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floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I wonder if the 'shared local work spaces' - so not at home but also not commuting - business might get a big uptick?

Back when I was freelancing there was one of these places just around the corner from my house. I did consider it because I eventually started to miss the minor social interactions of office life, but I never looked into it properly because I figured, I already have all my stuff setup here and I need specific and not terribly portable equipment to do my work so I couldn't really lug it to the shared office and back every day.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Most efficient (cost effective) small portable electric heater - any recommendations?

Ed: deleted all that because what I really meant was 'low wattage' and I just remembered that skirting heaters and greenhouse heaters with low watts are available.

You can see what I deleted in quotes by others if you really want to!

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 1, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

As far as I'm aware there isn't much variety in how efficiently you can convert electricity to heat, because literally everything does that as a byproduct, if it's not making a noise or glowing or doing anything else useful, it's converting electricity to heat, so they're all probably the same in terms of efficiency. So your main choice is probably how much you want to spend to have it not melt or set your house on fire.

I'd probably suggest that extra insulation is the easiest option, as well as limiting the amount of space you're heating, which in my case translates to living in a blanket with a hot water bottle.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Sep 1, 2020

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

As far as I'm aware there isn't much variety in how efficiently you can convert electricity to heat, because literally everything does that as a byproduct, if it's not making a noise or glowing or doing anything else useful, it's converting electricity to heat, so they're all probably the same in terms of efficiency. So your main choice is probably how much you want to spend to have it not melt or set your house on fire.

I guess what I should have added then is the temperature profile - ie does the temperature profile on the thermostat vary by 2-3 degrees or .5 degree or some such.

While I'm musing - wondering how much extra heating from heaters people are using to make up for the loss of heating from incandescent light bulbs?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
buy a high end gaming computer like me - that way I can pump out up to 700w of heat when I'm feeding in Apex.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Most efficient (cost effective) small portable electric heater - any recommendations?

I seriously do not want my electricity bill to hit the heady heights of last winter and there is definitely a nip in the air now.
My flat and all round here is all electric, no gas supply. In my last flat I had gas central & water heating and the cost of winter gas + other electric use -lights etc - was on a par with my all electric heating in this new flat despite new flat being half the gross internal area and me being stingy with the heating.

I have two new wired in electric convection heaters with timer switches etc which the sellers put in and I don't think replacing them with storage heaters would be the answer (as in payback would be a decade at least).

I did look at portable gas heater - I had a really nice one once before - but they're quite big and the cost of 4x15kg cylinders of butane to take me through winter would be the same as the extra electric is costing (plus of course the cost of the heater itself let alone condensation and all that bother).

Other pertinent facts:

My main living area is about 12sqm. I do have night/day meters and as soon as I finish my existing contract (next spring) I want to go on a single rate as I just do not have the night usage to cover the increased day unit cost. It's just the fridge overnight and the hot water cylinder if I choose to put it on but that's only 2 kWh to heat up.

search 'delonghi oil radiator'

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Guavanaut posted:

He's changed his tune then.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/abbott-hits-out-at-new-push-on-euthanasia-laws-20070129-ge43fr.html

As soon as it started costing money as well, funny that.

No, it's perfectly consistent. If you want to die, you're not allowed to. If you don't want to, you have to.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Most efficient (cost effective) small portable electric heater - any recommendations?

OwlFancier posted:

As far as I'm aware there isn't much variety in how efficiently you can convert electricity to heat, because literally everything does that as a byproduct, if it's not making a noise or glowing or doing anything else useful, it's converting electricity to heat, so they're all probably the same in terms of efficiency. So your main choice is probably how much you want to spend to have it not melt or set your house on fire.

I'd probably suggest that extra insulation is the easiest option, as well as limiting the amount of space you're heating, which in my case translates to living in a blanket with a hot water bottle.
Reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jmSjy2ArM

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

From the replies:

https://twitter.com/PatrickBHenry/status/1300781496287006720

My god, the Labour Party is "full to the brim" with people who prioritise socialism?!? (I wish it was, tbh...)

What is the Labour Party meant to prioritise in government?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
OK ok, my very sloppy use of language. I guess what I really meant was 'low wattage' - just for background heating. I really don't want a 2kW heater for background.

Just remembered about skirting heaters and greenhouse heaters so shall investigate those.

