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I'll post my full list when I get home from work, but for all the bitching about EVIL'S title reign its surprising he doesn't have any Most Overrated votes yet.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, overrated and underrated long ago became 'over/underpushed'. Dave really needs to change the name because we keep having this same argument every year
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Alright enough teasing, here's my full list so far Category "A" Awards: You vote three times for these. Lou Thesz/Ric Flair "Wrestler of the Year" Award: 1. Jon Moxley 2. Kenny Omega 3. Tetsuya Naito Kenny has a very strong case as MRT laid out, but I think Mox has edged him out lately as his title reign gained steam -- he's had a consistent streak of excellent matches with compelling stories and absolutely brilliant finishes. And let's not forget his NJPW work, where he had some gloriously violent bouts with Archer and Suzuki. Most Outstanding Wrestler: 1. Kenny Omega 2. Shingo Takagi 3. Hiromu Takahashi That said, Kenny is still my pick for MOW. Phenomenal matches in both tags and singles, with his tag against the Bucks and the PAC Iron Man match being standouts. Shingo isn't far behind with a great NEVER run and still has the G1 to bolster his resume. Hiromu has standout matches with Ospreay, Ryu Lee, and easily the best match of EVIL's reign, plus he gets bonus points for dragging broken-rear end Honma to his best match in years. Tag Team of the Year: 1. Kenny Omega and Hangman Page 2. Dangerous Tekkers 3. Bayley and Sasha Banks The Bayley/Sasha act has been one of the few unironically great things on the main roster this year. Best on Interviews: 1. Eddie Kingston 2. Tazz 3. MJF AEW is so stuffed with amazing promos that I could stretch this out to a top 10 and still leave out deserving candidates. Giving the nod to King for finally getting his shot at the major leagues and loving knocking it out of the park. Tazz reminded us why he used to be one of the scariest men in wrestling (and one of the most witty -- "sloppy shop" is the mic drop of the year), and MJF has a Jericho-esque ability to just turn anything into gold. Promotion of the Year: 1. AEW 2. NJPW 3. NOAH Best Weekly TV Show: 1. AEW Dynamite 2. NJPW Strong AEW Dark Pro Wrestling Match of the Year: 1. Kenny Omega & Hangman Page vs. Young Bucks, AEW Revolution 2. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito, NJPW Wrestle Kingdom Night 2 3. Jon Moxley vs. Minoru Suzuki, NJPW New Beginning in Osaka People are kinda sleeping on that Mox/Suzuki match, but if you know anything about Moxley's style, which he famously and openly copied from Suzuki, then definitely go back and watch it. It's an absolute blast. Category "B" Awards: You vote once for these. US/Canada MVP: Jon Moxley Japan MVP: Tetsuya Naito Mexico MVP: Rey Fenix Europe MVP: PAC Non-Heavyweight MVP: Hiromu Takahashi Women's Wrestling MVP: Hikaru Shida Best Box Office Draw: Tetsuya Naito Feud of the Year: Hangman Page vs. The Elite Most Improved: Britt Baker Most Charismatic: Jon Moxley Bryan Danielson "Best Technical Wrestler" Award: Jon Moxley (SWERVE! People look at "technical wrestling" and automatically think of mat grapplefuckers like ZSJ, who will probably win for the 38th straight year. But there's way more to good technical wrestling than that specific style, and I think we need to expand our horizons a bit. Since leaving WWE, Mox has developed into a very sound all-around wrestler, incorporating some MMA stuff to go with his usual violent brawling. He's approached every match differently depending on the opponent, can adapt on the fly like few others, and knows exactly what to do in every spot. That's a loving great technical wrestler in my book Bruiser Brody Memorial "Best Brawler" Award: Jon Moxley (with all that said, he's still the best brawler on the planet, now merging his chaotic CZW background with a decade of major TV experience to get the most out of everything) Best Flying Wrestler: Sammy Guevara Most Overrated: The Fiend (I made the case for EVIL earlier, but his title reign was only 2 months and I doubt he'll hold it again any time soon. Meanwhile, Bray Wyatt's cringey film-student bullshit is a turd that just refuses to flush) Most Underrated: Lance Archer (his AEW run is one of the company's few legitimate missteps. Archer came in red-hot following a career resurgence in NJPW the year before, and they handled him perfectly on his initial push. But he hasn't really had any direction since losing to Cody, and while it's still fun to watch him murder jobbers, you can't help but think that his momentum has cooled off) Rookie of the Year: Abstain (I don't even know who's eligible this year. People have voted