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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Atlantis op

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

splifyphus posted:

evil isn't a loving political or economic category, it's a moral category. asking which country/empire/ethnic group/corporation/capital formation/ideology/culture is most 'evil' is like asking which chemical reaction is most romantic, or which solar body is most likely to succeed after high school

the necessities and contingencies of power have always been inhuman and amoral. using moral categories to understand history distorts, obfuscates, and mystifies.

Atlantis was def the most evil tho

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

PawParole posted:

the reverse American exceptionalist logs on, flips thru his printed out howard zinn sparknotes pamphlet (howard-zine) that he hands out to creeped out children who can read betterer than him, and starts open palm slamming the keyboard w/th HARD FACTS showing why Amerikka is the most evil country in the world, and definitely not just an utterly unremarkable country, either for good or for evil.

Idk seems pretty silly to define the most militarily powerful nation in human history as unremarkable. That's a term I'd reserve for podunk nations like Canada

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

PawParole posted:

in a hundred years no one alive will remember America existed

Nah you talk to a goon 500's years from now and they'll think of America in the same way we think of alexander's empire or the mongols. Joining the club of empires that very quickly rose and fell but defined the era they lived in by the mere fact of there rise.
You don't even have to be an American exceptionalist to understand this. Quite the contrary. America didn't earn it's place in history but it got very very lucky and landed in a situation where it had half of the world's industrial output for a short period of time.

It will be impossible to talk about the 20th century or developments that followed without talking about america's role in it, for better or worse.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Unless of course you're referring to the possibility that humanity won't exist in 100 years due to climate change. In which case America becomes even more remarkable for it's role in ending human civilization. But we'll leave that one for the roachmen to pontificate on.

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
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