Don't @me for forgetting all my science when it comes to real life. Mea culpa stupida.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Sep 1, 2020

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

CGI Stardust posted:

Actually,
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1299748424313602049?s=19

(full article is here but paywall and lol if i'm paying to read Rentoul)

"The invisible hand of the free market will push everyone back to offices" Says man being paid by landlords to try and stop everyone realising they can save loads of money not travelling an hour to work every day.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Gonzo McFee posted:

"The invisible hand of the free market will push everyone back to offices" Says man being paid by landlords to try and stop everyone realising they can save loads of money not travelling an hour to work every day.

From his desk at home.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He never specified exactly how the invisible hand worked, specifically it gives him an invisible handie until he writes articles supporting that position.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

OK ok, my very sloppy use of language. I guess what I really meant was 'low wattage' - just for background heating. I really don't want a 2kW heater for background.

Just remembered about skirting heaters and greenhouse heaters so shall investigate those.

Don't @me for forgetting all my science when it comes to real life. Mea culpa stupida.
Those personal heaters he mentions in the video seem good for low wattage heating.

He does raise a valid point about thermostat controls too, the heater is always going to be hotter than the room, so a thermostat on the heater body, whether it's a fine tuned digital one or a simple bimetallic strip will always shut off too soon. You want a thermostat away from the heater. Something like this.

re: incandescent lights, I remember during winter we'd put the big light on in the bedroom an hour before bed and it made a significant difference, especially in the single glazing days. A 40W bulb on all the time is enough to keep water from freezing in a shed too (depends on the type obviously, but just as a general observation). Even older, more terrible sources of light are even better heaters, I had a big Aladdin oil lamp in the front room when I first moved in here and the boiler was terrible.

Everything they make better in winter they'd make worse in summer though.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

Those personal heaters he mentions in the video seem good for low wattage heating.

He does raise a valid point about thermostat controls too, the heater is always going to be hotter than the room, so a thermostat on the heater body, whether it's a fine tuned digital one or a simple bimetallic strip will always shut off too soon. You want a thermostat away from the heater. Something like this.

re: incandescent lights, I remember during winter we'd put the big light on in the bedroom an hour before bed and it made a significant difference, especially in the single glazing days. A 40W bulb on all the time is enough to keep water from freezing in a shed too (depends on the type obviously, but just as a general observation). Even older, more terrible sources of light are even better heaters, I had a big Aladdin oil lamp in the front room when I first moved in here and the boiler was terrible.

Everything they make better in winter they'd make worse in summer though.

Yeah maybe I should just get a couple of 'rough service' light bulbs from the hardware store instead :)
I can see I have to do more investigating. My head aches I need a nana nap.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

OK ok, my very sloppy use of language. I guess what I really meant was 'low wattage' - just for background heating. I really don't want a 2kW heater for background.

Just remembered about skirting heaters and greenhouse heaters so shall investigate those.

Don't @me for forgetting all my science when it comes to real life. Mea culpa stupida.

Have you considered getting a metal barrel and starting a fire in it?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jose posted:

Have you considered getting a metal barrel and starting a fire in it?

I believe the popular term for that is "the government"

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

He never specified exactly how the invisible hand worked, specifically it gives him an invisible handie until he writes articles supporting that position.
No you see he's such a devilish rogue, he's reached 3rd level and can subclass into Arcane Trickster, therefore gaining mage hand as a cantrip, along with the ability to make it invisible and control it as a bonus action. :eng101:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Miftan posted:

I believe the popular term for that is "the government"

That requires a dumpster that I don't think she'll be able to fit into her home

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Arcane Trickster
That's an anagram of Arse crack Tinter, which is a better class for John Rentoul's skidmark articles.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


In the UK it's a wheelie bin fire, surely.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I remember when kids put a bunch of fire crackers and petrol in the dog poo poo bin and it blew the top off the bin and there was scorched dog poo poo everywhere and then the plastic bin burned until there was nothing but a melted plastic wreck on a concrete post and a pile of charred poo poo underneath it.

That's the government.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Ferrosol posted:

:jerkbag: it means wanking

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)

Nah it's crack, like a whip. Kw-chhh.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Comrade Fakename posted:

Someone make sure to save Breath Ray's poo poo posting just in case he actually runs.

youd... doxx me?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)
*me, wanking normally*

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Ferrosol posted:

:jerkbag: it means wanking

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Am I stuck in a 10 minute Groundhog Day about wanking or am I having a stroke? :pervert:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

*me, wanking normally*


haha wank machine goes brrr

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yeah maybe I should just get a couple of 'rough service' light bulbs from the hardware store instead :)
I can see I have to do more investigating. My head aches I need a nana nap.