Ricky Starks who's been wrestling for like 7 years  )Best Non-Wrestler: Tazz Best Television Announcer: Tony Schiavone Worst Television Announcer: Michael Cole Best Major Wrestling Show: AEW Revolution Worst Major Wrestling Show: WWE Extreme Rules Best Wrestling Maneuver: Jon Moxley's Paradigm Shift Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic: Bushiroad stonewalling Kyoko Kimura in her investigation of Hama's death (I was gonna go with one of the million WWE things, but since this got brought up, it stands out as particularly cruel and heartless, especially when they told her to just make merch and sell it. Hana's death was preventable for many reasons, so the media company and TV studio that employed her essentially blowing it off is pretty heinous). Worst Television Show: WWE NXT (gonna avoid the obvious Raw/Smackdown answers and go after the show that used to be above it all, and is now just another main roster brand. Complete waste of time) Worst Match of the Year: Johnny Gargano vs. Tommaso Ciampa, One Final Beat (a complete mockery of what used to be the best feud in the company, and both wrestlers indulging their worst masturbatory habits to self-parody levels) Worst Feud of the Year: The Fiend vs. Braun Strowman Worst Promotion of the Year: WWE Best Booker: Tonh Khan Promoter of the Year: Tony Khan Best Gimmick: MJF Worst Gimmick: Master Wato Best Pro Wrestling Book: (space reserved for when the Voices of Wrestling NJPW review comes out later this year) Best Pro Wrestling DVD/Streaming Documentary: Dark Side of the Ring: Owen Hart Benne fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Sep 2, 2020 |
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KUSHIDA is so underrated people forgot to vote him Most Underrated
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Looks like Retribution has a lock on Worst Gimmick
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Lid posted:Yeah i had Naito on my shortlist for most overrated but what im hearing is all really good. Has Yujiro done anything to get him out of my Most Overrated spot? His feud with Okada was soul destroting to the degree that im not watching the G1 (alongside the reign of EVIL as 2020 Diesel). Yujiro has 0 wins in the G1 so far, he's nowhere close to "most overrated" or "most overpushed" or however you want to define that.
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Bray definitely deserves Most Overrated after dragging Alexa into his vortex of suck
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It's really incredible how WWE has so many Most Disgusting candidates that "Alexa Bliss gets assaulted by The Fiend and then falls in love with him" is barely even on the radar
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Jungle Boy won it last year when he clearly wasn't a rookie so who the gently caress even knows anymore
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I think GEORGE W BUSHI and Joe Lanza are the only people on planet Earth who watch Zero1
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I'm still leaning towards Revolution which has a big emotional connection to me, but that G1 show is a strong contender
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I'm gonna throw in with Rollins/Mysterio for Worst Feud Not only did it have the laughable Eye For An Eye match with the cartoon eyeball poking out, it didn't even end the feud -- they're still going like 5 months later and got into all kinds of stupid horseshit with Rey's dumbass son wrestling and Buddy Murphy hooking up with his barely-legal daughter.
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This is a really cool thing https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1330797146497544192
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Well we're heading into the home stretch, with Omega/Moxley coming up that could decide the WOTY race*. I'm still voting for Mox win or lose, but if that match lives up to expectations then he also needs some Most Outstanding love. His title reign has been defined by consistently great matches, all worked in a completely different way depending on his opponent and the story. This versatility is something I never expected out of him, even back when I was one of the hardest Dean Ambrose defenders. *(with apologies to NOAH stans, Go Shiozaki ain't winning WOTY -- realistically, it's been a two-man race since the summer. But a top 5 finish is very possible with the buzz his title matches have gotten) Benne fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Nov 28, 2020 |
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It's gonna go to Roman and we should probably stop pretending otherwise at this point. People are really into that Tribal Chief thing for whatever reason.
