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guys we have a week to schedule our next drama, we need to get on this
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Snail Information posted:I'm almost afraid to ask. What name did you go with? we will put it up for a vote, democratically. Y'all want goosefleet, we'll do goosefleet. We wont unilaterally decide an alliance name. Also we won't buy an alliance anytime soon, its not needed. We can put goons into 20 Caracal Navy Issues for 1 bil
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Aug 31, 2020 04:44
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fyi, if you log off when you set autopilot, they can't warp scram you. Autopilot is OP. You'll get a push notification when you arrive. I was on a station and hit autowarp. Had 5 cruisers attacking me and had points on me, and still warped out. Logged off and made it to the next station.
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Aug 31, 2020 05:35
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ordering bot is back up for orders, come get your ships. Doing what I can to keep costs down and everyone shooting pixels again.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:38
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Remember to never stop posting
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Aug 31, 2020 16:45
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yeah if any corp wants to use the bot its fine, the proceeds will be used for subsidizing ships for goons.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:50
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no one cares about a goon fuckers corp
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Aug 31, 2020 16:56
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Foehammer007 posted:but are you going to steal the wallet no I delegate people out for that. We don't do things in leadership but delegate
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Aug 31, 2020 16:57
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Is your thread not getting enough attention that you have to come get attention here?
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Aug 31, 2020 16:59
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Gonna repost this from the gas thread, info on how our economy works Hello Goons, I am KrisWolfe, your friendly Communist Means of Production Leader. Now that we have some room to breathe, here’s how we’re building ships, how you fit in, and the future vision. In short, goons need boats. Boats need to be built (or bought). Building boats requires resources (minerals & PI). Resources require isk & button pushing. The initial isk/materials for MEANS was donated by me, KrisWolfe, knowing that goons would need a strong economy when the game started. We didn’t expect valador to implode so quickly, but we began building an economy for goons from the game’s beginning. All isk and materials left over from ship sales to pubbies or donations go to paying the 3 Roles, acquiring building resources, & building more ships. In the interest of transparency, Ihave recorded every transaction in google worksheets for any goon to see where every penny of isk and tax is going into the goon economy. Goons Need Boats Duh. Boats Need Built (or Bought) Somehow, we have to get our hands on boats. We can build boats internally cheaper than we can buy them, so we built a process to build boats. That process is MEANS. Building Boats Requires Resources. -Minerals can be bought off the market or mined from asteroids in the game -PI can be bought off the market, or they can be made through the Planetary Interaction that every player in the game can make passive. You pick a planet, it makes the goods, and shoots it into space when you’re ready to pick it up. The 3 roles exist in Means of Production to acquire Minerals & PI for two reasons: 1. Make MEANS self-sufficient so as NOT to rely on Goon donations. 2. Those that enjoy industry can have fun, and get paid to do it. Getting resources isn’t fun for everybody, so Goons shouldn’t have to slave over minerals if they don’t want to. The first role is the Trader/Hauler. To buy minerals/PI on the market, you can place a buy order. Every buy order comes with a broker fee, which trading skills reduce. It starts at 8% and maxing accounting, advanced accounting, and expert accounting gets you down to 5%. Example: I’m charged 8% to put out a buy order for Tritanium for $10. That means, I’m actually paying $10.80. If we’re just buying resources off the market, we’re agreeing to LOSE 8% of our entire economy. I’d rather put 8% towards creating ships for you to lose AFK ratting. This is where Trader/Haulers come in. Trader/Haulers arrange SELL orders with resource supplier pubbies. WE PAY ZERO FEES TO ACCEPT SELL ORDERS. The seller pays the fee. These sell orders also cost less than the buy orders. Sell orders = cheaper & NO FEES. Trader/Haulers just put the 8% back into the goon economy. The Trader/Hauler will usually have a cash budget from Means and will go out and get these buy orders. You can see the entire economy from anywhere in the game. You can be in VFK and purchase goods in Jita. There’s hundreds of small sell orders from players putting their small personal stock on the market for cheap, and Trader/Haulers will view our spreadsheet to see what we need and go out and purchase those sell orders, collect them up, and bring them to Amarr, our base of operation. Once there, the hauler will contract the goods that we need at either Average Price that we have acquired all of our goods, which updates in real time, or if they want to give and donate to the goon economy, they can sell for cheaper or to donate. The individual goon will grow their own isk by the difference in those two prices that they sold to us and they acquired, and this will help fuel ships for the economy, as you just allowed us to get those goods for cheaper than if we had done a buy order. Next up is the miner. I hope I don’t have to explain this very much, but we will have mining ops where goons can go and mine, or you can mine on your own and refine. You then haul it to Amarr and contract at the average price that we have, bringing isk into your own wallet. Lastly for the good acquisition, is the goon who does import/exporting. There are corporations and individual mineral