Why don't you try one of those Japanese heated tables?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotatsu

Could rig one with a small heater and a blanket. You wouldn't even need that much wattage because of the insulation.

Edit - or get a bitcoin mining rig and make money while keeping warm :circlefap:

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
On the BBC note from earlier in the day, Amol Rajan has a column for the BBC where he idly muses on - among other things - the potential for Pigfucker to become the next Chairman of the BBC. Because the last couple of appointments have been Tory stooges.

He also acknowledges that the new stooge appointed to be Director-General is also a Tory, but massively downplays the fact, saying merely that the person who could fire him at a moment's notice had a "minor" role.

Thanks, BBC Media Editor Amol Rajan. Incisive commentary. In the words of your article "abolish the TV license".

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

stev posted:

Nah it's crack, like a whip. Kw-chhh.

How about 'crack' like one of those 3D puzzles.

Get all the bits of your penis in the right position and a wank comes out

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
so ignoring whether or not its a stupid idea is it actually possible for me to get any money from my pension because that £11.5k would be extremely useful rn

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Skeletome posted:

Crank one out, surely. You don't "crack" out a wank like your penis is a christmas cracker or a fortune cookie (i hope)
*me, wanking normally*

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Borrovan posted:

*me, wanking normally*


haha wank machine goes brrr

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
What's that? It's a new thread? Finally, it's autumn (according to the deep state :tinfoil:), the madness of Covid-19 has subsided and we can look forward to some normalcy...


...oh no. [Source: Imperial College Department of We're All hosed]

So after school closure and a half arsed lockdown we've followed that first part of the green curve pretty much exactly, and despite large protests in London against a second wave, SARS-CoV-2 has not yet issued a response.


(thanks NotJustANumber99)

Which means these may be seeing a new round of importance soon:
Find Your Local COVID-19 Mutual Aid Group - or set one up
Also check:
https://freedomnews.org.uk/covid-19-uk-mutual-aid-groups-a-list/
https://secretldn.com/uk-community-aid-groups-by-area/
https://queercare.network/our-work/resources/covid-19/


In Other News :sax:
• The Conservatives are attempting to undermine the Electoral Commission for what can surely only be legitimate reasons.
• The Office for National Statistics reports that Britain's GDP fell by 20.4% in the second quarter of 2020, the biggest quarterly decline since records began in 1955, and the worst economic figure of any G7 nation. Sacrificing the care homes for the highest excess deaths to save the economy really worked well.
• Ofqual. You know what happened there. It was an algorithm.
• Scientists identify the earliest person known to have been infected by the coronavirus within the UK, a 75-year-old woman from Notts, who tested positive on 21 February.
• Plans for an RAF station on Anglesey to use Llanbedr airfield in Gwynedd to train Saudi pilots to do war crimes have now been 'formally paused.'
• Britain First is invading hotels housing refugees, and unlike the migrant boats the press is actually ignoring it.
• Sir Ed Davey Cameron Fan is selected as the next leader of the Liberal Democrats, with 63.5% of votes.
• Other news still cancelled due to Coronavirus.

Me, wanking normally, 2020

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
have... have i got covid

am i having one of those covid dreams

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
so ignoring whether or not its a stupid idea is it actually possible for me to get any money from my pension because that £11.5k would be extremely useful rn

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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

thespaceinvader posted:

I can understand this. Even I'm starting to get fed up with the level of precautions I'm taking, and I'm probably among the most paranoid regular posters about this stuff - but I'm also panicking about going back into work for like 2 hours tomorrow (probably pointlessly, as they've already acknowledged that they probably don't need me in in person for the foreseeable future).
Yea, I feel like I'm the only one of my friends that isn't going out to pubs again and I'm starting to feel like a bit of a paranoid loon by refusing every single time somebody asks if I want to go out for a drink.

Jose posted:

so ignoring whether or not its a stupid idea is it actually possible for me to get any money from my pension because that £11.5k would be extremely useful rn
According to this educational gif I've just seen you can just crack one out 11.5k times instead

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