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Alright, I finally caught up with Go's title matches and they pretty much all lived up to the hype, so I feel confident enough to make final rankings and also decide that Naito can hit the fuckin bricks  Category "A" Awards: You vote three times for these. Lou Thesz/Ric Flair "Wrestler of the Year" Award: 1. Jon Moxley 2. Kenny Omega 3. Go Shiozaki Sticking with my top two from earlier in the year, as much as I liked Go's reign it didn't quite hit the emotional highs I felt with Mox, though that's obviously up for personal preference. And Omega was extremely consistent in both singles and tags, and ended the year with a fascinating inter-promotional angle where he's now popping ratings in two companies at the same time. Go has my respect, but not quite my love, if that makes sense. Most Outstanding Wrestler: 1. Kenny Omega 2. Go Shiozaki 3. Hiromu Takahashi Once again, Kenny barely takes this by a hair, as I prefer his more well-rounded resume. Shouts to Hiromu for dragging broken-rear end Honma to his best match in years, having easily the best match of EVIL's title reign, and a typically excellent BOSJ, capped off by the instant classic against Despy. Tag Team of the Year: 1. The Young Bucks 2. Kenny Omega & Hangman Page 3. Dangerous Tekkers After thinking on it I decided to flip to the Bucks, and not just because Cowboy Bebop broke up halfway through the year. They kept having quietly great matches throughout, and once it was time for their big title push they reminded us how incredible they truly are. These guys just have the best matches of everybody's career, and that was never more obvious than the FTR match -- FTR have kinda stunk in their AEW run, but their match with the Bucks was so great it made us forget about the crummy build and paid off years of anticipation, an absolute love letter to tag team wrestling. Love or hate them, Matt and Nick always deliver in the biggest spotlight. Best on Interviews: 1. Eddie Kingston 2. Jon Moxley 3. Taz Do I really have to list just three? It's been an awesome year of promos and I'm leaving off plenty of deserving candidates like Cody, MJF, Ricky Starks, Lance Archer, Britt Baker, Hiromu, and Naito (who I'm clowning on but dude had to work overtime to get over EVIL's reign and the dumb WK build). Promotion of the Year: 1. AEW 2. NOAH 3. NJPW Best Weekly TV Show: 1. AEW Dynamite 2. NJPW Strong 3. AEW Dark Pro Wrestling Match of the Year: 1. Young Bucks vs. Kenny Omega & Hangman Page, AEW Revolution 2. WALTER vs. Ilja Dragunov, NXT UK 10/29 3. Go Shiozaki vs. Takashi Suguira, NOAH The Best: Final Chronicle I'm as surprised as anyone that Okada/Naito got bumped from my top 3, but WALTER/Ilja was too loving amazing to leave off. I've never seen a match like that happen in a WWE ring, and we probably won't see that happen again. Just a special match. Meanwhile, I had to have a Go match on here, so I went with his most recent one which felt more like 15 minutes than 50, just insane pacing. Go really is something special, and Suguira is still a scary motherfucker in his 50s. And of course, I needed to keep the tag match No. 1, which has some added poignancy as one of the last wrestling shows with full crowds. Watching it again and seeing the reactions gives me new chills I didn't even have the first time I saw it. Category "B" Awards: You vote once for these. US/Canada MVP: Jon Moxley Japan MVP: Go Shiozaki Mexico MVP: Rey Fenix Europe MVP: WALTER Non-Heavyweight MVP: Hiromu Takahashi Women's Wrestling MVP: Yuka Sakazaki Best Box Office Draw: Tetsuya Naito Feud of the Year: Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston Most Improved: Britt Baker Most Charismatic: Eddie Kingston My God, what a force of personality Eddie is. His 2020 trajectory is insane when you look at the bigger picture -- here's this guy, a longtime indy favorite but mostly unproven at the major-league level, considered on the downswing of his career at age 39, booked for what was supposed to be a one-off match against Cody. He had nothing to lose but the microphone in his hand, which Best Booker Tony Khan boldly handed him at the start of a seemingly random Dynamite. And this bad motherfucker strutted onto TNT like he owned the joint, got signed on the spot, and main-evented a PPV four months later. That is charisma right there. Bryan Danielson "Best Technical Wrestler" Award: Jon Moxley I'm sick of voting for ZSJ so sticking with my galaxy-brain pick from earlier. Bruiser Brody Memorial "Best Brawler" Award: Jon Moxley Best Flying Wrestler: