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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
can you please define what counts as "horny posting" with some examples of what is and is not allowed. i feel like this rule is too vague

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

If somebody posts something obviously gross and overly sexualized it will be an immediate probation, and there is very little doubt about when that happens. For anything "borderline", as things currently stand, sometimes people have posted something that is drifting too close and other posters have been very good about reminding them "no horny posting". In almost every case people have pulled back on their own, and that's good self-moderation (and actual moderation follows if they then choose to continue on in that vein anyway). Defining a strict guideline of what constitutes "horny" is basically a roadmap for people trying to walk the line as close as possible without going over, so I far prefer a blanket rule of "no horny posting", since it means people are going to err on the side of caution. It got taken too far in the past, posters really didn't like it, and things are better now that it is entirely gone.

this sounds too much like "i know pornography when i see it." i'd like you to write some original examples, maybe three each, of which sort of posts are acceptable and which are not

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i dunno, i think i'd have more peace of mind about it if you'd write some examples of unacceptable horny posting. i really don't want to accidentally break a rule.

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

This is true, the rule is really more intended for people bringing grudges/arguments over from an offsite like Discord/Twitch/some video sharing site etc - petty little bullshit that has no place being dragged over to the sub itself, because those things are very specifically NOT part of SomethingAwful or FIGHT ISLAND.

In terms of the caveat you'd like added, I will ask some of the other mods and the admins to detail exactly what they've found best practice for dealing with far more serious allegations for off-site things, so I can add an addendum to the rule.

so you're just not gonna respond to yea ok. cool.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

It's been less than 3 hours since they made their post, settle your kettle.

you responded to mfcrocker's post 30 minutes after it was made

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

Yes, because I caught up on the thread, answered mfcrocker's question first, followed up on it in the mod forum as I said I would, then came back and responded to yea ok, then saw your post declaring I was ignoring him.

I really don't know what you think is happening here.

i think you have a history of ignoring people and problems and you want an easy, bland, ozma-era forum where you don't have to deal with more than one sort of personality. i think you're very slow to act on anything and your answer is always "i will discuss this with the other mods in the secret mod chamber, please pm me if you have any more problems," and nothing ever seems to happen after that.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

It was less than 3 hours to answer his post, and you're literally posting this in a thread I created for open, public feedback on moderation issues.


I have had literally one person on my ignore list (not from FIGHT ISLAND) since I first joined SomethingAwful, and I have gone out of my way to respond to and reply to messages and questions from people whenever they have been sent to me, and about the only time I don't reply is when they're bitterly angry obscenity laden tirades.

if you think i am talking about the ignore list feature of the forums, then i have no idea what to say to you.

edit: and when i say slow to act, i mean stuff like waiting several years to ban rovert. i'm not sure how you could be misunderstanding me so badly.

Shayna Baszler fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Sep 30, 2020

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

Messages from Seth Rollins to me before (I did not see and read it till after the probation) and after the probation confirmed that they were not actually seeking any kind of clarification with their posts at all, they thought it was a good joke.

it's possible to be funny while also having a point. i know this is a foreign concept to a lot of people here. i still legitimately don't know what the line is, but because i try to be a little funny on the comedy forums, i am dismissed and probated.

i wanted you to write the examples because you are are the least horny person here, and you writing them would be funny. at the same time, it would illuminate what is and is not acceptable. but you think i'm trolling you by trying to have some fun with you and lighten the mood. come on dude.

Jerusalem posted:

In the two years I was moderator and rovert was active, I banned him 3 times (and gave him multiple probations besides). A permaban was considered a step too far but the admins at the time wanted to try out a subforum ban as an experiment, with the agreement that if it didn't work a permaban would be considered. Happily, it worked.

so we only had to deal with him for two years

Shayna Baszler fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Sep 30, 2020

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
any updates, detective

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
it's very hard to be creative in here because there are so many rules and regulations on what we are and are not allowed to say, and these rules are vague. once someone discovers a joke that is safe to make, it is run into the ground.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i guess i'm wrong. i'm sorry, please ignore my above post.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
adam cole is 6 feet tall

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

KungFu Grip posted:

LOOK AT THIS DUDE!!!!

he never said that

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

KungFu Grip posted:

he's 6 foot you son of a bitch

6 foot, that reminds me of a Serbian wrestler named Adam Cole... that's not Ciclope!

