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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Armenian Prime Minister to attend Erdogan inauguration

I believe this makes Nikol Pashinyan the first Armenian leader to visit Turkey in fifteen years.

Some progress in the trilateral Armenia-Russia-Azerbaijan talks in Moscow over restoring the old Soviet links between the two countries.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
There's reports of heavy fighting between the Armenian and Azerbaijani armies at the Sotk gold mine. The border splits the mine between the two countries.

goochtit
Nov 2, 2021



https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1700173833179639990#m

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/AvetissianAn/status/1698982686407151805

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/gunterfehlinger/status/1701232687476863333?s=46

https://twitter.com/gunterfehlinger/status/1701543781965680858?s=46

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://twitter.com/samanthajcoupe/status/1701548059279171591

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

I will not read D&D but I wonder what the nato defense rules are about disputed territories like Nagorno-Karabakh. Obviously an attack on Armenia proper would require Nato to help in defense, but probably no member countries would have accepted NK as part of Armenia. So I doubt it would have helped.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

I will not read D&D but I wonder what the nato defense rules are about disputed territories like Nagorno-Karabakh. Obviously an attack on Armenia proper would require Nato to help in defense, but probably no member countries would have accepted NK as part of Armenia. So I doubt it would have helped.

presumably they mean that armenia should have unilaterally surrendered all disputed territory and possessions and renounced any and all territorial claims

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

it's the most insipid idiocy i've seen in d&d in many years

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

i've never seen a surer sign that no one in that forum has any idea what the gently caress they're talking about

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

isn't armenia incredibly pro-russia?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Zedhe Khoja posted:

i've never seen a surer sign that no one in that forum has any idea what the gently caress they're talking about

well it would entirely address the issue of disputed borders and territories

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

yellowcar posted:

isn't armenia incredibly pro-russia?

more importantly azerbaidzjan has a lot of oil and gas

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

yellowcar posted:

isn't armenia incredibly pro-russia?

the line of argument is that since russia's not being an especially good protector in the face of azerbaijani aggression, any other course of action - even a facially ridiculous one such as attempting to join NATO - would have been better. it's loving stupid

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

as much as i love gunther i can't comprehend his reasoning most of the time lol

also wasn't azerbaijan getting material support from turkey and some other nato states as well?

lmfao

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

yellowcar posted:

as much as i love gunther i can't comprehend his reasoning most of the time lol

also wasn't azerbaijan getting material support from turkey and some other nato states as well?

lmfao

:wink:

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Btw Azerbaijan isn’t just demanding Karabakh anymore but pretty much all of southern Armenia at this point.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

Unfortunately they are on a really bad position because NATO on paper does sound more willing and ready to defend them than the CSTO after the 2020 debacle but in truth Turkey and Azerbaijan hold the West by the nuts so I think it is impossible for Armenia to even join them (and even the EU defense pact as well).

yellowcar posted:

isn't armenia incredibly pro-russia?

Pashinyan's government isn't and a lot of the population wants Armenia to join the European Union, which is exactly why the Russians did jack poo poo during the last conflict as it was likely Putin expected the loss would ensure Pashinyan would be ousted (which it almost did!).

Plutonis has issued a correction as of 23:32 on Sep 12, 2023

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1701676340850651233

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

yellowcar posted:

as much as i love gunther i can't comprehend his reasoning most of the time lol

https://twitter.com/BeudotEzra/status/1701725485850300785

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

I will not read D&D but I wonder what the nato defense rules are about disputed territories like Nagorno-Karabakh. Obviously an attack on Armenia proper would require Nato to help in defense, but probably no member countries would have accepted NK as part of Armenia. So I doubt it would have helped.

nato doesn't, or theoretically doesn't anyway, admit member states with major territorial disputes like that

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

V. Illych L. posted:

it's the most insipid idiocy i've seen in d&d in many years

These are big claims from someone who apparently can't figure out how to work a shift key like a functioning adult, no?

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


i say swears online posted:

These are big claims from someone who apparently can't figure out how to work a shift key like a functioning adult, no?

lmao

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

i say swears online posted:

These are big claims from someone who apparently can't figure out how to work a shift key like a functioning adult, no?

factcheck they need the shift key to make the "&" sign

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i say swears online posted:

These are big claims from someone who apparently can't figure out how to work a shift key like a functioning adult, no?

:mrwhite:

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i say swears online posted:

These are big claims from someone who apparently can't figure out how to work a shift key like a functioning adult, no?

german moment

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

tristeham posted:

lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d

Pashinyan is a goon?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

he's cooking

https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1702742614854787577

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/USArmyEURAF/status/1702623346645430459

the USA is training Armenian forces to suppress public protest

idk how that'll help fight off Azeri forces. Good luck on that front.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

lol that's not geat

Boredumb
Mar 10, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/USArmyEURAF/status/1702623346645430459

the USA is training Armenian forces to suppress public protest

idk how that'll help fight off Azeri forces. Good luck on that front.

Yerevan city council and mayor elections are this weekend and its been testy so far

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Boredumb posted:

Yerevan city council and mayor elections are this weekend and its been testy so far

And government buildings got trashed pretty bad after the last defeat.

But lol the country that's all about free speech is all too happy to suppress protests here and abroad and offer training in doing that.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Doubt this come as a shock to anyone following the region in the last couple months but Azerbaijan has announced a new military action against Armenia. Sounds of fighting around Stepanakert

https://twitter.com/marutvanian/status/1704067945729605695

Impkins Patootie
Apr 20, 2017





:(

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

save Armenia, Xi

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Azerbaijan launches attack on Nagorno-Karabakh as peace with Armenia ends.

Aljazeera is reporting the news.


Azerbaijan's Ministry of Defense released this statement:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
:(

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


the spirit of turbo folk is dead

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Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Bro Dad posted:

the spirit of turbo folk is dead

RIP

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