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please join dsa and do it through my affiliate link so i can get a hat before my partner https://act.dsausa.org/donate/membership2020?akid=s1830..sFdSOu edit:she works for them but i need to make the point that shitposting is the real organizing
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i apologize, i confused the PSL with Socialist Alternative. i will in no case join any organazarion that requires me to read books
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DSA candidates won something like 87% of the contests they were in this election. We can argue (not here) about the efficacy of electoral politics but if that's something you're interested in and want to contribute to, they're getting results. Also I posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here, I think: If you're interested in organizing your workplace but are starting from zero and have no idea what to do, IWW can be a great resource. Even if you don't want to join the org for whatever reason, they will probably be able to help out and/or point you towards people and groups that can.
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apropos to nothing posted:please do what the title of thread says what if i form one
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apropos to nothing posted:please do what the title of thread says for your own safety, if nothing else; fash come a-knockin' much easier if they know a leftie isn't a regular of local groups, organizations and of course, a good union would raise hell if something happened to you for example: a friend of mine, a teacher, received some rape threats because of her voluntary work with socialist feminist education. Because she is with the local socialist workers' league, a couple of guys of the org and antifa friends found out who were the fashy fucks and after a scruff, got two of them arrested (the other two got bailed but were freaked out and never seen around here)
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breadnsucc posted:organizations suck because they always fall towards liberalism I think the issue is that we live in a culture/society where any organization of significant size tends to end up being managed/lead by people who are careerists in some way. There's essentially a job sector of "progressive political organizer" that will infect most left-leaning organizations. I also think that the structure of our economy essentially makes it much more difficult for significant organizations to spring from labor, because it's not like most people are working in situations where they have a chance to form solidarity with large numbers of other workers, like in a factory or something. I'm not really sure what can be done about any of this. It's important to be cognizant of the reality of left-branded organizations, but I'm not sure how to ensure organizations don't devolve into just another part of the "progressive activism sector."
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Ytlaya posted:I think the issue is that we live in a culture/society where any organization of significant size tends to end up being managed/lead by people who are careerists in some way. There's essentially a job sector of "progressive political organizer" that will infect most left-leaning organizations. I think the main problem comes from the idea that has been disseminated from the West about what is a "political organization", tbqf any social organization within the scope of what we are talking about here is also a political one - what varies is the level of action towards the political. The simplest nowadays would be tenant leagues/groups which are more necessary than ever given the general habitation disaster due to covid and the economy, and talking with your neighbors about rent being hosed up is massively practical
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apropos of nothing's posts make me want to check out SA, but their only texas chapter is in houston and i'm in dallas/fort worth 
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apropos to nothing posted:please do what the title of thread says no thanks
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endlessly relitigating Stalin vs Trotsky is for losers but SAlt is all about it. if they’re doing good work in yr area tho go for it
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Finicums Wake posted:apropos of nothing's posts make me want to check out SA, but their only texas chapter is in houston and i'm in dallas/fort worth i like the houston sa people you should move down here
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Finicums Wake posted:apropos of nothing's posts make me want to check out SA, but their only texas chapter is in houston and i'm in dallas/fort worth we have members there: https://www.facebook.com/NTXSocialistAlt if you want to, pm me and I can try and put you in touch with someone there or you can message that page and theyll prolly respond within a day or so
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apropos to nothing posted:we have members there: https://www.facebook.com/NTXSocialistAlt too late they're moving to houston i beat you to it
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Anyone have opinions or experiences with SEIU? I want to be in a union, but I really can't afford dues to an organization if they don't really do anything.
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Halloween Jack posted:Anyone have opinions or experiences with SEIU? I want to be in a union, but I really can't afford dues to an organization if they don't really do anything. if anything, there is always the IWW also dunno if "class associations" exist in the USA or if they go by another name, these are labor organizations that are more informal but have means and resources to help out and in some cases are the best way to go if the legal union is a conciliatory one
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dead gay comedy forums posted:if anything, there is always the IWW He specified doing anything
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Halloween Jack posted:Anyone have opinions or experiences with SEIU? I want to be in a union, but I really can't afford dues to an organization if they don't really do anything. what is your profession? if seiu represents your shop you join
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I'm an administrator at a public university. I know some people who have joined SEIU but I don't think they actually have a chapter organized for our institution yet. I haven't seen anything about any actions or negotiations. It's very confusing.
