|
blackshreds posted:Even though I hated him, I was a very sad young man when Sturm died. 
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 06:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 02:00 |
|
|
The main thing I remember about these books were the really long songs or poems being sung or recited by the characters and how I quickly learned to skip those pages outright. Like I totally forgot the names of all the characters until you guys wrote them again in this thread, save for Raistlin. But those songs/poems. Goddamn.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 07:18
|
|
|
DarkSoulsTantrum posted:I remember liking the Death Gate Cycle but I was like 15 and had way more patience back then. I read all 7 of them again like... 2 years ago and they held up.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 07:39
|
|
|
Original trilogy and the twins saga were bfd in my friend group back in the day. I remember playing rolemaster rpg. Our gm had made his own campaign world. He spent lot of time designing it and was really proud of it. He also took roleplaying way too seriously. Two of our players made a wizard Niltsiar and Fighter Nomarac. Gm asked about the names, but accepted their explanation. "lol. My knight is called Mruts then." -adhuin14 Our GM ragequitted the campaign after realizing what we were doing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 08:25
|
|
|
Yeah even seeing those Dragonlance novels as like an 8 year old kid it's still like "holy poo poo what is this turbonerd bullshit" when normal 8 year olds should think "ooh dragons cool"
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 08:34
|
|
|
I liked these books as a small idiot child when I first read them but once I became a nerdy idiot teenager the low quality was already obvious Remember reading some offshoot Dragonlance book about a group of draconians who were deserters from the evil army and ended up finding a bunch of female draconian eggs(they were all male because of population control or whatever) and we're like "hooray now our species can survive". It was presented as a story of them overcoming the other races' prejudices of them and taking the first steps in becoming a real society but it was about a bunch of lizardmen raising up lizardbabies so they could gently caress them bloom fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Aug 21, 2020 |
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 09:08
|
|
|
loving let's plays of D&D campaigns as novels are the worst. I found some series a few years ago and really enjoyed the first one, fantastic world building but not far into the second one it was super apparent that's what it was. It just spoils it when you can see the dice in the description. Raymond Feist is a particularly egregious example of this too. Never read dragonlance because it was obviously terrible even as a wee child and I've always dismissed the campaign setting out of hand for the same reason. Spelljammer is dang delightful though and I'm glad I kept reading the first book I picked up when I realized it was set initially on krynn.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 12:43
|
|
|
Salt Fish posted:I read all 7 of them again like... 2 years ago and they held up. There was another series they did that was in an Arabian desert type setting that I remember being ok, but again I was a teenager and I never revisited. I can’t think of the name of it right now. E: I looked it up, the series is Rose of the Prophet BAGS FLY AT NOON fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Aug 21, 2020 |
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 14:35
|
|
|
Lol, it’s GBS so I was making a bad joke. His wife’s name is Laura.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 14:36
|
|
|
Elentor posted:tbh "x is only good because it inspired a blind guardian song" might as well be a genre, and I don't even like power metal. I think we can all agree, at least, that Blind Guardian are cool as hell. Totally out of Weiss and Hickman's league. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGorj_buhBo
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 14:49
|
|
|
I am reading all of this and I can honestly say that I don't remember poo poo but the character names. And Tika's big ol tiddies
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 15:30
|
|
|
There is one good thing that came out of Dragonlance. The game Dragonstrike, which is like an ol flight sim but you fly on a dragon killing other dragon knights. I don't know anything about the setting and the game doesn't seem to have much to say on the matter so that probably helps.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 15:30
|
|
|
quote:Later in the development process it was decided that a trilogy of fantasy novels would be released with the modules. Originally an external writer was hired, but the design group found themselves more and more disillusioned with his work. At this point it was suggested that Hickman and Margaret Weis, an editor in TSR's book department who had become involved with the project, ought to write the books. They wrote the five chapters over a weekend and were given the job to write the accompanying novels based on that.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 15:37
|
|
|
Flint Fireforge, Dwarf Stereotype He can't swim. He's scared of horses, but won't admit it. (This is a major running trope.) He's a real rear end in a top hat to the kender. (That last one is fine.) He has an axe. True, he comes from the era when all dwarves were grouchy Wilford Brimleys, rather than these more enlightened times when they're all Scottish Wilford Brimleys, but he's just kind of a nothingburger of a character, viz: Dragonlance Fandom Wiki posted:According to author Mark Anthony, "Flint believes that there is something more to be had in life, though he follows many different paths in his search for that elusive something." Or worse: Wikipedia posted:Lauren Davis of io9 called Flint "the group's father figure whose crankiness serves as a bromantic foil to Tasslehoff's good cheer". A dadbromance for the ages. Wikipedia posted:The character of Flint Fireforge was listed in UGO Entertainment's list of "The Best Dwarves Ever". I hope he was below Bombur on that list. Really what makes me crabby is his death, as I mentioned: he's battling alongside his friends. Gradually, he gets more and more fatigued and his is felled. No, haha. That was just a dream that also happened in the story. He has a heart attack and sits down and dies. I can't remember if this is part of the third-book cliffhanger or it happens in the middle of the story. Either way, not a good narrative choice.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 16:28
|
|
|
"ahhh oohh it's me heart..Tasslehoff..r..run for help..I.." "lol eat poo poo you tubby bitch I hope we can find enough rocks to cover your fat corpse. You'll die on this road for all those insults. Hahaha." "Tassle...no..please..I...is...is that my coinpurse?!"
