ITT we face up to the fact civilisation is collapsing

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Jakabite: Jul 31, 2010

I�m British

naem posted:

I�m pretty sure people think the world is ending at least once a century, it�s just some bad stuff is happening right now and most of us aren�t used to that

Have you heard of a little once in planetary history event called anthtropogenic climate change? Hoo boy are you gonna be surprised

# ? Aug 21, 2020 19:18

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naem: May 29, 2011

Fartbox posted:

Why do americans suddenly feel like the world is ending just because of covid and police brutality or whatever is going on locally on your lands when it is in fact, the climate crisis, that we've known about for years now, that is going to gently caress us all up much much much worse. I hope your politicians are still talking about that poo poo cuz the world won't make it without Americas help either

Americans are pretty soft right now, things have been very comfy here for a couple decades.

Our politician class have been able to take advantage of that, eroding the foundations of that comfort, and many are just now finding out �sometimes bad things can happen?? I want to talk to the manager!! Make things all *gestures childishly* comfy again!!�

# ? Aug 21, 2020 19:19

Tekne: Feb 15, 2012; It's-a me, motherfucker

Fartbox posted:

Why do americans suddenly feel like the world is ending just because of covid and police brutality or whatever is going on locally on your lands when it is in fact, the climate crisis, that we've known about for years now, that is going to gently caress us all up much much much worse. I hope your politicians are still talking about that poo poo cuz the world won't make it without Americas help either

here in the ashen state, california, the climate calamity has already started with 6 straight days of 100+ degree weather and freak thunderstorms setting off firestorms that have already burned 600,000 acres in a few nights

the united states won't make any meaningful impact on warming's advance and we hope you join us soon in the blaze

# ? Aug 21, 2020 19:22

naem: May 29, 2011

Tekne posted:

here in the ashen state, california, the climate calamity has already started with 6 straight days of 100+ degree weather and freak thunderstorms setting off firestorms that have already burned 600,000 acres in a few nights

the united states won't make any meaningful impact on warming's advance and we hope you join us soon in the blaze

the US will soon consist of the EverFire coast, the PermaHurricane coast and the Water coast aka everything south of Tennessee (which is underwater)

# ? Aug 21, 2020 20:03

Battlevader: Nov 17, 2017

And number one little american pig continued building his house using sticks.
And number two little american pig continued building his house using straw.
And number three little american pig continued building his house of bricks and mumbled by himself: " Why the heck are they still making lovely houses in the tornado-alley and hurricane zones"
:-)

# ? Aug 21, 2020 20:19

Strumpie: Dec 9, 2012

i'm going to eat my neighbour.

i've said this before in another thread, but it's still relevant.

# ? Aug 21, 2020 21:05

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Strumpie posted:

i'm going to eat my neighbour.

i've said this before in another thread, but it's still relevant.

How are you going to prepare them? Surely you're not so much of a barbarian to eat them raw

# ? Aug 21, 2020 21:06

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# ? Aug 21, 2020 21:09

Strumpie: Dec 9, 2012

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

How are you going to prepare them? Surely you're not so much of a barbarian to eat them raw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIX6_p5QpLw

# ? Aug 21, 2020 21:11

Sleeveless: Dec 25, 2014; by Pragmatica

Rondette posted:

I remember watching Armageddon back in the day and I thinking America was going to get taken down a peg or two very soon. It really is peak american exceptionalism put to film.

At least Armageddon is actually an entertaining summer blockbuster, every time China tries to use blockbuster films to wave their dicks it's a complete turd.

# ? Aug 21, 2020 21:19

Fartbox: Apr 27, 2017; What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

This was uploaded 17 hours ago and has 76 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdZLi9oWNZg

# ? Aug 21, 2020 22:07

Lucky Guy: Jan 24, 2013; TY for no bm

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

How are you going to prepare them? Surely you're not so much of a barbarian to eat them raw

always brine your meat, it's worth the wait!

# ? Aug 22, 2020 18:11

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Fartbox posted:

This was uploaded 17 hours ago and has 76 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdZLi9oWNZg

Thanks buddy, I'm a lot more comfortable with the impending fall of civilization now.

# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:46

grillster: Dec 25, 2004

It's only hosed if you believe everything you're told.
The satan worshipping masturbators will have their day.

Strumpie posted:

i'm going to eat my neighbour.

i've said this before in another thread, but it's still relevant.

