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Japan’s actions in China during WWII were pretty loving bad, too.
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Malkina_ posted:Japan’s actions in China during WWII were pretty loving bad, too.  
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What about the sea peoples?
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yeah in terms of sheer breadth i think the British Empire may have been Peak Evil and we're just grasping at trying to reclaim that (un-)greatness again
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eSports Chaebol posted:yeah in terms of sheer breadth i think the British Empire may have been Peak Evil and we're just grasping at trying to reclaim that (un-)greatness again Make Anglos Genocidal Again
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The Bloodrock Orc clan, OP. Noooograh!
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eSports Chaebol posted:yeah in terms of sheer breadth i think the British Empire may have been Peak Evil and we're just grasping at trying to reclaim that (un-)greatness again the anglo is a debased creature whose primitive minds have little room for thought or feeling but a boundless appetite for cruelty. no one could hope to surpass them.
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fabergay egg posted:the anglo is a debased creature whose primitive minds have little room for thought or feeling but a boundless appetite for cruelty. no one could hope to surpass them. anglos are the worst phenotype of that most execrable species, the homo sapiens
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Nazi Germany - - Malkina_ (Context: "Nazi Germany was inspired by the Louisiana Purchase") Nazi Germany - - Stairmaster (Context: "which was deeply inspired by american colonialism" ) ^^^^^ Less Evil ^^^^^ ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== America no - Shima Honnou Itt people confusing Total Units of Damage Done with Total Units of Evil Society. - thehandtruck ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== vvvvvv More Evil vvvvvv Mongols - - ASAPRockySituation, and Jewel Repetition Belgian - - Sharkopath British - - lorn Wayne Babylon - - Impkins Patootie carcosa - - SpaceGoku Iran - - net cafe scandal China - - net cafe scandal Russia - - net cafe scandal North Korea - - net cafe scandal Mad Max 3 - - Endorph Cuba - - a few DRUNK BONERS Britain - - Crowsbeak Rome from 150bc-150ad - - Crowsbeak Assyria - - Crowsbeak Atlantis - - Dreddout funeralopolis - - Moam The Assyrians - - Congo Jack ottoman empire as a part of Rome - - rabble rabble Belgium between 1865 and 1909 - - Gringostar Spain - - Alhazred Dutch - - Filthy Hans Timur's empire - - Lawman 0, and Herstory Begins Now immediate post-reconquestia spain - - lawman 0 all crusader states - - Lawman 0 Japan’s actions in China during WWII - - Malkina_ The Bloodrock Orc clan, OP. Noooograh! - - Symthe Anglos - - animist Humanity - - MysteriousStranger mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 21:43 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Stringent posted:Good point yeah, as far as pure evil goes I think the Belgians are the real world leaders. as a brit i hear about the belgians a lot but is there anything they did that the british empire didn't? i don't know a whole lot about it but collective punishment is up there with divide and rule for fundamentals of empire but as a serious answer to the OP question: all empires are evil, so it just comes down to size. The main power of states and the only thing that lets them exist is the inhuman level of violence and cruelty they can inflict, magnitudes more than any individual or group, and an empire is a state of states. is an empire that oppresses a million people 1000x as evil as an empire of 1000? or at least moreso? if so i'd say the british empire and its successor state, the american empire are currently fighting for the title of most evil society in history
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Malkina_ posted:The only reason why Francisco Franco, a self-admitted fascist, did not join the Axis in WWII is because their country was just destroyed by a civil war with the communists (funded by Stalin) — Franco received significant financial and military aid from Nazi Germany & Italy in doing so. Without the communists burning down most of fascist Spain, the latter most likely would have joined the Axis, which would have made invading the Atlantic wall of Nazi-occupied Europe essentially impossible, thus enabling the victory of Nazi fascism. Hitler, swearing in his bunker before he shoots himself: Ach! If only I had another Italy to protect me!
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Communist Thoughts posted:as a brit i hear about the belgians a lot but is there anything they did that the british empire didn't? that's a good question, and i think it basically splits on your personal views about actively participating in atrocities versus setting up atrocious circumstances and letting the chips fall where they may.
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When the Congolese got independence from Belgium they Belgians systematically destroyed all the infrastructure they had built to gently caress over the Congolese. Really vindictive poo poo Anyway Vlad the Impaler was pretty cool right?
