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you can't feed a family on job satisfaction...not that most of us computer do-ers have families anyway
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pointsofdata posted:i just checked for London and good construction jobs pay better than lovely software ones the crane operators building the stanford hospital were paid more than the surgeons now working inside of it
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Good! Can you imagine how mad that would make the surgeons if you told them
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:the crane operators building the stanford hospital were paid more than the surgeons now working inside of it this sounds like some extremely fallacious "did you know that bus drivers in san francisco make $150,000 a year!!" (a BUS DRIVER shouldn't make as much as someone doing an IMPORTANT JOB) (four bus drivers did, by working 30 hours of overtime a week all year) thing i'm gonna guess in this case it's the surgeons (or even more speciously, the surgery residents) working out their hourly rate and finding it comes out to less than a crane operator who can't legally work more than a certain number of hours by OSHA regs Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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*gets paid handsomely while writing this at fake job and fuming that someone would suggest rbac and role mining in nano domino 2020* some people say ‘authorize ‘em with roles’ a poor solution with faulty controls titles and forms and ticks in a box a definition that’s weak and a role count strong i mine 16 apps and what do I get another approver that I haven’t found yet sox don't you audit me cause I can't show a precise enough level of access control
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Sagebrush posted:this sounds like some extremely fallacious "did you know that bus drivers in san francisco make $150,000 a year!!" (a BUS DRIVER shouldn't make as much as someone doing an IMPORTANT JOB) (four bus drivers did, by working 30 hours of overtime a week all year) thing norcal crane operators should be easily clearing the pay of residents and fellows though and they count as surgeons. hell they probably do most of the work too
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I know a crane operator in NorCal and I know what he makes and it isn’t six figgies so...
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must be seven then
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im a crane operator in norcal and I earn ten billion dollars a year
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:you move 16 printers and what do you get?
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i'm not paid more than construction workers, though. i mean, more than some, but not all.
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Mr. Nice! posted:i'm not paid more than construction workers, though. i mean, more than some, but not all. then why dont you get the HECK outta my thread
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I’m a pheasant plucker in southwest michigan and i earn seven buckets if feathers every autumn.
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:im a crane operator in norcal and I earn ten billion dollars a year
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President Beep posted:I’m a pleasant phucker
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:the crane operators building the stanford hospital were paid more than the surgeons now working inside of it How much did the surgeons get paid if they worked outside? 
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Schadenboner posted:How much did the surgeons get paid if they worked outside? take a look at military officer payscale o-3 through o-6 and add on a couple hundred thousand in bonus dollars for a three year obligation and other various incentive payments. between 100-200k/year or more depending on their experience.
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Mr. Nice! posted:take a look at military officer payscale o-3 through o-6 and add on a couple hundred thousand in bonus dollars for a three year obligation and other various incentive payments. between 100-200k/year or more depending on their experience. Yeah, but I've seen M*A*S*H, they get to work inside tents?