It will be okay Mr. Jones

# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:31

Internetjack: Sep 15, 2007; oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers; Top Cop

If you don't have a copy of the SAS Survival Handbook on your bookshelf; just lol!

# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:23

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Tbh, living in nz I sometimes look forward to impending societal collapse.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:48

Funky See Funky Do: Aug 20, 2013; STILL TRYING HARD

Weka posted:

Tbh, living in nz I sometimes look forward to impending societal collapse.

What would even be the difference for you?

# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:51

sure okay: Apr 7, 2006

Im looking forward to society trudging ever forward like the intellectual moss growing on this rock.

Ive never met a doomsayer more terrified of the idea that this is not, in fact, some steady decline into a new world order, but in fact just the low point of yet another endless cycle - one that subtly yet completely shifts us into something unrecognizable to the olds, but becomes the new normal for our kids.

And itll come around again and again, you and me duly forgotten by the sands of time, as your great grandchildren shake their fists at the looming clouds of their own time, they themselves convinced that THIS time, THIS thing that is happening is the real existential threat.

There is no threat.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:17

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

sure okay posted:

Im looking forward to society trudging ever forward like the intellectual moss growing on this rock.

Ive never met a doomsayer more terrified of the idea that this is not, in fact, some steady decline into a new world order, but in fact just the low point of yet another endless cycle - one that subtly yet completely shifts us into something unrecognizable to the olds, but becomes the new normal for our kids.

And itll come around again and again, you and me duly forgotten by the sands of time, as your great grandchildren shake their fists at the looming clouds of their own time, they themselves convinced that THIS time, THIS thing that is happening is the real existential threat.

There is no threat.

sure okay

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:21

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Society is eternal, why would things ever end?!?

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:24

William Henry Hairytaint: Oct 29, 2011

either way everyone is going to see my butt

# ? Aug 23, 2020 01:25

The Protagonist: Jun 29, 2009; The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

sure okay posted:

Im looking forward to society trudging ever forward like the intellectual moss growing on this rock.

Ive never met a doomsayer more terrified of the idea that this is not, in fact, some steady decline into a new world order, but in fact just the low point of yet another endless cycle - one that subtly yet completely shifts us into something unrecognizable to the olds, but becomes the new normal for our kids.

And itll come around again and again, you and me duly forgotten by the sands of time, as your great grandchildren shake their fists at the looming clouds of their own time, they themselves convinced that THIS time, THIS thing that is happening is the real existential threat.

There is no threat.

Yeah except for the inexorable gigadeath that will be enacted by the first world kids on the third world kids fleeing the climate apocalypse.

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Over time everything gets steadily more expensive and you start not being able to always buy whatever you want, either because it's now out of your price range or because there are actual shortages of things like coffee. Weather gets more severe and less predictable. People you know have their homes and livelihoods destroyed by extreme weather events and have to decide whether to rebuild or start over somewhere new with nothing. If you're unfortunate enough to live somewhere like the desert (lol Phoenix, Arizona) then it will become actually unaffordable to live there at all because you'll spend more on air conditioning than you make in income. Every summer you hear about hundreds of elderly people whose air conditioning broke and they died of heatstroke in their own home. Diseases that haven't been seen in your country for decades or centuries start to reappear, like malaria. Diseases that have never appeared in your country before, like Zika or Dengue, also start to appear. Mosquitoes seem to be the one insect that isn't dying out.

Insurance stops covering a lot of climate change-related damage, so as extreme weather events hit other parts of your country and people aren't able to rebuild where they lived, places like southern Florida get abandoned, not from some government plan, but from millions of people individually deciding to pack up and leave one day. The place where you live gets more crowded as internal migrants relocate only to find that life isn't any easier when they show up out of the blue with no job, no money, and no assets to sell. Your wages get cut at work because there are suddenly ten highly trained unemployed professionals who used to do your job in Miami, any of whom would gladly replace you. Your rent goes up even faster than usual because of all the population growth in your city.

