fun fact: Sunmi's Siren was originally written for REBOOT, but was passed on for whatever reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBn1e9pr2Q The intro to this is super long b/c that's how JYP rolls, the song starts around 1:58 in lmao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxh3_sr5UAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fy4cqWMhyI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9QXQz6uE0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYGODWJgR-c srsly tho all of REBOOT is loving amazing have some of the b-sides, then go listen to the whole thing if you dig it Faded Love GONE One Black Night They are legends and icons for a reason, up there with SNSD. All of their solo careers are loving amazing as well, Yubin especially-- though she unfortunately has far less material than Sunmi or Ye-eun's solo stuff. But it is all exceptional and it's always been a drat shame she never blew up like Sunmi or even Ye-eun's work as HA:TFELT. Yubin keeps the retro vibe the strongest of them all, from pure city pop bliss through to low fi hip hop heaven featuring legend Yoon Mi-rae. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MiQonPvlVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiCDZYdPmys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M-GNLCPf2I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJD0arHF_5c I'm always disappointed she gets so much less attention compared to Sunmi. I know I said I was only gna recommend two but goddamnit more people need to realize how amazing Yubin is. The b-sides are also all loving quality. I really hope we get a full album out of her soon-- boss bitch been busy as she not only had a comeback this year, but also has followed in the steps of JYP himself and started her own entertainment agency. esperterra fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 23:40 |
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Happy BoA day!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAjn3ssMzI
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2020 08:48 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRXZj0DzXIA
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2020 05:01 |
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More importantly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uliNs_hPU_M
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2020 10:19 |
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In the reverse of everyone else's reactions, I liked it immediately but haven't gone back to it much. I still like Sour Candy more but Ice Cream somehow manages to slap and be chill at the same time. It's got a super good vibe. Lisa's raps are becoming increasingly ridiculous tho
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2020 19:25 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeXRgJprF8s ffs yg give dara some goddamn music to sing she sounds amazing in tyool 2020
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2020 22:09 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUsUzbmSLow
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2020 05:01 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JMSOj46tY SET THEM ON FIRE
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 06:25 |
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Elucidarius posted:Whoa that's weird I was JUST thinking "Maaaan I wish I had more CL". I'm hyped the gently caress up for this comeback, super curious to see if it'll be a mostly US or Korean promotion considering she's been based out of LA for a few years now. Either way, it'll be her first real comeback since getting free of YG-- I'm not really counting the mix tape she dropped at the end of last year if only b/c it was all songs she wrote while still at YG that they wouldn't let her release. God that EP is one of the best albums period in a long rear end time tho. Can't wait to see what she gives us next. I hope she goes hard again-- I need something like Baddest Female, MTBD or Hello Bitches in my life right now. I wonder if it'll be a full album or what. God what a fuckin serve tho 'I go by the name of, you already know'. The queen is loving baaaack. e: any excuse to post this tbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ6xU7SSEn4 esperterra fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Sep 2, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 2, 2020 18:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mo_gPeh25k esperterra fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Sep 4, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 3, 2020 05:37 |
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I've never listened to Monsta X, so I have no idea what Wonho's vibe was when he was still with them. But I really dig this, I'll def check out the rest of the mini. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFS-V_iCiM also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU4A9iNkeEg
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 05:23 |
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Jackson's got a new song out, too. His solo stuff can be really hit or miss for me but I appreciate the variety of music he puts out. This poo poo is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EjxIQXBhlc Also good god it's almost time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8DEmtUV9Vw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc6o2GoQPrQ esperterra fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Sep 4, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 19:42 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTUEHTeYDg4
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2020 05:25 |
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aww yee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQL7BS6lrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAOOKbk-knM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en4BDQgflG0 e: good lord how tf does taemin top himself every time he releases a single esperterra fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Sep 7, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 7, 2020 10:03 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5BM-NjG8CA
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2020 05:31 |
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The BP documentary is supposed to cover from pre-debut up to the recording of the upcoming album, I think. Curious if it will include any of the trainees who were also supposed to make it into Blackpink before it was pared down to a four member group. Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjKMBQZBMM
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 05:13 |
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Blackpink has released far less content than the typical idol group does and that does not only apply to their music, but the usual extra stuff companies throw out there to better endear fans to the idols. It's entirely possible a lot of this footage is stuff that was meant to use elsewhere. Plus pre-debut stuff is often filmed at every company even if it's never officially released to the public, just by virtue of needing to record a trainees progress so people not there during the evaluations and such can still see it/etc. For all we know BP was originally supposed to have a reality show like 2NE1TV and it got scrapped, and footage could come from that. Or leftover content from the little bit of online show type stuff that Blackpink has done in their career. So who knows how much if any of this content was filmed just for the Netflix documentary, though I think there's been rumblings off a documentary for a while so mb the past year or so? they've been filming stuff specifically for it. I imagine a lot of the footage will be from YG themselves and then w/e the framing device/connective tissue for the docu may be to be from whoever is behind making it. e: and speaking of documentaries, MBC's documentary about Sulli is dropping soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJcW65gO2A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCQ0RPTYXd8 sry no subs on these trailers atm esperterra fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Sep 9, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 05:30 |
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TV Zombie posted:I didn't know that they were scheduled to have a reality show for them and am curious as to why that variety/reality show got scrapped. read my post again lmao Sulli documentary will get subbed for sure, whether it ends up on Viki/Kocowa or a fan group gets to it. I just hope it gets subbed in good time.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 05:55 |
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Girl Crush is an OST song smh !!
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 06:09 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuqTt69LY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBuvtmMfdN8 esperterra fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Sep 10, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 10:42 |
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'scuse me while i use this as yet another excuse to point out how much yubin's solo career owns with a video i know i've posted here already!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MiQonPvlVM also yeah yukika loving owns. neon is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67jSYCSrnE4
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 02:31 |
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screaden posted:This guy also does some of my favourite mixes, and has just put out a couple of 90's AOR/City Pop themed ones that are fantstic. oh helll yeah
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 06:29 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 15:44 |
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my body is not ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voreBU1841U e: aww yee. full singles and an album next month btw esperterra fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Sep 14, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 04:59 |