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Angry Lobster posted:Vinicius is a moron but no one deserves this. Ya Eto is the one I remember from back in the day. I just meant in the 90s if you were black and played in Spain or Italy it must have been hell.
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# ? May 23, 2023 15:24 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 16:12 |
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Ulio posted:Ya Eto is the one I remember from back in the day. I just meant in the 90s if you were black and played in Spain or Italy it must have been hell. It also happened to non-blacks, like Roberto Carlos or Alves. Race has always been the easiest and most obvious way to provoke or attack some player/team, however other means were used like threats and intimidation (Mijatovic), actual violence, or even celebrating and ridiculing someone's death (Juanito, Antonio Puerta), and that's just the tip. The thing is in the 80s and 90s, the organized radical fans groups (call it hooligans, 'Ultras', whatever) were at their peak, so this kind of poo poo happened more frequently, and there was a sensation of impunity due to the clubs (almost no exceptions) actually protecting these groups, until at some point they stopped making excuses and started to do something although some did more than others. Obviously it keeps happening occasionally.
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# ? May 23, 2023 16:08 |
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Angry Lobster posted:It also happened to non-blacks, like Roberto Carlos or Alves. Race has always been the easiest and most obvious way to provoke or attack some player/team, however other means were used like threats and intimidation (Mijatovic), actual violence, or even celebrating and ridiculing someone's death (Juanito, Antonio Puerta), and that's just the tip. The thing is in the 80s and 90s, the organized radical fans groups (call it hooligans, 'Ultras', whatever) were at their peak, so this kind of poo poo happened more frequently, and there was a sensation of impunity due to the clubs (almost no exceptions) actually protecting these groups, until at some point they stopped making excuses and started to do something although some did more than others. Obviously it keeps happening occasionally. NINE formal complaints in the past two seasons regarding ONE player being targeted. Occasionally.
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# ? May 23, 2023 16:17 |
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Shrapnig posted:NINE formal complaints in the past two seasons regarding ONE player being targeted. And it will keep happening regarding that one player because it's effective. The league should close down all the stadiums where this crap happens, no exceptions, fines have never done jack poo poo.
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# ? May 23, 2023 16:30 |
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As I said elsewhere, while they shouldn’t have to, it’s too bad that no team (especially one as prominent as Real Madrid or Barça) has collectively said “if one of our players is abused, we will walk off and abandon the match, no matter the consequences.” I get they’re all pampered millionaire footballers who mostly live in a bubble of sycophancy but when your loving teammate is dealing with this every match (and once is obviously too many times) and even moreso because the lovely racist fans know it is bothering him, I would hope there would be some courage and leadership in the changing room to say “we have to stop this and find a way to shine a light on this backwards culture of blatant and aggressive racism.” Without any sort of real pressure or repercussions, whether that’s embarrassment like prominent players refusing to play and/or financial, Tebas, the league, and the clubs will refuse to do anything of substance and continue their whataboutism of “if you don’t like being racially insulted, maybe you shouldn’t be so sensitive about it.”
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# ? May 23, 2023 17:52 |
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Saw a story on the BBC today which was a bit of an eye-opener:quote:La Liga will request "more sanctioning powers" so it can punish incidents of racism in Spanish football. Doesn’t excuse the victim-blaming in Tebas’s comments but, yeah, those are definitely powers the league should have if they’re to respond properly to these incidents.
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# ? May 23, 2023 18:22 |
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Spain was also home to that infamous Lewis Hamilton photo
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# ? May 23, 2023 18:39 |
Angry Lobster posted:Vinicius is a moron but no one deserves this. Did I miss something? What did he do?
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# ? May 23, 2023 22:10 |
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Thanks Ants posted:Spain was also home to that infamous Lewis Hamilton photo And the basketball team taking a promotional team photo with players pulling their eyes to "appear" Chinese. I agree that the teams should just walk off. Felt like Ancelotti was almost there. Even that gently caress Lucas Vasquez was outraged. Seeing people online critical of captain Benzema for not doing more...altho unsure how easy it is to blackmail random fans.
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# ? May 24, 2023 15:09 |
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lol https://twitter.com/FootyAccums/status/1661710324830195712
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# ? May 25, 2023 14:28 |
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Angry Lobster posted:It also happened to non-blacks, like Roberto Carlos or Alves. Race has always been the easiest and most obvious way to provoke or attack some player/team, however other means were used like threats and intimidation (Mijatovic), actual violence, or even celebrating and ridiculing someone's death (Juanito, Antonio Puerta), and that's just the tip. The thing is in the 80s and 90s, the organized radical fans groups (call it hooligans, 'Ultras', whatever) were at their peak, so this kind of poo poo happened more frequently, and there was a sensation of impunity due to the clubs (almost no exceptions) actually protecting these groups, until at some point they stopped making excuses and started to do something although some did more than others. Obviously it keeps happening occasionally. I mean Lazio ultras are terrible now, can you imagine them in the 90s lol.
