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gradenko_2000
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would anyone be willing to effort-post about the history behind these two countries and/or their current political climates? I only have the vaguest idea about this region.

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gradenko_2000
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My reading on this topic informs me that the Presidium of the USSR established a Special Administrative Region of Nagorno-Karabakh in order to prevent the Armenian Supreme Soviet from unilaterally transferring control of the region away from the Azerbaijani Supreme Soviet in violation of the Soviet Constitution, a program of cultural and economic aid was provided to finance development of the region, and a multilateral force of troops were deployed to maintain the peace.

In this sense, the ability of Moscow to act as a mediating force over Armenia and Azerbaijan does seem to be preferable to the current relationship.

gradenko_2000
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Malkina_ posted:

How long until liberals want Armenian genocide 2.0 because they’re Russia’s ally

It's not going to break through the Trump's taxes news.

Boredumb posted:

Armenia is not backed by the US lol

The talking point going around is that Trump has half-a-dozen properties in Azerbaijan :smugdon:

gradenko_2000
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sum posted:

Literally all I know about the region comes from the book Black Garden (by de Waal, it's about 20 years old at this point). That said, it seems to be the most authoritative single English source on the region at the moment so I'll summarize the key points as best I remember them.

Thanks for this. That flare-up in the late 80s under Gorbachev was covered in two pages of a book I had, but that was it, so it's nice to have a bigger perspective.

gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/Lord_Denton/status/1310471694117724164

gradenko_2000
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fanfic insert posted:

damnit, if only we had invited them into the EU NATO before this and this war wouldve never happened damnit all

gradenko_2000
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I'm not sure that we should be siding with Armenia in this, they're just as guilty of things as Azerbaijan, we should just let the Azeris have Artsakh

very normal discourse, going on, online, on the internets

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gradenko_2000
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CMANO DLC when

gradenko_2000
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:hmmyes:

gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/FArtsakh/status/1310928824352288769?s=19

Fartsakh

gradenko_2000
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gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/WASBAPPIN/status/1311472821650948097

gradenko_2000
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more like Guapo Gusano

gradenko_2000
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Ace Combat 7 was a documentary

gradenko_2000
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Turkey sending jihadists into other countries was one of the things that China was worried about with respect to Uighur extremism

gradenko_2000
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Al-Saqr posted:

I assume your saying that Therefore it’s ok to shove all the uighurs into concentration camps and systematically destroy their religion, culture, mosques, etc. and subjecting them to surveillance and extreme oppression.

I read it in a book by Seymour Hersh that was mostly about how the entire narrative we've been sold about bin Laden's killing was completely faked, and finding some level of confirmation of the take feels... odd and disconcerting.

gradenko_2000
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been laughing at this for five minutes now

loving incredible

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Comrade Koba posted:

Yeah if you look at earlier War Nerd columns he's been a Tutsi stan for years. Not sure how much of it is genuine and how much is the Gary Brecher persona.

I kept reading this as Tulsi stan lmao

gradenko_2000
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well if you zoom in on the tailpipe and enhance the fins I think you'll that according to the wikipedia page, that's clearly an Armenian missile, with an angle that can be geolocated back to a launch site in Armenia

:goonsay:

gradenko_2000
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sum posted:

I mean even if Azerbaijan got exactly what they wanted they'd basically just have mini-Chechnya on their hands except even more heavily armed and also being directly supported by their neighbors. Like what's they're end game, hope the Armenians in Nagorno Karabakh just leave?

"just leave", euphemistically, sure

gradenko_2000
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Vasukhani posted:




2 mcchickens and some 1915 sauce please

doesn't this violate the principle that two nations that both have McDonalds in them will never go to war with each other?

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gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/SpainNATO/status/1321916822833213446?s=19

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