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Sagebrush posted:this sounds like some extremely fallacious "did you know that bus drivers in san francisco make $150,000 a year!!" (a BUS DRIVER shouldn't make as much as someone doing an IMPORTANT JOB) (four bus drivers did, by working 30 hours of overtime a week all year) thing stanford just intensely underpays their surgeons, to the point that they're having problems retaining staff and recruiting people. surgical residents make like $65k, p sure fellows are still under 6.5 figgies, and surgical attendings are way way below market for the area, to the point that they can't afford houses there lol also people don't realize that crane operation is a Big Deal with a whole lotta liability. they hafta inspect the entire thing every day and document it all. really the head electrician in charge of all the wiring for the new hospital also probably outearns the surgeons by a larger amount The Management posted:I know a crane operator in NorCal and I know what he makes and it isn’t six figgies so... ask him what experienced tower crane operators make. or is it mobile crane operators? i forget which one is the more liable one, but they get up into 6.5 figgie territory after a few years H.P. Hovercraft fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:stanford just intensely underpays their surgeons, to the point that they're having problems retaining staff and recruiting people. surgical residents make like $65k, p sure fellows are still under 6.5 figgies, and surgical attendings are way way below market for the area, to the point that they can't afford houses there lol a few years back stanford had to start building "low-income housing" ($800k duplexes) for their junior faculty, because the salary for a tenure-track professor at The Most Expensive ∴ The Best University In The World wasn't remotely enough to raise a family in palo alto. just nuke palo alto imo, that'll fix some poo poo
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palo alto is actually kind of a normal looking town with mostly normal houses that sit on land which is inexplicably worth $4 million. palo alto could get a LOT denser with fourplexes and high-rises etc., and yeah the nimbys fight back against that, gently caress them. but there are way worse places in the bay area to nuke first. try atherton, or hillsborough, or los altos hills, or woodside. flatten those, install 50 story soulless concrete apartments
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:also people don't realize that crane operation is a Big Deal with a whole lotta liability. they hafta inspect the entire thing every day and document it all. really the head electrician in charge of all the wiring for the new hospital also probably outearns the surgeons by a larger amount pff i code websites, how hard could it be *drops 1 ton i-beam on a tesla* woopsie
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fortunately it's all so close together that your average 150kt tactical nuke dropped right on the facebook hq would also render the entire eastern side of the peninsula uninhabitable.
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Sagebrush posted:fortunately it's all so close together that your average 150kt tactical nuke dropped right on the facebook hq would also render the entire eastern side of the peninsula uninhabitable. no plan is perfect but I like where you're going
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question for bay area folks - I'm thinking about taking a job in SF, kind of near the financial district. We're a one income family, where should I look for housing? salary is low 200k plus some RSUs that are probably worthless shitpost away but I'd welcome serious advice too Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Sep 12, 2020 |
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buy a boat and only pay rent to dock at a "residential" slip however doing this may require a commute from emeryville, apparently they've significantly limited those slips/leases in sf proper. but it's apparently way more affordable, like trailer park affordable
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power botton posted:no plan is perfect but I like where you're going There is significant risk here though: if it's all built-up like that better to chuck five or six mirvs at it, just in case?
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:buy a boat and only pay rent to dock at a "residential" slip drat. that sounds cool.
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Poopernickel posted:question for bay area folks - depends a lot on what kind of lifestyle you are looking for. whatever it is, you do not want to drive to work in San Francisco. so find somewhere with reasonable access to BART or Caltrain.
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Poopernickel posted:question for bay area folks - you can probably get a bedroom and shared kitchen within an hour commute if yall are cool with roommates
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Crane operators can actually do a surgeons job better too. Who would you trust to pilot the robot surgery knife, some rear end in a top hat who did 10 years of med school or whatever or a bloke who's been precisely controlling heavy weights on teh end of a l;ong string for 30 years
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bobbilljim posted:Crane operators can actually do a surgeons job better too. Who would you trust to pilot the robot surgery knife, some rear end in a top hat who did 10 years of med school or whatever or a bloke who's been precisely controlling heavy weights on teh end of a l;ong string for 30 years yeah. surgeons don't fall 475 feet to their death when they extend their scalpel hand too much
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bobbilljim posted:Crane operators can actually do a surgeons job better too. Who would you trust to pilot the robot surgery knife, some rear end in a top hat who did 10 years of med school or whatever or a bloke who's been precisely controlling heavy weights on teh end of a l;ong string for 30 years trick question fuckwit: trust Jesus Christ.
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I’m sorry that was harsh. it’s just that i get so angry when people don’t honor christ. plus i just hosed up a move in candy crush.
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Jesus was a Crane Operator
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Jonny 290 posted:yeah. surgeons don't fall 475 feet to their death when they extend their scalpel hand too much they also dont read anatomy books for seven years usually
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President Beep posted:I’m sorry that was harsh. it’s just that i get so angry when people don’t honor christ. plus i just hosed up a move in candy crush. I understand
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Bored Online posted:they also dont read anatomy books for seven years usually pffft like you need to know the names of all of those bones you're cutting through
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Bored Online posted:they also dont read anatomy books for seven years usually Wikipedia exists. this is some dog and pony show poo poo.
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