The news is full of stories of weather destroying other parts of the world like Mozambique and Puerto Rico, and conflicts breaking out in areas hit by drought, famine, and disease. It's also full of stories about migrants trying to come to the developed world. It never mentions that the two things are connected, and never explores the fact that the migrants are moving because they can no longer live in their homes because their fields dried up, it didn't rain for ten years, and the desert swallowed their town. You notice the people around you getting more and more anxious about migration as their own incomes are getting stretched thinner and thinner and there are only ever more and more migrants. Electorates vote in more and more extreme right-wing figures who ban all immigration, militarize the borders, and implement ever-more draconian surveillance and monitoring of people inside the country as well. You're repeatedly told that if you're a natural-born citizen and not breaking any laws, you have nothing to fear.

Global supply chains start to break down as some regions of the world get less and less livable and some resources get either more difficult to extract and process, or get wiped out by climate change themselves, making prices rise even more and shortages hit even harder. As places start to see economic decline, people get restless and there are instances of mass unrest. On the news you see stories about mass demonstrations and massacres in random other places around the world. But here people are too busy working five gig economy jobs just to afford bread, they're too busy to protest. Governments get overthrown, countries descend into civil war, millions die in armed conflict, famine, and ensuing disease outbreaks. This further exacerbates the millions of people already trying to migrate to the less-affected developed world, but by this point our borders are so hardened that most of them die before they make it here. Deaths of hundreds or thousands of people trying to cross our borders across oceans and through deserts stop even making the news because they're so routine and we're too concerned with our own daily survival to worry about people we don't know.

What you do see on the news are feel-good stories about how a billionaire CEO now flies around in a solar-powered plane and he planted trees on his green roof. Meanwhile our cities are more choked with smog than ever, and the numbers keep getting higher. Fewer people are smoking than ever before, but lung cancer rates seem to be higher than ever. You get a particularly bad cough and you'd like to see a doctor about it, but they cut your benefits at work so you just hope it goes away on its own. The UN releases a report saying that we have three years to act if we want to avoid 8 degrees of warming, but by this point we've read so many reports saying we've already passed the tipping point that no one cares.

All our topsoil is vanishing and by this point even some people with jobs literally can't afford food. But the state is militarized enough that no one really thinks about protest except for the occasional spontaneous riot that doesn't accomplish anything long-term. Facial recognition software and ubiquitous surveillance and tracking means protesting is a one-way ticket to prison, if you aren't literally killed or maimed by the police breaking up the protest. And anyway, even attending a legal protest harms your social credit score and means you won't be able to get a loan the next time food prices spike and you can't afford enough to get through the week. Drug abuse, overdoses, and suicide are all rampant as people lose hope and decide to numb themselves or end it quickly rather than die slow, painful deaths. There are people literally starving to death in the streets and every summer you're pretty sure some of the homeless people lying on the sidewalk have died of heatstroke. Half the food you used to see in supermarkets is just plain gone, wiped out by disease or unable to grow where it used to or the supply chains that used to ship it in from halfway around the world have collapsed completely. The other half of the food is so expensive that you can only afford to buy the barest essentials. The wars on TV get worse as countries invade each other to get at the farmland that remains. Despite the police everywhere, law and order seems to be breaking down in your city, there are enormous waves of robberies, burglaries, home invasions, murders, as desperate people do whatever it takes to get through another day. The rich are comfortably secure in gated communities protected by private mercenaries with tanks and machine guns, who regularly use lethal force to defend their employers' property.

Eventually you die. If you're lucky it's in some extreme weather event and it's over quickly. If you're unlucky you starve to death because you lost your job and bread is too expensive. I hope you don't have kids because they still have a few more decades in this miserable hellhole, while civilization continues to collapse around them. They probably eventually die deaths even less pleasant than yours.
Some humans will survive, even in 15 degrees of warming. Our civilization won't.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:02

Internetjack: Sep 15, 2007; oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers; Top Cop

Funky See Funky Do posted:

What would even be the difference for you?

They get an extra 6-12 months before the nuclear fallout from the northern hemisphere circulates through the entire planet's atmosphere and poisons them to death.

So, the get to race cars and drink good wine for a bit longer than the rest of us.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:25

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

What would even be the difference for you?

We import almost everything so coffee will suck, no consumer electronics etc.
We export almost everything too so some major economic upheaval I guess.
It's actually a goal of mine to establish a domestic tractor industry just for food security.

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

either way everyone is going to see my butt

Post the butt, coward.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 02:36

funeral home DJ: Apr 21, 2003; Pillbug

I can�t wait to open up a fast food joint serving human flesh.

# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:10

Battlevader: Nov 17, 2017

Just make people to burgers and nuggets.
Call your it MacPerson ; and you have a future.

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# ? Aug 23, 2020 21:05

Furcht: May 31, 2015; I can now say in certitude that you are a stupid newbie.

A Smartie Veteran® would accept the glittering phalii for the gifts that they are.

That's okay though, we all started as noobs.

"Civilisation isn't ending"

ROFLMAO poo poo's on fire yo!

# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:09

Fartbox: Apr 27, 2017; What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

Weka posted:

Thanks buddy, I'm a lot more comfortable with the impending fall of civilization now.

176 million views now

# ? Aug 24, 2020 10:14

Mooey Cow: Jan 27, 2018; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Pillbug

Some people desperately need to believe that the world is ending tomorrow. It's the only way they can hang on. Humanity is however not going anywhere any time soon. You will have to learn to live with this fact.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:04

Fame Douglas: Nov 20, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Mooey Cow posted:

Some people desperately need to believe that the world is ending tomorrow. It's the only way they can hang on. Humanity is however not going anywhere any time soon. You will have to learn to live with this fact.

That's a nice thing to tell yourself if it makes you feel better and helps you hang on, but an asteroid could hit literally tomorrow and end all civilization. You will have to learn to live with this fact.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:12

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

Fame Douglas posted:

That's a nice thing to tell yourself if it makes you feel better and helps you hang on, but an asteroid could hit literally tomorrow and end all civilization. You will have to learn to live with this fact.

There's a vast difference between an asteroid arriving tomorrow and someone constantly believing entirely that tomorrow is and must be that day.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:20

Fartbox: Apr 27, 2017; What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

An asteroid might end all life on earth, but God will spray his seed over this planet and humanity will be born again

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:27

Mooey Cow: Jan 27, 2018; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Pillbug

Fame Douglas posted:

That's a nice thing to tell yourself if it makes you feel better and helps you hang on, but an asteroid could hit literally tomorrow and end all civilization. You will have to learn to live with this fact.

Even if that did happen, humanity would most likely find some way to survive.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:29

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

[spending six hours a day masturbating in front of my gaming rig as others in my safe, stable Western society work to provide in my needs] wow civilization is ending, it's basically Mad Max at this point, makes the Black Death or the so-called collapse of the Roman Empire look like jokes

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:30

Fame Douglas: Nov 20, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Mooey Cow posted:

Even if that did happen, humanity would most likely find some way to survive.

Maybe. But whether some humans might survive isn't the relevant question anyways: People are invested in the continuation of our current way of life, which climate change poses a threat to. I don't care whether humanity itself survives, I care about being able to continue going to McDonald's.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:31

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Wait I actually agree with Sleeveless on this one, gently caress it keeps happening

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:33

Dont Touch ME: Apr 1, 2018

Y'all are soft as gently caress. I guess this is the inevitable conclusion of screeching like a banshee over absolutely loving nothing. It becomes inevitable that when there's even the slightest bump of something not great, the screeching intensifies 10 fold.

In the last century there were two global wars, with an intermission consisting of widespread civil wars and a plague that killed 25% of the world's population. The second one ended in usage of nuclear weapons and the wind down was 50 years of imminent nuclear annihilation , and among other things, literal mind control experiments.

But you're all so soft, and you're being stuffed full of outrage content in both holes that when the geosociological temp goes up a degree you interpret it as the end times. The thought of your cushy life being interrupted only means your imminent demise.

Feel free to leave all your worldly possessions to me

Jakabite posted:

once in planetary history event

Lmao you naïve little baby. Australia and Europe used to be sprawling jungles. North Africa used to look like Europe. It takes a lot more than some natural disasters and things getting hot to kill people off.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:44

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Yeah just look at the Fremen. If they can do it so can we

e: he did explicitly say 'anthropogenic', though.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:45

Dont Touch ME: Apr 1, 2018

Phlegmish posted:

Yeah just look at the Fremen. If they can do it so can we

e: he did explicitly say 'anthropogenic', though.

Australia was entirely anthropogenic. Much of Europe and the Nile Delta, too.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:47

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# ? May 21, 2024 02:22

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Australia, really? Do you have a link?

I have read that the 'pristine' Amazon rainforest was already heavily shaped by human actions

# ? Aug 24, 2020 13:51

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