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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

TheKingofSprings posted:

Benghazi II had their moments when they weren't telling everyone to kill themselves too but that cookie crumbled a while ago

There’s a difference between obnoxious hornyposting and telling people to kill themselves but yeah, there’s a point where being a nice guy sometimes doesn’t cut it anymore.

Basically, I have to talk it over with the rest of the mod team but the line is probably going to be “if I can tell what you jerk off to from a post, it’s on a ramp”

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HoboTech
Feb 13, 2005

Reading this with the voice in your skull.
"Yeah he's a pretty cool guy when he's not shouting at his girlfriend and trying to gently caress the dog."

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I also admit I don’t read the deviantart thread so I don’t see him at his worst

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

HoboTech posted:

"Yeah he's a pretty cool guy when he's not shouting at his girlfriend and trying to gently caress the dog."

Hey, don't bring Morally Inept into this.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

TheKingofSprings posted:

Benghazi II had their moments when they weren't telling everyone to kill themselves too but that cookie crumbled a while ago

RIP tiny brontosaurus

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Probably no way to have a vtuber thread as this point without another adtrw mod and a non-compromised thread IK.

gnome7 posted:

Gura wrote a love letter during her visit to the JP server

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt19z-9XqWU

And it looks like it reached its target:

https://twitter.com/murasakishionch/status/1430075093368016896

Probably more on this story once Gura wakes up for the day

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I won't be posting here anymore. I mostly lurked the thread so it's not much of a loss but I do want to say something about all the awful stuff that has happened, why I no longer feel comfortable posting here and so on.

I no longer know what is considered acceptable in this thread or not, the rule is "don't be creepy" but by the standards of some of those who brought the moderators down on the last thread basically any discussion of vtubers counts as creepy. Whose standard are we supposed to be using here?

For example what about ASMR? It seems like Fauna and Kronii will be doing ASMR streams in the future and plenty of other vtubers do ASMR right now, Noel and Okayu for instance. Is that subject acceptable? I sure as hell don't know, I don't even watch ASMR, I'm one of those people who doesn't get the whole ASMR thing but I have found discussion of the subject interesting to read about so it makes me sad to think that people aren't allowed to talk about it anymore.

What about dirty jokes that the vtubers make? I mean, we seemingly already had that answered but apparently dirty jokes are now unacceptable on SA? If I went to whatever subforum you go to to discuss stand up comedy would I get in trouble for discussing dirty jokes made by a stand up comedian? I guess I would? I genuinely don't know but before this whole debacle I thought that dirty jokes were ok on SA but I don't know anymore.

What if I post a stream reservation from a vtuber and later during said stream they say something over the line like a dirty joke? Would I get in trouble for that? I don't know.

The atmosphere of this thread, at least for me, is now like walking on eggshells, I don't know what I can say or do or what will cause the belt to come off and get me, or possibly others in the thread punished, it's just deeply unpleasant here now and that makes me really sad because this thread used to be a refuge for me.

I tried to bring this up with a mod, but so far they haven't responded, I don't know if they will or not but I've pretty much given up at this point.

Sorry for talking to y'all, bye. :sigh:

Hidingo Kojimba posted:

Some of these probations do seem capricious, yeah.

junan_paalla posted:

it's two adults with anime avatars making a joke jfc

All these people should be getting 1 week minimum for being unable to prevent themselves from stepping into the poo poo of what was being blasted all over the thread the last 2-3 days and countless reminders to err on the side of caution for that stuff.

Everyone else on that page is able to talk about what bread they are classified as, or singing events, etc etc. completely normal weird meme stuff that doesn't hinge on being being horny.

I'm not really sure what's worse, the fact this kept happening, or that when a poster got dinged for being creepy someone felt the need to write their 95 Theses about how this was ruining their experience of vtubers.

