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Peaceful Anarchy posted:The desire to compromise is a pretty common one. "On the one hand people saying the movie is exploitative and gross have a point, but on the other I believe in artistic freedom and it is important to expose these concerns about society, how can I balance these ideas?" The first two things you posted are pretty in line with that, trying to devise ways of showing that this happens without inflicting the harm on new people, whether by using adults capable of consent or by showing what is happening regardless of your filming. It says that their concerns are on the production side, not on the viewer side. Whether these are appropriate compromises for either perspective, or would have the same effect on viewers and the general conversation, is debatable, but they're an understandable position. Doesn't seem any more uncomfortable than the rest of the discussion. I think the issue with the "should have been a documentary" talking point is that children are still exploited by footage being used of them, but without the agency and knowledge of the children being shown, which defeats itself. The set of Cuties was one of more controlled circumstances, where much guidance and counseling were resourced to the children, which to me seems preferable than any of the other options put forward. All the quotes Horizon Burning brought up are equally uncomfortable to me, I just haven't been able to put into words why that is. I think it's that the points being made, while noble, perpetuate the problems of objectification they long to solve. Maybe others can build on this here.
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Franchescanado posted:*The average age of a child getting their first smart phone is 10 years old. More than 50% of children aged 12 have a smart phone. The average age a child begins watching pornography is now 11 years old. The recommended age for parents to start talking in depth about sexuality is 9-12 years old. The average age a person starts becoming sexually aware and begins searching for comparisons to see if they're "normal" is apparently 8-12 years old. I'm not saying this is "good" or "morally right or wrong" or anything, these are just facts based on research and polls and psychology studies that are easily searched. Anecdotally, having worked in after school programs to help tutor students, I was informed by many school officials that many of their students had already had The Talk with their parents by the time they were 10 years old. (In tutoring Science, I had kids ask questions about sex, and had to go find supervisors and attendants to know how to even deal with that. Thanks for the great posts. I was wondering if you might share your source on this statement: "the average age a person starts becoming sexually aware and begins searching for comparisons to see if they're "normal" is apparently 8-12 years old"
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