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FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

Pine Cone Jones posted:

I think the biggest thing for me was the lack of condemning white supremacy. Being raised jewish I was always taught lessons about this sort of thing and I'm honestly uncertain if my concern is overblown, expecting another kristallnacht, and wanting to arm up appropriately or if it's just trump being a bumbling moron.
Trump knows deep down the white supremacists are all he has left so he's pandering to them.

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Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Be prepared
Fun Shoe

Pine Cone Jones posted:

I think the biggest thing for me was the lack of condemning white supremacy. Being raised jewish I was always taught lessons about this sort of thing and I'm honestly uncertain if my concern is overblown, expecting another kristallnacht, and wanting to arm up appropriately or if it's just trump being a bumbling moron. I loving hate how much anxiety and existential dread I feel about everything at this point. I wish I could say that I know trump will lose and there will be some semblance of normality, but who knows.

As a fellow chosen one, arm the gently caress up just in case. Learn how to use it safely and responsibly. Check out the CSPAM gun thread and TFR.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Lol, got a text from my local dispensary using the poo poo debate last night to sell weed

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Biggest take away for me from the debate is that Biden is a bad candidate, advancing the same dumb ideas of the old guard that laid the ground for Trump in the first place, but I'm still voting for the idiot even in my deep blue state because the only thing that will give Trump and the GOP pause about going full fash on election night is a total blowout. The more immediate and unambiguous Biden's victory, the less room they'll have to go through with shenanigans.

Joe winning gives the country time to maybe miraculously work through this poo poo, for the left to organize further politically, and, yes, for the left to achieve parity in arms with the fash militias if poo poo keeps spiraling into a nightmare scenario.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Bored As gently caress posted:

As a fellow chosen one, arm the gently caress up just in case. Learn how to use it safely and responsibly. Check out the CSPAM gun thread and TFR.

There's a gun range near me, and more of than not you'd see a dude or 2 with a yarmulke on blasting away, and this was before the trump poo poo. Then there were more. There's probably a LOT more now that want to go, but covid.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
My second biggest concern after a Trump reelection is Biden winning, doing an immediate reach cross the aisle we can only bipartisan out of this and the DNC turning all efforts on eliminating progressives from the party and teeing up a President Cotton type

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Cugel the Clever posted:

Biggest take away for me from the debate is that Biden is a bad candidate, advancing the same dumb ideas of the old guard that laid the ground for Trump in the first place, but I'm still voting for the idiot even in my deep blue state because the only thing that will give Trump and the GOP pause about going full fash on election night is a total blowout. The more immediate and unambiguous Biden's victory, the less room they'll have to go through with shenanigans.

Joe winning gives the country time to maybe miraculously work through this poo poo, for the left to organize further politically, and, yes, for the left to achieve parity in arms with the fash militias if poo poo keeps spiraling into a nightmare scenario.

Donald Trump with a second term in which he has nothing to lose and a feeling of invincibility because took on the Impeachment HOAX and the FRAUDULENT election and still came out on top is one of the most horrifying prospects I can remember. That alone should be enough for people to vote for Biden, but then you have the motherfucker openly opining about a third term and I could totally hear Mitch "Foghorn Leghorn" McConnell going "Ah say, maybe we should consider abolishing term limits" and Lindsey (assuming he wins) falling right in line.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

maffew buildings posted:

My second biggest concern after a Trump reelection is Biden winning, doing an immediate reach cross the aisle we can only bipartisan out of this and the DNC turning all efforts on eliminating progressives from the party and teeing up a President Cotton type

I think it's more likely he resigns after a year or two due to health reasons and you get the same actions effect, but with a Black Woman breaking racist republican brains to a degree that not even Obama could achieve in the process.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I can't help but think maybe the media and mainstream left response for years to Trump being "lol look at this bufoon" and epic talk show host take downs might have been a bad loving move

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Arven posted:

I think it's more likely he resigns after a year or two due to health reasons and you get the same actions effect, but with a Black Woman breaking racist republican brains to a degree that not even Obama could achieve in the process.

It's odd we don't a precedent for any presidents resigning because of health reasons. Wilson definitely should have and probably Reagan too when it got noticeable.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

maffew buildings posted:

I can't help but think maybe the media and mainstream left response for years to Trump being "lol look at this bufoon" and epic talk show host take downs might have been a bad loving move

Oh, word?