Rey Fenix Most Overrated: Bray Wyatt Most Underrated: Gran Metalik Rookie of the Year: Uh, Anna Jay I guess? Rey Mysterio's failson will probably win this by default. Best Non-Wrestler: Taz How many people saw this coming? Taz spent the better part of 20 years as an announcer, sometimes good, sometimes bad, never taken seriously. When AEW brought him in the general opinion was "oh, cool I guess," and he was mostly well-liked in that role. But when Taz became a regular on-screen character, a switch was flipped and he suddenly reminded everyone that he used to be the baddest man in wrestling -- spitting fire on the mic every week, recruiting a team of Big Beefy Bois in his image (more on that), and even hitting a Tazmission on Cody for good measure. Taz loving rules, and it hurts that we never got this version of him while he could still wrestle. Best Television Announcer: Tony Schiovane Worst Television Announcer: Michael Cole Best Major Wrestling Show: AEW Full Gear Worst Major Wrestling Show: WWE THE HORROR SHOW at Extreme Rules Best Wrestling Maneuver: Paradigm Shift/Death Rider Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic: WWE continuing to promote and feature people named in #SpeakingOut In my last list I cited Bushiroad's treatment of Kyoko Kimura, and while that's still appalling and scummy, it's not really a "promotional tactic," so going with this instead. Worst Television Show: WWE Raw Worst Match of the Year: Randy Orton vs. Edge, WrestleMania 36 I've gone back and forth on this a lot, but in the end, I'm settling for the complete wet fart of Edge's return. This match never loving ended, was boring as hell, had the very uncomfortable spot of Orton hanging Edge on gym equipment just a week after the Vice Benoit doc aired, and was so poorly received they had to brand the rematch THE GREATEST WRESTLING MATCH OF ALL TIME in an attempt to make up for it (spoiler: they didn't, that match also stunk). Utter disaster. Worst Feud of the Year: Seth Rollins vs. Rey Mysterio Just gonna quote myself here: Benne posted:I'm gonna throw in with Rollins/Mysterio for Worst Feud This feud only ended when Seth went on paternity leave, they never had an actual blowoff. Worst Promotion of the Year: WWE Best Booker: Tony Khan Promoter of the Year: Tony Khan Best Gimmick: Team Taz *slams fist on table* BIG BEEFY BOIS, BIG BEEFY BOIS, VOTE THIS AS BEST GIMMICK UNLESS YOU HATE BIG BEEFY BOIS Worst Gimmick: The Fiend Best Pro Wrestling Book: Voices of Wrestling NJPW Year in Review 2019 This is the best wrestling ebook every year that nobody votes for because it comes out in the first week of January. It's time we change that. Best Pro Wrestling DVD/Streaming Documentary: Dark Side of the Ring: The Final Days of Owen Hart This will compete for first place with the Benoit two-parter, and while those are still great, it treads a lot of ground we already knew. The Owen episode really hammered home how badly WWE hosed it up, and how easily it could've been avoided, and it makes you so much more enraged. It's also a much-deserved rehabilitation for Martha, who got demonized by WWE and its cultish fans for decades and hopefully is finally seen in the right light. Anyone who cares about Owen and his legacy should never want to see him in the WWE HOF and at the whims of Vince's gross rewriting of history, because Martha is already doing a much better job respecting him. This doc is a heartbreaking but important watch. Benne fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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The newest WOR immediately spoils the Wrestler of the Year winner, which you might guess based on who's on it It's Moxley
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I'm more interested to see where Go finishes, because there is a precedent for non-NJPW puro guys placing high based on a hugely hyped year even if the promotion isn't hot, and NOAH felt the hottest it's been in almost a decade. -- Sugiura finished 2nd for his now-legendary 2010 run, and Yoshino was 3rd that year -- Mochizuki finished 4th in 2011, only behind Tana/Cena/Punk who stole the headlines that year -- Miyahara finished 6th in 2016, his big elevation to AJPW's ace -- Miyahara finished 5th in 2017 -- Not puro, but LA Park finished 4th in 2018 based on his feud with Rush, showing that lucha guys can still get votes if they have the buzz -- Miyahara finished 6th in 2019 I'm very confident that Go will finish Top 3 this year, his run was just too good to deny and he got the Dave bump with the Sugiura match getting 5 stars.