ASMR is kind of weird, because I personally can't stand it, it's like nails on a chalkboard, but it's often described as relaxing and therapeutic. Things like people with smooth voices whispering the weather report, sipping water, making sounds with tools and so on. I don't know if it really deserves to be labeled as a fetish because I know so little about it.

pentyne has a new favorite as of 20:13 on Aug 24, 2021

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




pentyne posted:

ASMR is kind of weird, because I personally can't stand it, it's like nails on a chalkboard, but it's often described as relaxing and therapeutic. Things like people with smooth voices whispering the weather report, sipping water, making sounds with tools and so on. I don't know if it really deserves to be labeled as a fetish because I know so little about it.

It’s a fetish when it’s infantilised anime characters making baby noises

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!


E: I'm not passing any judgements on ASMR streamers, but it is undeniable what attracts the majority of their audience.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I can hear this image.

I was legit thinking of stuff like people opening wrapping paper or slowly typing away at a mechanical keyboard with the mic 3 inches away.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

love to go home from work, crack open a cold beer and listen to some twitch lady fart into a stereo microphone.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

anyone else lollin' about the poster literally named after an 11 year old cheerful orphan girl continuing to go to bat for the creepiest vtuber fans and painting everyone else saying it was weird and hosed up as concern trolling?

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

quote:

For example what about ASMR? It seems like Fauna and Kronii will be doing ASMR streams in the future and plenty of other vtubers do ASMR right now, Noel and Okayu for instance. Is that subject acceptable? I sure as hell don't know, I don't even watch ASMR, I'm one of those people who doesn't get the whole ASMR thing but I have found discussion of the subject interesting to read about so it makes me sad to think that people aren't allowed to talk about it anymore.

this si the funniest loving poo poo

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




pentyne posted:

I can hear this image.

I was legit thinking of stuff like people opening wrapping paper or slowly typing away at a mechanical keyboard with the mic 3 inches away.

Yeah none of that needs a fancy anime girl model rig thing so think about what specifically people might do with that in mind

Sad Billionaire
Mar 31, 2009

What a twist
Fan of Britches

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

this si the funniest loving poo poo

I looked it up and one of those ASMR vtubers is a 16 year-old catgirl

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Rockman Reserve posted:

anyone else lollin' about the poster literally named after an 11 year old cheerful orphan girl continuing to go to bat for the creepiest vtuber fans and painting everyone else saying it was weird and hosed up as concern trolling?

i honestly have no idea what name you mean

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
this is asmr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nHn34oUqpc

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

also asmr is kinda weird to the outside observer but if it works for you it can be calming, which is nice for someone that has anxiety a lot like me

just probably not the ones by 12 year old girls

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Rockman Reserve posted:

anyone else lollin' about the poster literally named after an 11 year old cheerful orphan girl continuing to go to bat for the creepiest vtuber fans and painting everyone else saying it was weird and hosed up as concern trolling?

they had 2 posts that from context seemed like getting ready to spit fire defending the vtuber thread but blanked them really quickly.

their main argument was something how since they are gay, liking asmr isn't a sexual thing. So, yeah, that can be true, but it's also true that while you discuss how much you love the vtuber's voice and their asmr whispers in a non-horny way the other people in the conversation have one hand down their pants while they agree with you.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Paladinus posted:



E: I'm not passing any judgements on ASMR streamers, but it is undeniable what attracts the majority of their audience.

from what i understand, a lot of the half-naked asmr streaming happened after twitch added the pools & beaches category and all the streamers who were writing usernames on their asses for subs moved on to asmr.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Aurora posted:

i honestly have no idea what name you mean

pollyanna, she's like tied with annie and pippi longstocking for famous precocious prepubescent orphan girls

e:

pentyne posted:

they had 2 posts that from context seemed like getting ready to spit fire defending the vtuber thread but blanked them really quickly.

their main argument was something how since they are gay, liking asmr isn't a sexual thing. So, yeah, that can be true, but it's also true that while you discuss how much you love the vtuber's voice and their asmr whispers in a non-horny way the other people in the conversation have one hand down their pants while they agree with you.

they were having a normal one in QCS as well lol

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Rockman Reserve posted:

pollyanna, she's like tied with annie and pippi longstocking for famous precocious prepubescent orphan girls

huh, i know about annie and pippi longstocking but never really knew that one

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

that's the one who whipped out the full on kevin spacey defense and is still roaming free on the forums.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
What’s the Kevin spacey defense? I forget exactly which tack each sex offender took.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

I remember stumbling on asmr League of Legends patch notes and it felt like peak internet. I was so innocent then.