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 16:35
|
|
|
What was the name of that DragonLance book that took place in a volcano inhabited by dwarves that powered everything by steam?
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 16:43
|
|
|
Empty Sandwich posted:Flint Fireforge, Dwarf Stereotype He doesn’t really hate Tasslehoff though. He has a soft spot for him but he can’t show it because he’s a gruff dwarf you see. IIRC Tas is quite broken up about his death.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:11
|
|
|
Tasslehoff can go tassle off a cliff
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:13
|
|
|
drat I haven't thought about these for years. I used to snag a few when I'd hit the used book store as a kid. I enjoyed them at the time. I remember the gully dwarves one where they find a dragon egg while out hunting rats for food. The gully dwarf king leaves the cave and becomes a hero I think. I can't believe I never gave gully dwarves a second thought. There was the one where ogres where beautiful and smart but got cursed to be ugly and dumb. An island of smart and pretty ones survives which a blind hot ogre finds. There were a few about the native American elves. Koganesti maybe. Was a K word. The first one opens with their leader running through the mountains naked and meets a goat that ends up being a dragon.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:14
|
|
|
Lol, I just remembered my freshman year in college my English prof made us read Dragons of Autumn Twilight
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:19
|
|
|
What's a gully dwarf?
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:21
|
|
|
Zeniel posted:What's a gully dwarf? Race of literally-retarded dwarves that everyone hates and treats like garbage
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:22
|
|
|
Zeniel posted:What's a gully dwarf? Take a small dwarf. Have it live in a cave covered in garbage instead of a mine. Give it an IQ below 60. Finally make it survive by scrounging through garbage and eating rats it has bashed to death with a stick.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:24
|
|
|
I read so many of these as a kid but blocked most of them out of my memory. I liked the ravenloft books. Each one was basically a clone of a real horror story. Like the strahd one was just Dracula but with a different name. At least that’s how I remember them
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:32
|
|
|
DarkSoulsTantrum posted:Lol, I just remembered my freshman year in college my English prof made us read Dragons of Autumn Twilight As, like, a 'how not to write' thing? Right? 
