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Hold mod elections and hold them to the rules in their decisions. A mod who can punish at will regardless of any rules regarding discussion will not create an environment other than the one that mod wants. If you want a community based discussion, involve the community in choosing their mods and, ideally, creating the rules. I would also like to point out that anyone currently probated has no voice in this discussion. And the current mod decisions are obviously problematic or we would not be having this thread.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2020 01:13 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 10:53 |
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Jaxyon posted:We're talking about meeting zero-effort agro shitposts with increasingly harsh punishment but why don't we practice what we preach and put together a restorative justice model? historically, Thunderdome has been used when someone is just aggro about a position and refuses to actually defend it. put them in a cage match to see how devoted they really are
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 04:58 |
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Discendo Vox posted:It becomes less work over time as the shitheads actually start getting perma'd or forumbanned. The "indirect" benefit of removing bad posters creates a space where good posting can actually happen. Norms shift, assholes leave and don't come back, and very slowly "The bannings will continue until morale improves"
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 05:57 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Its a forums ban from someone that earned it for toxic shitposting for years, that goes into threads to be an rear end in a top hat and try and own his forum enemies. Literally its one of the worst posters we have that does not add anything to a discussion, and instead goes into a thread and posts one liners to cause derails and attack others. It would be better to find another hill to fight on because there are numerous examples from the last week that could have earned the same punishment from said poster For what? I personally think YMB is dismissive, smug, and consistently confrontational. They also post plenty of facts and historical examples and have absolutely no place being removed simply because they make people upset about being challenged.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 13:16 |
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A solid defense with brilliantly employed rhetoric. Arguments like these are what make D&D the forum it is today.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 13:31 |
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ronya posted:There's no amount of that is going to advance any debate in a conflict between an essentially liberal outlook and an essentially radical one. Very definitely not snarky one-liners, nor derisive BOO! GET OFF THE STAGE! shitposting-as-praxis. Maintaining the debate space is exactly what the mods are actually supposed to be doing? Like if D&D is a space where you arent allowed to criticize the past of Joe Biden and all leftist are banished to to wading through pages of TORP on CSPAM, then the mods could feel free to codify that into the posted rules and save themselves the trouble of trying to communicate that message through eldritch probation reasons like its Plato's loving cave. "contentious, amorphous rules of engagement" cant really be the problem when they write the loving rules
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 13:53 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 10:53 |
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Athanatos posted:This thread was entirely on me. I got so many "Hey can you review this probe I got?" or I'd see something queued that I had no idea why and have to ask. I made this to get a better feel of D&D and what goes on here. What issues it has and how I can help. Will there be any substantial changes from the feedback received
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 15:43 |