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Malcolm Excellent posted:

You seem really mad.

How tall are you?

glad to know it's still ok to make fun of short people in the super woke wrestling forum for sophisticated adults with good taste

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i can't make fun of Big Swole for having to poop all the time, that's just something she was born with, how dare i make a joke about someone with the pooping disease. but Adam Cole? gently caress that dude in his 6 foot tall rear end, am i right

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

As long as people are making these utterly harmless jokes and people are finding them funny, there really isn't a problem.

translation: i, jerusalem, don't have a problem with these posts, so the people who have a problem don't matter.

quote:

there is nothing stopping them from making different jokes or talking about something else on-topic for the thread

except you and your personal standards for humor.

quote:

This isn't a moderation issue at all, I'm not gonna probate people for posting jokes that people enjoy even if some people are tired of seeing it.

you do probate people for posting jokes that people enjoy, when you personally aren't one of the people enjoying them.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Jerusalem posted:

Cav lashed out in a complete over-reaction to getting called out for repeating their earlier gimmicky post, and it got reported by people who want that thread to be for actually talking about bad wrestling gimmicks and not dredging up old forums bullshit. The post was bad enough that Cav even apologized for making it in the first place, and a sixer is a reasonable reminder not to do that type of thing. LC's post really doesn't compare in my opinion.

You’re a loving idiot

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
Finally rowdy ringsports can heal. It’s been a rough few years dealing with this unfunny rear end in a top hat, but it’s time for us to come together and rebuild this professional wrestling subforum into a beautiful community filled with love and laughter.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Eat My Fuc posted:

This is more of a QCS thing but i'm afraid to post there but I think a good middle ground could be a counter showing how many times a post was reported but definitely not with names attached that seems like it will only lead to further drama.

A post can only be reported once. Unless it keeps a tally of how many times people try to report it after it’s already been reported but I don’t think it does.

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i would just like to state on the record that i do not believe that ichibahn deserved to be banned for that particular post, unless it was somehow edited after the fact. i am sorry if this post offends you. i hope that you all enjoy the rest of your evening.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i think you waited until i was away on vacation to try to change the great forum name that i came up with. that is wack.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i think it was a good post

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
big shout out to the mod team for stickying my thread on the last day people can sign up. big shout outs to the MMA mod that stickied the thread instead of the two wrestling mods we definitely have.

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
please stop loling and lmaoing at us.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
don’t be sad or angry that we’re breaking up, just try to learn from it so you won’t make the same mistakes in your next relationship

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
it's going to be for wrestling, mma, and pornography

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Brut posted:

If you think a post is bad, and you can in any way articulate why (or if it seems obvious to you, needing no explanation), please report the post.

If you think people keep making bad posts of some kind that do not break a rule, post here and suggest a rule that solves the problem, or make a new thread with an OP rule not to do the thing you dislike. Or, and I know this might seem like a totally weird thing to do on a discussion forum, but perhaps discuss your issues with fellow posters in a clearly communicated way, perhaps letting them know that something is bothering you, and figure out a way to resolve it? Worth a shot.

Whatever thread you're planning on making in the proposed imp zone? Again, :justpost: it.

But you went off and made a QCS thread about splitting the forum without talking to almost anyone here, without bringing your issues up to anyone in any way and really, without being able to point to any examples of the posting that bothers you, except for 1 isolated thread.

You might turn out to be right about your original point but the manner you went about asking for it is harming your case.

you're a dumb moron

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i think the resistance is coming from a place of fear. people are scared that the good posters will leave here and never come back, and the remainder will be left with only themselves.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
all i ask is that we have a triumvirate of mods, like the tribunal from that one video game

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
also, can someone explain the concept of humor to me? i bought an SA account so that i could read the dangan ronpa let's play, and i don't understand what a joke is, or why someone would want to laugh.

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Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
wrestling isnt sports

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