Sad Billionaire
Mar 31, 2009

What a twist
Fan of Britches

Ugly In The Morning posted:

What’s the Kevin spacey defense? I forget exactly which tack each sex offender took.

I'm gay

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*- but it all seems uhhh... much more weird then I really want to get into. It's also a bitch to set up.

HoboTech
Feb 13, 2005

Reading this with the voice in your skull.
sucks to your ASMR

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Ugly In The Morning posted:

What’s the Kevin spacey defense? I forget exactly which tack each sex offender took.

Saying "I'm gay" to excuse doing very hosed up poo poo.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Ugly In The Morning posted:

What’s the Kevin spacey defense? I forget exactly which tack each sex offender took.

'I'm gay, therefore the pedo charges against me are obviously untrue.'

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Boba Pearl posted:

This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*- but it all seems uhhh... much more weird then I really want to get into. It's also a bitch to set up.

it's also expensive as hell

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Riiiight, now I remember, especially because he tried to treat it as a big coming out thing when everyone already knew he was gay.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

UHD posted:

it's also expensive as hell

really? Like, $3k expensive or $15k expensive?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Boba Pearl posted:

This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*-

This seems like a pretty good reason to do it tbh

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Boba Pearl posted:

This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*- but it all seems uhhh... much more weird then I really want to get into. It's also a bitch to set up.

As long as your -*- gender feelings -*- don’t need to be explored by way of pretending to be an underage cartoon character to make money off of paedophiles it sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to do, tbh.

Bear Enthusiast
Mar 20, 2010

Maybe
You'll think of me
When you are all alone

Boba Pearl posted:

This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*- but it all seems uhhh... much more weird then I really want to get into. It's also a bitch to set up.

Like most things, the lovely people shouldn't get to ruin a cool concept. There's plenty of indie vtubers who are totally fine, and doing it for gender feelings sounds dope. Also you could be an anime or a robot or a bug or something.

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."

Boba Pearl posted:

This is all very concerning because I've been wanting to try vtubing to give me positive -*-gender feelings-*- but it all seems uhhh... much more weird then I really want to get into. It's also a bitch to set up.

Maybe try the thread in LP if you haven't already.
I looked in there at once and it seemed all right. No creepiness as far as I can tell (then again, I didn't read the entire thread and it was a while ago). And they might be able to help you with the technical side. If you still feel like doing it after all this poo poo from the past few days, that is.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Harrow posted:

CSPAM has a bunch of thread-specific IKs but only two full mods.

I am a former LF poster and a semi-regular CSPAM poster and I will volunteer to mod CSPAM on the condition that I'm allowed to close the Glenn thread and ban everyone in it.

I promise that I will never defend alvin porn or alvin porn defenders. I don't know what an offsite discord even is, so I cant accidentally get caught being an ironic secret nazi triple agent on one. That makes me better than the last several mods.

Nutmeg
Feb 8, 2004

Paladinus posted:



E: I'm not passing any judgements on ASMR streamers, but it is undeniable what attracts the majority of their audience.

lmfao i didnt know licking microphones was an ASMR thing. so loving gross

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
^^^ theres this NASTY subculture in ASMR that does specifically ear licking with this deranged fake eat they lick. it makes you want to be dead, not horny

i have a friend im eventually going to pay to make me a model thats just a silhouette a la MST3K so when i stream movies i can just be a little shadow pointing at things and wiggling from side to side. dont steal my idea, which is good

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UHD
Nov 11, 2006


pentyne posted:

really? Like, $3k expensive or $15k expensive?

it can be around that yeah

i've seen live2d art, just the art, go for around $4k. you still have to get it rigged so it'll actually move when you do. extra outfits cost extra. you can find artists that do it for cheaper but they'd be ripping themselves off - it's a shitload of work.

$15k is the realm of like mocap suits and stuff.

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