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Captain Cappy posted:Nijisanji parent company mic dropping over the Aloe incident. This is really good stuff. Ichikara keeps on being on top of the game as an organization. Doxing & harrassment will happen again, and I don't feel Cover handled Aloe, or other kinds of incidents well. I'm not trying to start a Nijisanji vs Hololive-thing here, talking purely about the companies. Korone and Marine are the best. THE BEST!
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nielsm posted:It's well known that YouTube takes 30%. The guesses are that Cover Corp take 40-50%, leaving the talents with somewhere between 30-40% of the total amount, but they then also have to pay taxes of the income. Cover & Ichikara take all SC-money after google-tax, and distribute it to the staff (including voice-actor) in a ratio we don't know. Higuchi Kaede and Coco has talked about this. Hololivers have also mentioned some kind of bonus system.
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Reclines Obesily posted:they take around 30-40% of the super chats they receive, youtube takes 30% and 20-30% goes to cover. Do you have a source for this?
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Trihugger posted:I'm slowly making my way through Aqua content after finding out she was the highest Superchat earner for Hololive in 2019. She also recently did a 3D concert, but it didn't seem to me like non-Japanese fans gave much of a response to it. Seems like she has a really big Japanese audience, but hasn't captured as much attention outside beyond the onion memes. Her signature panicked hyperventilating is definitely a mood. Aqua concert was on paid content on niconico, I wonder what the viewership was. Since there was no venue with audience, it was more a music video than a concert. Still very good, and nice to see her in pro-idol-mode as contrast to Jump King marathon ending with her walking away to throw up.
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nielsm posted:One of the good translators finished their coverage of Coco's "I'm number one!" stream. The Nijisanji-info is likely from Kaede's stream where she talked about different income-sources for vtuber-voices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw
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Haha, my brother got me a t-shirt with Yagoo's face printed on it as birthday present.
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That English only Korone-stream was so drat good.
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MrBlarney posted:stuff I started following the scene in January 2018, and it has been interesting to follow how things have shifted. The companies that pushed the whole vtuber thing in the beginning (Active8, DUO, Appland, Cover, and at-the-time independents like Kaguya Luna etc) were all tech-companies, who worked for a tech-goal. Remember that the term virtual youtuber comes from Kizuna AI, and "virtual" is for virtual reality, not for things to be fictional. There is a panel-discussion with some of the big ones from an event in the summer 2018, where Kaguya Luna's producer puts it very clearly "my dream is to make Sword Art Online a reality". What he wanted to do with the Kaguya Luna-project was to shorten the gap between virtual and real world. During 2018 there were a lot of VR-events from the various companies, but it seems to have dropped down now. I see Nojaloli's old video as a milestone in the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVh4Fc43Bo It showed that anyone could do this, and there was an explosion of "homemade" channels coming up after that. Another milestone was when Nijisanji came on to the scene in February of 2018. Cheaper production, and focus on streaming content. Ichikara's original goal with Nijisanji was to promote their app, but they quickly shifted to becoming an entertainment company. Cover had also done stream-focused content with Tokino Sora, but it was always with full 3D & mocap. With Hololive they also started focusing on cheaper stream-content. I don't mean this in a negative way. I love where we are today, and I love following tons of channels. 2018 was an exciting time, it reminded me of when when Hatsune Miku was released - an explosion of creativity from nowhere. There was something new happening every month, and nobody knew wtf was going to happen. There is definitely influence of classical idol-culture to the vtuber-scene. Hololive has been marketed as an idol-group, and people freak the hell out when they interact with guys. This is less of a problem at Nijisanji. For streaming culture you see a lot Twitch-style chat from non-Japanese viewers. Lots of spam etc. Not my cup of tea, but I'm an outsider to Twitch-culture so I can't judge. Good comparison with the wrestling-personas. Some vtubers have a thinner wall between persona & person than others. Himemori Luna has a pretty thick wall, whereas Natsuiro Matsuri has a thinner wall. We should all be mindful of, and respect the wall, no matter how thin it seems.
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Bloody Pom posted:People tend to forget that Cover and Nijisanji are legitimate talent agencies, and their standards have only gotten higher as their popularity has grown. I recall seeing a subtitled clip of Coco marveling at how quickly Holofive and HoloEN have exploded onto the scene. These are established content creators, that clearly have their poo poo together and know how to play to their own strengths. Haha, I see Coco as part of raising the level there. Asacoco every weekday was ambitious as hell, and probably helped a bunch in making 2020 the year of Hololive (so far).
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All Hololive-channels are doing exceptionally well, and you shouldn't think too much about one making more money than another. Both gen5 and EN overall, have grown faster than any other vtuber-channels ever.
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homeless snail posted:If you want some queer irl vtubers go watch Nijisanji's Crossick and Gundo Mirei I love that they hired Tomoe specifically to be SM queen of Nijisanji. Her story with Sukoya Kana has been so nice to follow.
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Baka-nin posted:https://twitter.com/ToastCrust/status/1306697939432206339?s=20 AAAAAA I'm crying!
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Ange is great. Good in collabs, her playthrough of that hostess-club game together with Marine was funny as hell.
