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^^^^^Lol, these are supposed to be people with wisdom and taste?DesperateDan posted:I'm also in the "quit labour and has been telling anyone who will listen to quit too" gang and have been for awhile so maybe someone could also remove me from the list of clp members thanks in advance Probably too late if you've been giving out this advice but tell people to join other political groups actually doing things other than internal infighting/elections with their money and time. namesake fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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The World Transformed is kicking off tonight, through zoom sessions over the month so while it's still really Labour Party focused it seems the sort of thing people might want to tune into for some of the sessions.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've had foiye dtonks That's numberwang!
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Jose posted:Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters Those people were always idiots though.
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Sep 7, 2020 17:04
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thespaceinvader posted:TROOOOOOOOOTS I'm going to beat ronya to this post but there are a great number of campaigns which have had notable Trot involvement in the latter half of last century so any 50 or 60 year old person who picked up their politics to a reasonable level in the first half of their life will definitely be wondering how Trot filled any particular leftwing group will be.
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Continuity RCP posted:If you're going to have any number of socialists involved in something you're going to have trots because this is Britain and our main products in the last half of the 20th century were bad cars and trots Jesus if only we'd produced as many people happy to talk about Marxism as we did Ford Escorts.
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teacup posted:can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? Hello Mr Abbott, we were rather hoping that's the sort of thing your briefings would cover
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Sep 7, 2020 22:55
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Jose posted:Get fat now so you can lose it all then You made this suggestion last time and I think COVID 19 has demonstrated that all that does is make you more vulnerable to other predators.
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Sep 8, 2020 18:13
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Bobstar posted:Sir Faceman once again getting mad at the Tories for not Torying hard enough, while dodging an opportunity to be legally forensic, and angering remainers He's a bad rightwing politician, which is exactly the sort of person the ruling class want running the Labour Party. PMQs tomorrow might be worth watching for once actually because it'll really show what, if anything, Starmer cares about and is capable of.
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Sep 8, 2020 18:31
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Maybe this is the 5 dimensional chess thinking way out of chlorinated chicken? Bravo Boris. I'd assume that Ireland, having had something resembling governance over the last few years, has been making political inroads to the USA and maybe even China in the same way it did the rest of the EU to make sure that there's much stronger political understanding and at least tacit agreement that things should go the way Ireland wants.
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Sep 9, 2020 22:20
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Right wing comedy is definitely possible but the easiest jokes are the vicious ones and so that is most of the routines. A right wing comedy not based on bigotry can exist but it needs to be self aware a little bit - I truly believe the UK is the truly fairest society in the world, where everyone is free to work their hardest and earn their rightful place in society. Just take the royal family, for example. That is a rightwing republican joke but it won't be said by the right because it requires believing in a specific doctrine and seeing that the world doesn't line up with it, then making it humorous which is a huge part of comedy. The right wing absolutely could attack the monopolistic nature of the press and how it limits free speech - You can't say anything these days... unless you can convince Rupert Murdoch to pay you for it. Again it's just observing reality, noting how it doesn't align with a principle and then making fun of it.
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Those kids had better really loving learn a lot in the 5 weeks of attending school they're going to get this year. I'm talking PhD level papers and Mozart symphonies coming out of these 7 year olds. vvv lol I'd forgotten that was a thing. Are we still a 3? namesake fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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England and Wales get it in a week and a half apparently - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54118022 Just in time for a complete lock down lol.
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crispix posted:loving hell that's ridiculous lol Corruption basically. The first contracts winning proposal was technically impossible and illegal under data laws which was known when it was awarded but the Tories wanted to give a few million to the person 'running' the company so they did it anyway, got legally challenged over it, then they admitted it was impossible and went with the Apple/Google method under a new contract.
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It would be extremely funny to have Corbyn but not Starmer, so there's always that chance right?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've heard, reliable source (ex MP), tomorrow's govt covid meeting is discussing a 9pm curfew. Sage want it, ministers don't. Curfews seem bad for a lot of reasons but wouldn't one of the major problems be that you're going to herd people together out of sight? How is people out on the street a problem?
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Yes I reckon the rural community with a incredibly potent apple based alcohol and an absolutely poo poo ton of weird holy sites and magic is based on Lancashire and not Somerset and Wiltshire. I am very smart. namesake fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 23:39
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Too protective of Pratchett inspiration claims perhaps? You can either pick Scotland from the Macbeth parody or Somerset and Wiltshire from most of the specific cultural elements used. You can't just meet halfway and say it's Lancashire.
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OwlFancier posted:Someone should do a national strategy. Someone should have a plan but not Labour's plan, we can't advocate for that.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1306280491893616643?s=19 The Adult Baby rebellion is off.
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Never trust a Morris. Morrissey, Van Morrison, Morris Minor, all terrible.
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The positive side of everything being awful and impossible to reform is that it's also falling apart so core change is inevitable and you've just got to force the change to go how you want.
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crispix posted:Has anyone tried using seaweed as a covid test? Just you find old people who swear by it to predict or determine all manner of things like it turns a colour if a storm's a comin or it gets goosebumps if there are... evil vapours and that Excellent question Mrs Harding, it just so happens that the answer is 'yes' and I have several tons of seaweed 'tests' I can provide to your testing centres. I'll email you my banking details and we're arrange delivery.
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Melissa McCarthyism posted:What exactly is the rule of 6 (At least in Northern Ireland)? I just found out there is a police function booked for my work for 50 people which doesn't seem right? Anything done within work environments or organised sport is exempt from the rule of 6. 'The Rule of Six' is the name of a oligarchy in a fictional novel. Prove me wrong.