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"don't mourn - organize" -some dude's last post before being permabanned (he wasn't funny and honestly i never liked him anyway)
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm an administrator at a public university. I know some people who have joined SEIU but I don't think they actually have a chapter organized for our institution yet. I haven't seen anything about any actions or negotiations. It's very confusing. so depending on where you are you may already have a state/public employee union or something similar. likely covered by CWA, AFSCME, or SEIU
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Halloween Jack posted:Anyone have opinions or experiences with SEIU? I want to be in a union, but I really can't afford dues to an organization if they don't really do anything. pls check out the workplace organizing thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3909994 usually you don't pay dues until a union has recognition from the employer, google's new union being the exception SEIU is a pretty mainstream liberal union. not perfect but way better than not being in a union
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yeah like if i was part of an organizing committee and had my pick of unions i would not pick seiu. unfortunately thats not usually the situation youre presented with
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apropos to nothing posted:yeah like if i was part of an organizing committee and had my pick of unions i would not pick seiu. unfortunately thats not usually the situation youre presented with right- so just to summarize for Halloween Jack, you gotta do things in the right order. it's not "we don't have a union organized, should we join SEIU?", it's:
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kingcobweb posted:right- so just to summarize for Halloween Jack, you gotta do things in the right order. it's not "we don't have a union organized, should we join SEIU?", it's: if they're at a public university they're likely already organized with a union and they just need to figure out who to get in touch with
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bump from page 4 hopefully got 2 irl dsa signups yesterday. good short convo and he committed to sign up with his wife. will have to follow up to make sure they did (ideally you get them to sign online right then and there, but we were at the workplace and hands were full). im confident they will join though
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Last I heard my local SAlt chapter split over stupid bullshit and the new org took like half the money the old org had raised and pissed a bunch of people off, should I join the splitters or the OG chapter
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Badactura posted:Last I heard my local SAlt chapter split over stupid bullshit and the new org took like half the money the old org had raised and pissed a bunch of people off, should I join the splitters or the OG chapter do you know why they actually split? i’d probably join whoever seems cooler
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jarofpiss posted:do you know why they actually split? i’d probably join whoever seems cooler IIRC someone was accused of being a sex pest. I am getting this secondhand from my friend who stuck with the org until they quit out of frustration. I'll ask which was cooler
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Badactura posted:IIRC someone was accused of being a sex pest. I am getting this secondhand from my friend who stuck with the org until they quit out of frustration. I'll ask which was cooler you can also look into your local DSA chapter if you figure SA isnt for you wherever you are
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That's what my friend did so I will follow up w them and see how they've been liking DSA.
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what are some good Philadelphia orgs to join/donate to? I've already got a recurring donation to Philly Socialists and might be able to support one more. due to a family issue I can't do much if any irl work for the near future so I will give money in lieu of that. don't say DSA please
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indigi posted:what are some good Philadelphia orgs to join/donate to? I've already got a recurring donation to Philly Socialists and might be able to support one more. due to a family issue I can't do much if any irl work for the near future so I will give money in lieu of that. don't say DSA please Philly Liberation Center can always use donations or volunteers
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Pomeroy posted:Philly Liberation Center can always use donations or volunteers drat they're like right down the block from Philly Socialists. anyway they're also getting some of my money now, thanks for bringing it to my attention. they seem cool as hell
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indigi posted:drat they're like right down the block from Philly Socialists. anyway they're also getting some of my money now, thanks for bringing it to my attention. they seem cool as hell Very welcome, and sorry if I've been a drunk belligerent rear end before, I'm trying to be more disciplined, and less vicious. And yes, they are very good comrades.
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Pomeroy posted:Very welcome, and sorry if I've been a drunk belligerent rear end before, I'm trying to be more disciplined, and less vicious. And yes, they are very good comrades. no worries, it's cool + I enjoy your posting 
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indigi posted:no worries, it's cool + I enjoy your posting thank you comrade.
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