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Kanfy posted:Also someone mentioned the non-binary Melissa Kinrenka earlier, they're doing a no-archive singing stream in a few moments. Melissa is nice.
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Stream-chats have not been shitstorms from what I've seen. Word filters are reasonable. Cancelling Korone's birthday-stream & Watame taking a day off is unlikely to have anything to do with events. Calm down. https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1310638532474535937
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Sep 29, 2020 12:19
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Yes Cover has investors, so there's a board standing over Yagoo.
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I guess the OG-team is supposed to be the lone wolf-club (or werewolf, but that doesn't make sense), but I automatically read it as senior citizen's club. They got me. 
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Jerkface posted:https://mega.nz/file/BhwUQYqK#bKlJ10RoH4anaXDuTjfA-tLwu8XUGtN3760-Wmr9mRU Thanks! Missed the stream and wanted to see the whole thing.
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The companies behind both Nijisanji & Hololive have not only grown extremely fast, but has also changed from tech to entertainment. Scaling & changing in that pace will come with growing pains in the best case, and devastating friction on all levels in worst case. Speaking from personal experience. It's hard as hell to scale fast, and I'm not surprised that Cover is struggling to deliver on some things. (Like getting archives back up, pushing more merch, cancelling 3D-streams, etc) That Nijisanji seemingly has things under control is drat impressive. I'd love to hear how they did it, super interested in industry stuff like that.
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Okakoro's Da Pump is the best thing holy poo poo, been looping it many times. The blessings of this week so far outweigh the negatives by far.
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Cover's investors will not want to "pull out of China".
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Re: Ichikara management - the company grew from like nothing to 300+ people in 2 years. It's extremely hard to do that without friction. Not surprising that some talents get mismanaged. Roa, a grown rear end professional, used the senpai-card on Meiro, not cool. Also, there is a lot we don't know, so we shouldn't run wild with speculations.
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I'm glad the vtuber-scene is still a wild frontier and that nobody knows what the hell is going to happen. It's great. 
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Insurrectionist posted:E: Honestly I can't think of any decently known VTubers that consistently stream EU primetime. Certainly not any signed with Japanese companies. Maybe there's some indie out there I can't think of atm. Most of them start around midnight for the US audience though. Are you talking about English-speaking vtubers? Because anyone who streams at JP night-time is perfect for EU, and our favorite doggo does that just to mention one obvious example.
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Broken technology built to enforce broken rules.
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Glad I dragged my rear end out of bed for Roboco & Towa live in VR, it was nice! Their 3D-models are really well made, and come out differently up close in VR. Stuff like this - the gap between jacket and body: https://twitter.com/KANIGAYA/status/1319957412653133824 I didn't clip anything, here's from someone else: https://twitter.com/A_vabo7/status/1319928853985280001
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Looking forward to Lamy in Among Us!
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How does this spam on coco actually work? Why is it possible in youtube to just keep on creating new accounts? Like, shouldn't there be a confirm-step of some sort, to prevent scripting this up?
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Nice! Was hoping for more Among Us-collabs, good stuff! Marine & Aqua!
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Artia's twitter profile picture has changed to a clownface.
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golden bubble posted:Extreme concern. Her current Billi stream going on right now is just a long, controlled breakdown and depression spiral. Any good information in the stream?
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Oh Snapple! posted:Jesus christ There is just endless speculation in this goddamn thread. I'm wondering about what's going on, sorry about coming across as callous.
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Trihugger posted:Guess I'm on a vtuber music binge. Just found this acoustic concert from June featuring Hoshimachi Suisei of Hololive, Mokota Mememe of .Live, and Hanabasami Kyo of Re:Act. Hanabasami Kyo is one of the top singers out there for sure. Off the top of my head - love her cover of GimmexGimme together with Shishigami Leona. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az3ZDkHezEk edit: Also loved her version of a remix of Charles, but it seems it was removed from the channel. Here's a repost of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-1v7oTPzrg PerOlus fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Marpril continues to work with cool people, this time LADY'S ONLY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dqixBi8TPU
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Some random older music links I want to share. "Older", simply stuff from before 2020.  Kashiko Mari and Omega sisters singing Ikenai Borderline is probably my favorite version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB8aRwh8fZY YuNi is music-focused, and has tons of covers and some original songs. I've looped Ultra Soul so many times... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRfTfVeZavs Retired Oda Nobuhime had some good songs. Everyone does Roki at some point, her version is my favorite. Yes I know of her post-Oda carreer. Polka Polka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo_T8Rsg64M KMNZ are awesome and Augmentation is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGddpIfXeQ Osanai Mei singing the sentiment of the vtuber-scene 2018. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbmpt6h-9U
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The only information we have is that Gura's & Haato's recent Muse Dash streams have been privated, right?
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Sillipenda posted:Kamaniki, or Gigi, has does this in past streams. She typically does art but does put on Beat Saber when gaming occasionally. Something like this is what you're looking for right? Mirai Akari also did it back in the day. No jumping around though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFqo5OExTxU
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Jerkface posted:Oh poo poo Korone and Mori collab are gonna play Keep Talking Nobody Explodes with alternating danger languages Cool! When is it happening?
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大戦 should be fine. WW2 for example is 第二次世界大戦.
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Korone's karaoke stream had fun song selections as always!
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