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Jedit posted:So Jewdas want the Labour Party to become Tories. Right. That's quite a clear dig that from the moment they lost the Remain movement either did no self reflection whatsoever or waited until Corbyn was gone and apparently then it's right to leave and all that can be done is making sure we leave well.
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radmonger posted:To people in this thread genuinely think that Labour could have won the Brexit election of 2019 with a policy of ‘err, I dunno?’ The policy that had Labour at 19% in the polls, 3rd behind the LDs? There probably wasn't any way Labour could win in 2019 without going back in time several years and playing a very different game both internally and externally, meaning it's a fantasy counterfactual at best (Given the pandemic that's probably a good thing in retrospect at this moment in time). That doesn't mean the sub groups of Labour and external enemies who pretended to stand for things while sabotaging ways of achieving those things or abandoning them once their actual objectives have been met deserve anything but total scorn when they claim to be worth listening to.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It sucks, but I'd rather say my vote went towards not actively making the world even shitter for disabled and vulnerable people than maintaining some privelaged ideological purity. lol it really is 2013-14 again. Lesser evilism is completely dead as an effective political argument in the UK, you're instead seeing apathy and separatism as the major response to 'well at least we aren't the other major party' as a key argument. Just accept that voting for either of the major parties won't help those in need and start thinking about what will and acting accordingly.
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Lungboy posted:I don't get the lack of support for shielders. I understand there are worries about their mental health if they are forced to shield again, but why not give them the choice? Let the shielders decide whether to shield and give them the support of food deliveries or safety from sacking at work if they take up the offer The government doesn't know how to do anything except give millions to businesses and hope that they fail to deliver on a timeframe long enough that people don't notice.
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OwlFancier posted:Also Boris Todbringer which would also be apt albeit not in the initially intended meaning. Boris Toddlerleaver surely?
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I was pleasantly surprised the other morning to see the headline of 'Labour criticises replacement for furlough scheme' on the BBC and even happier to see they were putting forward a counter proposal but I'm really struggling to find out what that counter proposal is. The only thing I can find is 'It would enable businesses in key sectors to bring back more staff on reduced hours, with government subsidising a proportion of wages for the rest of the working week' but I can't find any more details beyond that. That's also currently the Tory proposal minus the business contributing to hours not worked pay as well. Is the Labour proposal to argue about the exact percentages of the Tory scheme or to let the business off paying any excess to the worker at all and the government taking on that burden?
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minema posted:On a related note I was wondering about how NHS should use the app. Obviously we're close to covid patients but we are usually aware of their status and take precautions, but on the wards it's impossible to socially distance from colleagues all the time and if one of the physios I work with tested positive the app would definitely tell me to isolate. I assume you can't see when or where you interacted with a positive person so should I disable it at work to avoid false alarms? You can disable the proximity sensor and it recommends you do so when you're at work if you're dealing with likely infected patients. Also they recommend turning it off at home so your neighbours who you never see don't trigger your app.
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Cefte posted:I recognise that this is probably going over well trodden ground, but I do find myself wondering daily how, in the event of a Corbyn landslide, the red tops would be reporting news stories like this: The initial lock down restrictions would have been resisted violently under a Corbyn government as the papers decried the life and economy saving measures being put in place as Stalinism. I know it in my bones. Amazingly it seems the problem would have been with protecting the economy too well as the corrupt tendering process for medical technology and heavily biased business support schemes the Tories have launched are getting a much better response from the press while they're quite happy with all the restrictions of individual freedom. Also what have people seen and heard about the various anti-lockdown demonstrations taking place or have seen others write on it? I understand it's general conspiracy theory/Qanon crowds with lots of anti-vaccination stuff going around as well but I'd be pretty keen to know more about what the main UK themes are but really don't want to dive into the community and see it for myself. namesake fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:Would there have necessarily been a lockdown under Corbyn? Considering the science properly and looking at what other islands and effectively islands like Taiwan and South Korea did, lockdown could have been shifted to the points of entry, rather than internally. SK initially had lockdown procedures for sure and the proximity and relationship with Europe would definitely have meant we couldn't just replicate Taiwan just like that. Once there's a government order to wear masks and stay home or close pubs or whatever then it's off to the races.
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minema posted:Two weeks ago on Monday our hospital had 4 covid patients, we now have 4 wards full of covid patients and have run out of beds for them. A&E has 40 patients who need admission to hospital. At the biggest peak last time A&E had about 5 patients in it at once and they had plenty of empty beds. They'll just cancel everything non-covid and non-cancer again. Hospitals have been allowed to do private work for months and the nightingales are still sort of available so reverting back to April strategy will mean things are somewhat managable in bed terms. Staff terms on the other hand are going to be even worse unless people are drafted in again but even moreso than last time.
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stev posted:Yeah there's no films out. I reckon there would be a small market for showing very old classics that many of todays adult film buffs wouldn't have had the chance to see in a cinema - Godfather, Alien, original Star Wars, etc. With a lot of outreach to those communities then there could be some income getting raised but I imagine those films are still expensive to get and so getting the numbers in to make it worthwhile isn't something the company thinks is worth doing.
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Yeah I didn't think that just putting Alien on at 1pm, 5pm and 7pm would pull huge crowds, that's why I said with a lot of outreach. Something like getting some PR people to contact various UK sci-fi clubs or whatever, seeing if there are bases of fans where the cinemas are and then getting them to commit to a particular viewing or schedule so the cinema isn't selling individual tickets anymore, it's basically renting the screen to a group of people. Put social distancing on the seats so they aren't breaking any rules officially and it's probably permitted. Quite a lot of work for uneven returns, and they aren't doing it so obviously don't want to but it was an idea at least.
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