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1363588620796395520 Get your final predictions in
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quote:LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD Welp I'm taking the L on Go, but seeing Aunt Pam here was a pleasant surprise
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quote:MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER Is this the first time in history that not a single WWE wrestler finished top 10 in Most Outstanding? I'll have to look that up when I get time, that's astounding. quote:TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR quote:BEST ON INTERVIEWS quote:PROMOTION OF THE YEAR You TJPW marks need to try harder, unless Dave counted it as part of DDT it didn't even finish HM quote:BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW quote:PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR
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And now the Category B awardsquote:UNITED STATES/CANADA MVP quote:JAPANESE MVP quote:MEXICO MVP quote:EUROPE MVP quote:HODGE AWARD/NON-HEAVYWEIGHT MVP quote:WOMEN’S WRESTLING MVP quote:BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW quote:FEUD OF THE YEAR quote:MOST IMPROVED quote:MOST CHARISMATIC quote:BRYAN DANIELSON AWARD My Moxley Technical Mastermind grassroots campaign didn't catch on  quote:BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD quote:BEST FLYING WRESTLER quote:MOST OVERRATED quote:MOST UNDERRATED quote:ROOKIE OF THE YEAR quote:BEST NON-WRESTLER quote:BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER quote:WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER quote:BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW quote:WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW quote:BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER quote:MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC quote:WORST TELEVISION SHOW quote:WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR quote:WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR quote:WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR quote:BEST BOOKER quote:PROMOTER OF THE YEAR quote:BEST GIMMICK quote:WORST GIMMICK quote:BEST PRO WRESTLING BOOK quote:BEST PRO WRESTLING DOCUMENTARY
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Seams posted:I dunno, most of those results make sense to me. I honestly don't see that many controversial results. Certain people on Reddit are going to be mad about this https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1365239585308082179
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Instead of yelling at each other let's all share a hearty laugh at Best Year Of His Career Randy Orton not even cracking the HM list
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People keep getting hung up on the "lol WWE finished 3rd place" thing when the numbers paint a different story. 1) Like someone else mentioned, it was an extremely distant third, nearly 3,000 points behind NJPW, in a year where a lot of Westerners were very down on NJPW. It was close to falling even further behind in the standings -- Stardom, UFC, and NOAH got more first-place votes. 2) Promotion of the Year is about business as much as it is about creative. Like it or not, the promotion that turned literally the biggest profit in wrestling history was always going to get some votes for that. 3) Given the lack of first-place votes, I'm guessing a lot of it was pity votes from people who still like NXT. Other than that, WWE swept the Worst and Most Overrated categories, with many of them by huge landslides, and didn't place a single wrestler in the Most Outstanding category, which I believe is the first time that's ever happened. These are embarrassing results for a promotion with their talent and resources, so I don't know how people came away with that thinking "lol WON readers are dumb fed stans."
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How many of these people get unironically excited about the Slammies every year
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