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# ? May 25, 2023 23:09 |
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Just so I’m clear - am I reading that right that they’re protesting the match because of Vini Jr reacting to racist abuse and reacting, received a red card that was overturned, NOT that he was targeted and insulted? Because if so, loving hell
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# ? May 25, 2023 23:33 |
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sticksy posted:Just so I’m clear - am I reading that right that they’re protesting the match because of Vini Jr reacting to racist abuse and reacting, received a red card that was overturned, NOT that he was targeted and insulted? Welcome to Spain
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# ? May 25, 2023 23:46 |
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sticksy posted:Just so I’m clear - am I reading that right that they’re protesting the match because of Vini Jr reacting to racist abuse and reacting, received a red card that was overturned, NOT that he was targeted and insulted? don't forget that he was being strangled before lashing out on top of the racist abuse
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# ? May 26, 2023 11:51 |
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Jose posted:don't forget that he was being strangled before lashing out on top of the racist abuse Lol, you forget a ball boy threw in an extra ball and then the Valencia used that ball to clear Vini dribbling into the box. Also for those that didn't watch the game, the whole near side was full of rubbish that Valencia fans had been throwing all game. Pre game they had their monkey chants when RM bus came into the stadium. It was a complete poo poo show. I am also wondering if they did this last season because these fans were hardcore targeting Vinicius.
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# ? May 26, 2023 17:38 |
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On the other hand the Spanish eat tapas and have dinner at midnight and are therefore very cool.
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# ? May 26, 2023 21:07 |
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Ulio posted:I mean Lazio ultras are terrible now, can you imagine them in the 90s lol. They were so much worse because it wasn't just a bunch of limp dicked internet morons then, it was real criminal maniacs.
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# ? May 27, 2023 00:59 |
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https://twitter.com/sidlowe/status/1662458254272741377?s=20 La Liga creating designated zones for racists?
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# ? May 27, 2023 14:59 |
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No, they're saying that if the entire stadium is white there won't be any racism.
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# ? May 27, 2023 15:04 |
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Was wondering if anyone seen Sevilla matches, how will they do vs Roma possibly parking the bus tomorrow in the EL finals.
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# ? May 30, 2023 15:08 |
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Roma is going to bury them under that bus.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 19:18 |
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valencia won't go down
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# ? Jun 4, 2023 23:02 |
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Can’t believe nobody posted the new league logo https://twitter.com/LaLiga/status/1665478541784363008 It looks like someone got lazy making Iron Front arrows.
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# ? Jul 14, 2023 08:10 |
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that's worse in every conceivable way. hope warrior sues. its the new poo poo juventus badge backwards. etc.
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# ? Jul 14, 2023 08:55 |
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The old one with the rainbow was better
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# ? Jul 14, 2023 14:47 |
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What's with sport brands copying tech style minimalistic design? Like the Juve redesign is the worst.
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# ? Jul 18, 2023 23:36 |
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They heard some hype about esports teams and decided that they need to be branded like one.
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# ? Jul 19, 2023 01:00 |
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Thanks Ants posted:The old one with the rainbow was better Tebas probably felt it was too gay
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# ? Jul 19, 2023 07:29 |
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https://twitter.com/totalBarca/status/1682647755943190531
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:36 |
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the curse of the bald
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 23:34 |
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Rayo boys kicking rear end and by kicking rear end I mean Almeria stepping on their own dicks and committing multiple penalties.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 19:02 |
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Have high hopes for Sevilla, under Mendilibar they had won of the best records in the league.
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# ? Aug 11, 2023 19:44 |
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Real starting without Kroos or Modric, I wonder if this will be their default lineup.
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 20:32 |
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The new score bug is stupid and also distracting. Either choose the logo for the club or the three-letter code, don't switch between the two!
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# ? Aug 12, 2023 20:33 |
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I wonder how long till Vinicius racism occurs this season. Good debut for Jude, tchouameni + camavinga midfield looks more energetic. I still think no world class striker will hurt them. Ulio fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Aug 12, 2023 |
# ? Aug 12, 2023 20:34 |
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is happening in barca vs getafe raphinha sprinting ten yards and literally pushing one of his own players out of the way to elbow someone in the back of the head all of getafes coaching staff running onthe field while the game is still in play and not one of them getting a booking barca catching the ball two minutes later and not getting a yellow
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# ? Aug 13, 2023 21:28 |
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Eau de MacGowan posted:raphinha sprinting ten yards and literally pushing one of his own players out of the way to elbow someone in the back of the head I miss him
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# ? Aug 13, 2023 21:32 |
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Barca looking very dull and rusty.
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# ? Aug 13, 2023 21:50 |
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awesome second yellow tackle otoh with this ref it was worth a shot
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# ? Aug 13, 2023 21:57 |
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Wahey another red
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