suppliers out there with VOLUMES of goods, waiting to flip for a profit. Your job is to go out there and negotiate good contract prices for us. This can literally be done without playing the game, since it’s mostly through discord. Eventually, these sales goons will get commissions once we figure out how much this is growing the economy, but for now we have them run missions while negotiating large mineral deals. These goons are also in charge of sales. There are a large number of corporations that need ships to ram into each other and blow up, so that they need even more ships. We need goon whisperers in their ears, telling them we can make 150x coercer II’s in a day (we can and did). Be a closer. Whales Playing Pokemon There are also individual “whales” out there that just wanna dump $1000 into the game and have the best ship. There are 7 faction frigates currently available to be built, and these whales wanna collect them all. We need people out there looking for them and to get them to buy from us. (We also sell to goons). All three roles did their job, now what? So, we have all these minerals and PI in Amarr, and we spent a bunch of isk to get it all. What do we do with that $10 that we acquired? Blueprints Every ship in this game is a 1-run blueprint. You cannot have permanent blueprints. How do we acquire blueprints? It’s through Invention. When you go mission running or ratting, your enemies will drop Wrecks...each one is a different level and value. There are also Datacores out there from encounters that need to be looted. Invention works by combining the wrecks and datacores into a blueprint, with a chance for failure. This chance for failure will decrease as you skill into it, and each faction/race has a different skill. So how can you help acquire blueprints? Even if you’re not in Means, you can sell the wrecks/datacores to us! This will help decrease the cost of acquiring a blueprint, since our only other option is to buy them off the market, and they can be expensive. This is where our science Goons shine in our Goon Economy. We get all these wrecks/datacores, and we make blueprints that we need to make ships. Using the MEANS of Production Once we have the blueprint and the minerals, it’s time to produce, which is what our producer goons are doing. The more you skill into production, the less it costs to make. The Material Efficiency starts at 150%, which is A LOT, and you can skill it down to a max of 95%, which is not a lot. So now I have $10 of materials ready to produce. But hang on, that $10 that cost the goon economy to build a ship is worth $20 on the market? Well guess what. The markup we charge is 10%, because we want to grow the goon economy. If I make 4 Mallers at $10, and sell to you at $10, I’m stuck at only being able to make 4 Mallers. But, if I sell at $11 to goons, with all the pubbies pushing their face against the glass being pissed they have to buy at $20, then every sale will grow the goon economy. After we sell 10 Mallers, we can make 5 Mallers. You get into cheap boats, and we grow our ability to acquire more resources to build more boats. Imagine a snowball, cause that’s what we’re doing. With more goon economy, we can have more ships being produced constantly, and we can destroy our enemies by throwing ships at them all day. Supply chains win wars. An Alternative We can sell to goons at cost. But the other corps will have to donate to the goon economy in order to snowball. The economy cannot grow if we sell at cost without external forces, so this is also a viable option. The problem is that contracts cost 8% of the isk being transferred, or if its minerals and contracted for free, will lock the resource from being used for however many hours. (Moving 150x Coercer II’s to a hangar to contract out costs 13 hours of lockdown, split your stacks before moving). That is how Means of Production works. Sometimes it's boring, sometimes it's exciting, sometimes you can land that fat whale and double the size of our economy. I can’t promise exciting gameplay, but if you want to be a cog in our war machine, please apply today!
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Aug 31, 2020 17:05
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Also fyi, over the weekend since Goons have been ordering from us we built 79 space ships, plus the 150x Coercer II's that Pharnakes used tax dollars on.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:13
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at the end of the day, the original eve online had dozens of goon corps before goonfleet took off. There doesn't need to be a single goon corp, goons can go wherever they choose to go. There doesn't need to be drama about a true goon group, because that's not how things works out. Let goons go where they wanna go. We have a leadership now that has experience in running large corporations in multiple games, and we've brought hilarious shenanigans stomping on nazis in other games. I can promise we will be bringing that content to whoever wants to work with us.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:45
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I wonder if I can build another 150x coercer II's by the weekend
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Aug 31, 2020 19:15
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I just want to kick anyone that gets super heated and pissed off about socialist branding. Like that shouldn't be a thing for leadership of Goons. My entire goal is to piss off pubbies with us being a bunch of socialists. Its glorious drama.
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Aug 31, 2020 19:58
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Radio Free Kobold posted:i don't even know what the goal is! piss off chuds and nazis and build a home for goons
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Aug 31, 2020 20:57
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if I wanted to quit I would just hand everything and my wallet over to someone, and the spreadsheets. It's just loving pixels people
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Aug 31, 2020 22:01
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most of the work is tech 6 related, and we're having trouble finding people who can run tech 6 blueprints...it's basically just me. I let others run tech 5 or below as much as possible.
