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Franchescanado posted:Stuff. Incredible post.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 16:19 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 11:37 |
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An open secret in Western, especially American, society is that the most popular media with kids, especially preteens is media that is geared toward adults. The most profitable piece of media in entertainment history isn't a Star Wars film, a Michael Jackson CD, or Minecraft, it's Grand Theft Auto V. Amongst the most popular musical artists today, and certainly the most talked about, are Cardi B and Tekashi 69. Game of loving Thrones was easily the most popular television series of the previous decade and arguably had a bigger following than The Lord of the Rings in the 2000s. Let that sink in. And yes not everything that is mainstream isn't so explicit, but is the Last of Us Part II, Drake, or Netflix original series that much of a step up? Now to be fair, there is the argument to make of how much this all really matters. teen pregnancy is at a record low and is less than half of what they were a decade ago. It's also widely known that the US crime rate is also declining to half century lows. But at the end of the day, there still the conversation to be had is even if society is headed in the right direction in those categories is it still not a cause for concern that preteens are engaging in this media and copying their acts without being aware of what it fully entails? The film disgusts people who have had brief glances at the overly sexual scenes, with the discussion being "how could they have a movie that portrays such young girls as this?" when in reality this is how many young girls act. There is a reason why whenever there is any sort of community talent show that is focused on dancing, there is an obligatory 11 or 12 year old kid who performs a dirty dancing routine and has to be taken off stage, especially in disadvantaged communities. I still remember as a kid I was in Puerto Rico and my family took me to music festival and they asked various teenagers in the audience to "show how they dance" to which most of them did so in a sexual way. Possibly wanting the next dance to be something more wholesome, he calls up a kid who is maybe a year or two older than me at most. He asks him if he knows how to dance to which the kid responses enthuastically with "Of course I do! I dance all the time!" The guy on the mic asks the kid to show us what he's got, to which the kid proceeds to turn around, puts his hands on his knees, and starts slowly moving his butt around in an extremely sexual way. All the adults in the audience were :gawk:, while all the kids were cheering him on. So there's your "Cuties" moment right there. While I will agree that the girls in the film aren't the norm, whether we like to admit it or not they aren't exactly rare or as far from the mark of the median as we like to think. I'm not saying that we should ban or shame Cardi B at all what so ever, but as adults the film gives the message that growing up, especially as a female, can be very turbulent and that parents need to be made aware of the type of media their kids are indulging and that they should be properly educated about the things the songs portray and why it isn't geared toward them.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 17:18 |
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A little off-topic but I heard someone reference Natalie Portman in "Leon: The Professional" as an example and that was something that made me uncomfortable. Like I'm not sure what the movie was suppose to say about her being "in love" and acting like the hitman's significant other.Waterbed Wendy posted:has anyone in here actually watched the movie? Me.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 21:07 |
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Franchescanado posted:The director's cut is especially not cool. It's a weird, disturbing choice that's made legitimately concerning by stories of the director that have come out in recent years. I see. I find that film to be the inverse of "Cuties". It's a very well regarded film, yet whenever the topic is brought up people refuse to acknowledge something might be there.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2020 22:14 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slS-6xVpI90
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 04:05 |
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massive spider posted:I'm gonna have to humbly request a summary or perhaps your thoughts before I risk committing to watch any youtube talking head for 30 minutes. It's a good conversation of the film and it's controversy and I agree with most of it. Good watch.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 16:25 |
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pentyne posted:I saw a good comment somewhere else with someone pointing out that children don't spontaneously develop sexual awareness at 15/16 they know about it from a fairly young age and will explore to understand it. Scenes with 12 year old boys talking about boobs are a staple of gross comedy hi-jinks and the movie Good Boys featured exactly that. This is a very good point that I didn't even consider.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 04:13 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 11:37 |
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When on Earth has this thread implied that the oversexualization of young girls is a cultural issue from people who "don't speak English"?Franchescanado posted:This just reminded me of when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a video of her dancing as a teenager posted to Twitter with a bunch of conservatives saying "Look at this stupid idiot! She should be ashamed! She's making a fool of herself! I would be so embarrassed!" and then AOC responded with "lol, I was a teen girl having fun dancing. What is there to be ashamed of? I look cute." I also felt that conservatives saw it as oversexual and tried to frame it as her being a "spicy loose Latina."
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 17:13 |