Debate Liveposting Thread - WILL YOU SHUT UP, MAN?

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Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Well I made it about 2 minutes, can't understand what is being said cause Trump won't stop talking over Biden constantly. I guess that's hit tactic?

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 02:25

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 15:52

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

What even is this? We went from a race question to law enforcement support and Antifa

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 02:58

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Bad apple, ugh

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 02:59

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Does Trump think anyone gives a gently caress about Hunter Biden?

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 03:16

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Clean the forest floors!

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 03:19

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

We caught em all!

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 03:30

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Holy hell, Trump is encouraging voter intimidation

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 03:37

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Imagine watching that debate and thinking there is even a choice here. Joe Biden loving sucks but the alternative is, I don't even know what the hell that was.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 04:06

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

spacetoaster posted:

"I am the Democrat party" Joe isn't going to listen to any of us and I'm not going to be fooled into thinking he will.

He doesn't care about global warming, doesn't support M4A during a pandemic, and certainly won't be reforming the police or reigning in wall street.

He hasn't said, or done, anything to deserve my vote.

I too think Donald Trump is a better alternative on all these issues.

Joe Biden sucks poo poo, that's not the question here.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 04:20

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

SKULL.GIF posted:

Obama's ineffectual centrism led to Trump.

Clinton's ineffectual centrism led to W.

Carter's ineffectual centrism led to Reagan.

How far back do you need to go before you accept evidence as evidence?

Trumps effectual fascism leads to socialism

It's so obvious!

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 04:49

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

"Joe Biden would have vetoed the Green New Deal" I smugly reply as my ballot for the 2022 midterms is rejected under the new Trump Fair Voting Act.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:07

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

I can %100 agree with people saying Joe Biden sucks and will not actually bring about any real reform or change in a 4 year term. Where you're losing me is how handing Trump the reigns for another 4 years makes things better. Is this what 4D chess is???

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:25

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I think the aggravation is that most of the people really stanning biden are seemingly unwilling to perceive burnout as like, a major systemic problem with the process of offering repeated lovely dem candidates in between increasingly horrific republican ones.

I get that, I feel that too. I just don't understand after everything we've seen over the past 4 years and Trumps dismantling of every institution and decorum and norm and turning the justice department into his personal lackeys, then handing him a victory and affirmation that this was all acceptable will get us anywhere but in a worse place. If Trump gets another 4 years, bolstered by the validation of a 2nd term I don't think we will even have any shred of a real democracy left in 2024 to bring about a sweeping reform candidate.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:31

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Kreeblah posted:

Trump isn't some sort of weird anomaly. He's the natural result of the Dems continuing to tack right and letting the GOP get away with everything they want because they substantively agree on every economic issue. If Biden wins, it's not like the GOP is going to get any better. They're going to keep getting worse.

So whats the answer here? Tack even harder right and let Trump further disenfranchise progressive voters? Cause Trump winning reelection only further validates Trumps pushing the boundaries.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:37

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I guess it depends whether you think biden winning will lead to validation of his approach in the democratic party and the production of a similar candidate in 2024 who will lose to the republicans, or whether you think trump will make it literally impossible to have elections in 2024 if he wins.

Which is more probable? I guess we'll see.

I believe another 4 years of an embolden Trump will not allow for the continuation of any real democracy. Look at how many Dem candidates have won the popular vote and still lost, it's only going to get worse.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:40

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like you could also read into that "it doesn't require trump to happen and biden almost certainly won't do anything to stop it happening in future"

I didn't say Biden was going to resolve anything. The options in my mind are:

1. Trump wins and that is it, the end of American Democracy
2. Biden wins and everything is still poo poo but we buy ourselves some time to do something particularly in 2022

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:44

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 15:52

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I guess the problem I have is with the idea of buying time, because people have bought time in many, many elections to this date and the weird thing is that once the immediate threat is gone a whole lot of people suddenly become very Moderate all of a sudden.

Yeah it sucks I agree. But again I point back to the alternative which is running out of time.

There are no good options this November, but there is one wrong one.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 05:47

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