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Aug 31, 2020 22:34
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so our dear leader just used our alliance name as a corp name. Jazz lied pubbies died
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Aug 31, 2020 23:38
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I'm gonna take a large courageous stance here and endorse Means of Production
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Sep 1, 2020 04:34
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grover haus vs goosefleet, this weeks drama. Watch it tear us apart as goons can't decide which one to be in. This leadership failed again
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Sep 1, 2020 04:48
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Theres always tomorrow
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Sep 2, 2020 02:05
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Can easily build stealth bomers atm. There wasn't high demand so we focused on cruisers.
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Sep 2, 2020 19:19
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spreadsheet is fixed, for all the means folks. also prices dropped, check the channels for prices. Bot will be up whenever my internet gets fixed at the apartment. The installation went poorly and the wiring is all jacked.
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Sep 3, 2020 15:04
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This weekend pretty much all destroyers will be free, once we get the corps out of debt. Hoping next week all caracals/omens will be free.
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Sep 3, 2020 17:26
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let the tears begin to flow
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Sep 3, 2020 20:10
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hey all, I have internet back up again. Assuming we don't meltdown in the next two days, we're gonna have our first Pondering with this leadership on Saturday, 4pm eastern time US, 8 pm UTC (I'm p sure) We're gonna discuss what we want to do with this alliance, the directions we want to take, where we want to take residence, what we want to use taxes for, and how we can maximize pubbie tears (I have some ideas). We'll record it for whoever's not in attendance. Khris Kruel fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sep 4, 2020 00:24
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since no one said they were recording, here is a copy of the speech I gave today for anyone not around. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cdo9Cz70FHlr5K1b_otrFr2f-E1WDHeM_Qisv58W3uY/edit?usp=sharing
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Sep 5, 2020 21:48
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I divested of plex two days ago. Turned 50 mil isk into 200 mil
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Sep 6, 2020 07:04
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I maxed out on chips and the duo clone for the 75 sp per min and it honestly helps alot. But since not alot of people did that I'll be all alone in tech 7 building battlecruisers for myself for awhile.
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Sep 7, 2020 00:04
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MikoLovesYou posted:You haven’t fully hung up your hat yet? Well for a week I was the only tech 6 producer. Everyones caught up now so I've been stepping back on cruisers. But when tech 7 pops ill probably be the only one capable for a week or two.
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Sep 7, 2020 03:05
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Zabba51 posted:I'm familiar and more than willing to wait as needed. Played EO previously through a sponsorship so I never had a SA account previously. Enjoyed the group when I was in EO hence the interest in EE. we're looking for people who enjoy SA culture, which means posting and being apart of our culture. Biding your time won't help you.
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Sep 7, 2020 23:52
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Our production Corp is now proving free ships up to tier 5, so there’s no better time to play a cool game with some friends, the goons. and tier 6 at cost
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Sep 8, 2020 00:32
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Yes, we have an auth team and its manual auth, so people empty posting in this thread for gdn won't be getting in.
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Sep 8, 2020 13:17
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Rigel posted:I'm still confused about why prior leadership thought we'd flee from "political correctness" and space socialism. They just couldn't read the room. I told them multiple times they were confused and didn't realize what goons wanted, but they double downed and thought ya'll wanted to be all inclusive for all political ideologies
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Sep 9, 2020 01:29
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RooNe737 posted:I played this game for a few hours. It's pretty cool if you dont have access to the PC version of Eve Online. you can sell stuff for free at ITCs
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Sep 9, 2020 01:30
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So heads up, tomorrows patch notes are patching up the autopilot exploit. If you didn't know, if you activated autopilot, you could not be pointed. I tested this out in a Kryos, going from nullsec to nullsec station, being pointed by 10 neutrals, and I still escaped unharmed as long as I had autopilot up. We've had a bunch of caracals escape our clutches because they have autopilot ready to go. Alot of these pubbies will not be reading patch notes and still think autopilot is safe. So over the next few days get out there and get your kills before the pubbies realize they're not safe anymore.
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Sep 9, 2020 23:46
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clearly we don't have enough work for dance in Means he has to spend his time blowing up Dramiels  Your lunch break may be legal, but its optional
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Sep 10, 2020 04:14
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I just don't understand why they think they should have the ability to fly through nullsec untouched. I don't have alot of sympathy for them...none of this changes anything in lowsec or highsec, so all their mission content is untouched Also lol at us destroying a miner as griefing.
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we have diplomats, we just want to blow people up before befriending them. If the chinese corps become a large hassle and hinder us from moving forward in tribute, we'll reach out to them and work out something. For now have fun blowing them up.
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