Trump is a buffoon but the media dangerously underestimated how well his simple platitudes, aggrandizement and narcissism would play with the angriest, most well-armed and fanatical parts of the electorate. It’s so easy for the media and liberal elite to laugh at him and treat him as a joke because of his innate lack of intelligence or humility while also refusing to recognize that the man’s success late in life was based on him marketing himself as such. This isn’t me saying that we should have had more empathy for Trump voters, but rather, that the media was wrong to treat him as anything but the aspiring fascist that he is.

Bored As gently caress posted:

As a fellow chosen one, arm the gently caress up just in case. Learn how to use it safely and responsibly. Check out the CSPAM gun thread and TFR.

Sure do wish I had bought a rifle and been able to train with it before stockpiles went out the window and DC’s one FFL quit, therefore making our police department the one FFL in town :psyduck:

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Wait, so the DC police do FFL transfers to private individuals? :laffo:

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Flying_Crab posted:

Wait, so the DC police do FFL transfers to private individuals? :laffo:

It's like stocking a pond

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

Flying_Crab posted:

Wait, so the DC police do FFL transfers to private individuals? :laffo:

Yep! We had one FFL- whose office was in the basement of DC’s Metropolitan Police Department because zoning laws prevented him from operating anywhere else in DC- but he quit earlier this year. There’s a subsection in DC’s gun laws saying the city can act as a FFL so now the MPD does it. They kept up the old FFL’s pricing scheme of $125 a transfer, too.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Arven posted:

I think it's more likely he resigns after a year or two due to health reasons and you get the same actions effect, but with a Black Woman breaking racist republican brains to a degree that not even Obama could achieve in the process.

Pres Kamala having some militias massacred sounds like heaven

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Cugel the Clever posted:

for the left to achieve parity in arms with the fash militias if poo poo keeps spiraling into a nightmare scenario.

Don’t count on that window being very long; Biden was one of the AWB promoters in the 90s and Harris doesn’t strike me as particularly friendly to private weapon ownership either.

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Yep! We had one FFL- whose office was in the basement of DC’s Metropolitan Police Department because zoning laws prevented him from operating anywhere else in DC- but he quit earlier this year. There’s a subsection in DC’s gun laws saying the city can act as a FFL so now the MPD does it. They kept up the old FFL’s pricing scheme of $125 a transfer, too.

I’m frankly amazed the MPD actually does it instead of kicking back all the papers for incorrect ink colors, inconsistent capitalization, etc.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Guys I live in Miami just wanna let you know covid is 100% over. All the bars are open again with no restrictions, everyone's inside eating and I'm getting texts from my juijitsu and MMA gyms to come back and train by rubbing my body up against other sweaty men so we're good dont worry

Lol we so hosed

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


aphid_licker posted:

Pres Kamala having some militias massacred sounds like heaven

Why would she? The militias are all about licking cop boot, and she's a cop.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Ontario is hitting pre-lock down numbers again and the government doesn't seem to care at all right now. I guess they shut down strip clubs and late night bars (why even open those to begin with) but schools, indoor places of businesses are still open to people. At least people wear masks here

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Commission on Presidential Debates: woof yeah we're bringing in a mute button

https://twitter.com/fran_chambers/status/1311355978525409281?s=19

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

facialimpediment posted:

Commission on Presidential Debates: woof yeah we're bringing in a mute button

https://twitter.com/fran_chambers/status/1311355978525409281?s=19

Maybe there is hope for this nation after all...

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

maffew buildings posted:

My second biggest concern after a Trump reelection is Biden winning, doing an immediate reach cross the aisle we can only bipartisan out of this and the DNC turning all efforts on eliminating progressives from the party and teeing up a President Cotton type

theyre absolutely going to kick the can down the road as long as possible so the rich can loot even more and then fly off into the sunset as the anarchy starts

remember yall, Biden said it himself, "Nothing would fundamentally change"

aphid_licker posted:

Pres Kamala having some militias massacred sounds like heaven

She's going to let loose the Feds on what can be roughly called Antifa while broadly ignoring the police routinely murdering their way through the poor and persons of color.

Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 30, 2020

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

CainFortea posted:

Why would she? The militias are all about licking cop boot, and she's a cop.

Watch how fast that turns once there's a demoncrat in charge of federal law enforcement.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

CainFortea posted:

Why would she? The militias are all about licking cop boot, and she's a cop.

How cute that you think the racists that run police unions look at her and think “one of us” due to her being the CA AG.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Wanna see Trump's reaction to getting muted.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

aphid_licker posted:

Wanna see Trump's reaction to getting muted.