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Stringent posted:that's a good question, and i think it basically splits on your personal views about actively participating in atrocities versus setting up atrocious circumstances and letting the chips fall where they may. its not really about that for me, the british were extremely active participants too. i'm not sure if its what you're referring to but the idea of the british empire being hands off and mainly doing evil through neglect is british mythmaking. it was the classic brit combo of neglect and active incompetent evil (in that the evil occurs very effectively but the intended effect aside from cruelty almost always backfires) during the amazingly named "sepoy mutiny" aka the first indian war for independence the brits tied people to cannons and blew them to peices, forced them to drink human blood before executing them, torturing them with hot knives and tearing their genitals off etc hanging and raping whole villages, classic empire stuff. during this period this was being reported in the press but the british press loved it, since they'd whipped themselves into a frenzy over stories of indian men raping white women. all the newscasters becoming blood drunk psychopaths should be pretty familiar to anyone who was alive in 2003 all the prestige newspapers in britain today can be found running blood curdling imperial pieces about how the lesser races must be killed or tortured occasionally to keep them in line when the brits were forced out of these places they burned and destroyed all the records of the empire the british have never owned up to anything they did, in fact talking about it is seen as outright dangerous Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 14:14 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:as a brit i hear about the belgians a lot but is there anything they did that the british empire didn't? Ideologically the worst are America, Nazi Germany, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and North Korea
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And India holy poo poo
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Malkina_ posted:And India holy poo poo seeing Modi literally cribbing from Israels notes lately was some real  poo poo
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I really like the letter that Charles the V sent to like Cortez asking him why the gently caress he was abusing his new subjects that by right should be treated like those in Spain and Germany and Cortez basically responds that the only reason people would come to New Spain is if they were allowed to abuse the Mexica for profit.
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does Bowser govern a nation; to what is the Koopa King
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Smythe posted:The Bloodrock Orc clan, OP. Noooograh! 
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Let's flip it, has any society ever not been evil
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Mayor Dave posted:Let's flip it, has any society ever not been evil USSR
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Mayor Dave posted:Let's flip it, has any society ever not been evil the Minoan civilization the only western classical civilization that didn't honor military might above other virtues they really liked to party and most of their art reflected that, as opposed to the battle commemorations, statues of generals, and general bloodthirsty arts of their neighbors they weren't militant and were big on forging relations through trade I don't remember how the civilization declined, maybe they turned as lovely as everyone else quick edit: I don't know what slavery was present there, but I assume there was some and that's evil, I just think the Minoans were the least lovely of the available options Filthy Hans has issued a correction as of 16:39 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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Minoan society got owned by a bull
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Mayor Dave posted:Minoan society got owned by a bull they got owned by Daedalus in making that giant rear end labyrinth lmao get your gold economy sunk Linear A society
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their archers were really good thouh
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The Khmer Rogue killed like a quarter of their population in four years so relatively speaking it was a pretty poo poo society to live in. Of course going by sheer volume nobody will ever touch the highscore set by the British empire.
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Bro Dad posted:Comcast lol
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not only did the brits commit every atrocity imaginable on a scale and breadth never before seen, but they also are responsible for the us existing so i think they win
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America can't be the most evil society because it isn't one.
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Bro Dad posted:Comcast
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Filthy Hans posted:anglos are the worst phenotype of that most execrable species, the homo sapiens and despite how bad the other populations are, it’s not even close.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Nazi Germany - - Malkina_ (Context: "Nazi Germany was inspired by the Louisiana Purchase") Put me down for Mongols
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Communist Thoughts posted:during this period this was being reported in the press but the british press loved it, since they'd whipped themselves into a frenzy over stories of indian men raping white women. yeah, but what were they saying back then?
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fabergay egg posted:yeah, but what were they saying back then? lol the sentence stands both ways
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Jewel Repetition posted:Put me down for Mongols Cool. Also for general purposes: typed it out so anybody can just copy and paste it without quoting. Or fix it up. It is quite a visually ugly post. Legit feel bad about its presentation.
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evil isn't a loving political or economic category, it's a moral category. asking which country/empire/ethnic group/corporation/capital formation/ideology/culture is most 'evil' is like asking which chemical reaction is most romantic, or which solar body is most likely to succeed after high school the necessities and contingencies of power have always been inhuman and amoral. using moral categories to understand history distorts, obfuscates, and mystifies. emTme3 has issued a correction as of 01:30 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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