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 17:42
|
|
|
firrup posted:Take a small dwarf. Have it live in a cave covered in garbage instead of a mine. Give it an IQ below 60. Finally make it survive by scrounging through garbage and eating rats it has bashed to death with a stick. They're just hobbits who didn't figure out air vents for their disgusting moist worm holes
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 18:02
|
|
|
Sturm Brightblade, Knight of Solamnia He has a mustache. And armor. And uh a sword. Another cipher. He's stiffly devoted to his paladin poo poo, and the only thing I remember about him is that at some point the party has to retreat, and when it's couched like that, he refuses. So they have to be like "No we're actually taking up arms back here, dude," and only then will he not suicide by... I don't remember the attacking force. One of my problems with these books is how much everybody is a complete rear end in a top hat. "I can't retreat unless you obviously lie to me, so there's an insane loophole." ("I'm not stealing; I'm constantly borrowing poo poo without permission." "I'm not scared of horses, I'm allergic." "I'm not an rear end in a top hat to my siblings... hahaha, no I am.") I'm only now learning that he wasn't even an actual knight. He was a squire, and lying about it. And from the same source, I'm learning that he was fired from being a squire and then promoted directly to knight. Maybe the truth is... somewhere in the middle. Really makes one think.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 19:04
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 19:04
|
|
|
One of my friends gave me a big compendium of Dragonlance to read, with forwards for each section by the writers. The only one that wasn't masturbatory gushing over Tolkien and the blandest ideas of fantasy was the guy responsible for gnomes. "I got the idea for gnomes from having three different roommates in college who were all mechanical engineers. One of them built a drat faraday cage for the microwave because he kept leaving the fork on his plate. God, gently caress mechanical engineers." Best part of the book imo Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Aug 21, 2020 |
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 19:32
|
|
|
Father Wendigo posted:One of my friends gave me a big compendium of Dragonlance to read, with forwards for each section by the writers. The only one that wasn't masturbatory gushing over Tolkien and the blandest ideas of fantasy was the guy responsible for gnomes. I can't remember much about the gnomes, but they seem a colorful spot in this sea of taupe. I'm kind of glad they were conceived in frustration, if only because I sometimes use" engineer" as a pejorative.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 19:42
|
|
|
Idgi if you make a Faraday cage inside the microwave wouldn't it just not perform its function of heating poo poo up? The cage would just redirect all the energy to itself and likely void your warranty while making pretty sparks
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 20:08
|
|
|
Coolio I can no longer find any evidence of this. Coolio loving loves Dragonlance. I read a profile when he was at his career zenith where he was like "Oh poo poo! Dragonlance!" and bought some novels. I can find zero evidence of this now. This one isn't a dig, regardless. Coolio spent a lot of his childhood bedridden with asthma. That's some tough poo poo to deal with. But I do wish some more interesting rapper could have stood up for, say, the Forgotten Realms. Like, hearing Prince Paul talk about leading his party through the Mines of Bloodstone or whatever, you know? This one is more a fun fact than a case against this terrible pretend world.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 20:36
|
|
|
Internetjack posted:Yeah, that was Huma's mentor in the Knights of Solomnia. The story builds him as this heroic guardian of justice and then the plot twist of having sold his soul years before comes to the surface at the end. I thought that was just fun story telling. The Legend of Huma was good, largely because it had very little to do with the vast majority of modern-day Dragonlance, and made good use of the few inherently good setting details, like Minotaurs being a whole race of intelligent pirate warrior dudes. It's one of my, like, two? Three? Dragonlance novels I have in a box somewhere, after I got rid of the rest of my collection in my early/mid teens.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 20:58
|
|
|
Colonel Cancer posted:Idgi if you make a Faraday cage inside the microwave wouldn't it just not perform its function of heating poo poo up? The cage would just redirect all the energy to itself and likely void your warranty while making pretty sparks 
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 21:02
|
|
|
firrup posted:Take a small dwarf. Have it live in a cave covered in garbage instead of a mine. Give it an IQ below 60. Finally make it survive by scrounging through garbage and eating rats it has bashed to death with a stick. Also, Gully Dwarves are literally the products of miscegenation. Like, literally, they're the way they are because humans and dwarves interbred. MORMON OPINIONS
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 21:03
|
|
|
^Gnomes and dwarves, i am here to set things right about Dragonlance Anyway I don't think the Dragonlance novels are good but i think the 2nd trilogy is good and if you could separate it from the rest of the world it could stand on its own legs, but i think expanded shared universes are very dumb, im really glad you could read this post about Dragonlance!
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 21:04
|
|
|
I have to admit that I kind of enjoy the people coming in to the thread called 'Dragonlance sucks' and either dropping the hot "yo these books are terrible" takes, or feeling like they need to apologize for reading or enjoying them as kids. "These books with big tittied elf bitches on the front written by DnD players specifically as fan fiction for children aren't top tier word craft of the highest caliber?" That's a shocking take and pretty bold to say that actually you WEREN'T a huge fan even at the time. It's because it does indeed suck, imo. There. I'm layin' it down. It's real bad. And it's ok.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 21:35
|
|
|
Yeah plus it gave us really memorable characters like Dagoth Ur and Uncle Fuckface.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 21:58
|
|
|
feedmegin posted:As, like, a 'how not to write' thing? Right? Lol no. As, like, “modern American literature”. He was a young first year professor and super nerdy.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 22:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 02:00 |
|
|
Lord Soth The badass bad guy. He was a paladin, and now he is the biggest possible jerk: a death knight. Oh dang, his fall was because he was boning someone who wasn't his wife. Eventually he became a skellington because of that. Well, poo poo. That's how it goes. Please enjoy this picture of the most badass foe on Krynn: 
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2020 22:27
|
|