There is a power I would not be able to resist using.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

They're just gonna yell louder at each other.

For the third debate they will use sound proof glass boxes.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
The next debate has a "town hall" format right?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
I haven't yammered on about polling very much, but the bottom line to where things are right now is that Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina are currently closer than Pennsylvania.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1311365390510043137?s=19

I wouldn't pay attention to that Biden number, but SC is now absolutely a toss-up for the Senate. Q isn't the only one with the Graham race essentially tied - three straight polls have Graham/Harrison deadlocked. I'm starting to believe.

Better Than You posted:

The next debate has a "town hall" format right?

Correct, but it's in a few weeks. The VP debate is next Wednesday, standard format.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Sep 30, 2020

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Was I the only one that thought Biden was saved by the interruptions? He had a lot of stumbling answers he struggled to work through from beginning to end. He looked really old.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Midjack posted:

Don’t count on that window being very long; Biden was one of the AWB promoters in the 90s and Harris doesn’t strike me as particularly friendly to private weapon ownership either.

Yeah, pretty much this. The Biden campaign's platform on guns is the same disappointing Democratic bullshit. A new AWB, a new mag ban, banning all online sales.

If the Democrat wins a Senate majority in November they're probably going to waste time and capital on this.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

lightpole posted:

Was I the only one that thought Biden was saved by the interruptions? He had a lot of stumbling answers he struggled to work through from beginning to end. He looked really old.

Pretty much! When Biden got an interrupted minute and stared at the camera, he was fine. When he got interrupted, he was knocked off his thought trains. Then right after, he would mildly gently caress up, then Donnie would bail him out again by interrupting the gently caress up in progress. It's really hard to know how much of that was Biden loving up because he's old, or Biden loving up because he had an Anger Mango in his ear.

It's glossed over because COFFEE BOY COFFEE BOY I DON'T KNOW THE NAZIS

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1311378242830561282?s=19

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1311379799970131968?s=19

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

McNally posted:

Yeah, pretty much this. The Biden campaign's platform on guns is the same disappointing Democratic bullshit. A new AWB, a new mag ban, banning all online sales.

If the Democrat wins a Senate majority in November they're probably going to waste time and capital on this.

They have to do something to appease their base while ensuring they don't do anything the base wants that would alienate the structural forces they rely on for authority and donations. That unfortunately just leaves guns and social signifiers as being on the table.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
65+% of Americans want stricter gun control laws, too. I don't think addressing those desires really amounts to wasted political capital.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Grip it and rip it posted:

65+% of Americans want stricter gun control laws, too. I don't think addressing those desires really amounts to wasted political capital.

There's "stricter gun control" and "making people who own ARs pay $200 to be allowed to keep them."

There's universal background checks, and then there's banning all online sales.

And there's probably an argument to be made that many of the people who want stricter gun control don't know what laws currently exist and just think you can buy a 249 at a gunshow.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

CainFortea posted:

Why would she? The militias are all about licking cop boot, and she's a cop.

You didn't hear? She's a socialist now.

McNally posted:

And there's probably an argument to be made that many of the people who want stricter gun control don't know what laws currently exist and just think you can buy a 249 at a gunshow.

Extremely, this.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 30, 2020

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


It would be super cool if maybe everyone remembers the last time an AWB happened and how good that was for republicans and maybe perhaps learn from the past?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

CainFortea posted:

It would be super cool if maybe everyone remembers the last time an AWB happened and how good that was for republicans and maybe perhaps learn from the past?

Yeah but that was almost 30 years ago, surely none of the people involved are still in Congress.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



CainFortea posted:

It would be super cool if maybe everyone remembers the last time an AWB happened and how good that was for republicans and maybe perhaps learn from the past?

I don’t think we can pin the entirety of the 1994 elections on gun control backlash but I could see 2022 being a repeat if Party D takes Congress and the Presidency in 2020 and starts huffing their own farts out of a scuba tank.

Edit: which to be fair they probably will.

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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Midjack posted:

I don’t think we can pin the entirety of the 1994 elections on gun control backlash but I could see 2022 being a repeat if Party D takes Congress and the Presidency in 2020 and starts huffing their own farts out of a scuba tank.

I don't think we can either. However I do think that it would be super cool if maybe everyone remembers the last time an AWB happened and how good that was for republicans and maybe perhaps learn from the past.

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