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Crazycryodude posted:The fact that they're a million people crammed into hastily-pressurized caves over a few months as a propaganda stunt, with no local economic base, is a pretty good reason to keep Luna under direct COMINTERN administration for now. I don't necessarily want to commit ourselves to that forever, but the colony's barely even established and surely can't stand on its own yet. Someday it will be able to, but full independence and self-governance is a bit extreme at this current moment. As a refugee from the capitalist hellworld formerly known as New England, I must disagree in part. Not withstanding the fact that this lunar colony relies upon Earth resources to sustain itself, it is still manned by colonists from Earth producing labor in order to turn it into a self sustaining colony. While they may need guidance from Earth to guide the development of the lunar colony, they deserve to have representation in this body that makes these decisions for them. We should also set upon strict but possible conditions for self rule with agreement from the colony, lest we lose them entirely by not acknowledging their concerns and needs.
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Luna: BACD Gladio: BACD Survey Ships: B Survey Priorities: BCA S-17, Radiation Cleanup: Yes F-18, One Million Citizens Autonomy Requirement: No F-19, A Ship Naming Scheme: Yes JR-20, The No First Strike Policy: Yes A-21, the Lunar Self-Defense Forces: Yes S-22, Logistics Expansion: Yes Y-23, the Constructed Language Study: Yes
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Crazycryodude posted:Prefixes: E D F G C B A good enough for me
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Given our recent success in inventing technology to rapidly clean up radiological waste, I am hopeful we should be able to use this to our advantage in bringing the Commonwealth of New England into the Comintern. As an expat, I have been in conversation with like-minded individuals formerly of Boston in the refugee camps outside Berkshire county.
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Nov 8, 2020 16:15
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New Amsterdam/New York is NOT New England, do we have Gladio infiltrators in the thread already?
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Nov 8, 2020 20:12
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Antilles posted:Indeed, this Gladios problem seems to be a bigger and deeper issue than previously feared. We should look to creating a special task force to deal with them, perhaps with counter-intelligence training since they seem to be heavily into cloak and dagger work. Maybe even set aside lab time to upgrade the intelligence gathering ability of the satelites? We could call the team the Exceptional Communists, or X-COM for short
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Speleothing posted:Gladio is far more likely to deliver nuclear weapons in a truck than a missile. Particularly if this last-surviving American submarine has been on deployment for a decade without a dock to service the tubes and refresh the fuel. As a former member of the Commonwealth of New England, I must remind the good Comrade that there was a US sub base in Groton, CT. The USN also held control of the sub base in Holy Loch, Scotland. I think it's likely that those locations and materials were scrapped after sustaining significant damage during the war and the important surviving technologies and personnel were moved to different locations to support any surviving submarines.
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I am formally proposing that we start working efforts to realign the remaining ex US polities in North America to being under the Comintern. I figure we could work on with two simultaneous steps: 1) Continuing our public outreach by offering aid and support to the communities of the former USA, and 2) Step up intelligence actions, connecting with and supplying materials to communist groups in those areas to help influence the populations there to shift support it the Comintern. Ideally we focus on the polities on the east coast first, as if there were any GLADIO held locations supporting any hostile naval forces based out the North Sea, they'd be there.
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Mister Bates posted:Yeah, I'm thinking about infrastructure right now, and something like this is coming, in addition to another one listing all previously passed legislation. What I may have to do if this level of activity continues is actually move voting off-site too using one of several utilities. *slams fists repeatedly on table* Infrastructure week! Infrastructure week! Infrastructure week!
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Nov 11, 2020 22:49
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I'm confused about the concerns over sovereignty of the lands repatriated to indigenous tribes. Should the bill become law, it would be only executed under areas in control of the Comintern, correct? Then we would cede the lands to the respective tribes and hope they decided to rejoin the Comintern?
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SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy YES SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans YES HC-40, Integrate North America YES S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology YES A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins YES JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act YES I-44, Administrative Overhaul YES I-45, Diplomatic Overtures YES P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 YES NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project YES F-48, Organizational Capacity YES F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency YES P-50, X-COM YES Z-51, IRPA YES I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development YES W-53, Lunplan Expansion YES W-54, Medals YES W-55, Rename the Comintern YES H-56, More Medals YES E: changed vote for I-52, upon clarification from OP HiHo ChiRho fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Rhjamiz posted:Honestly if the Armed Ship Initiative didn’t come with the cap on industry I’d vote for it. Yep, same here. Just need to raise the cap then I would be happy to commit to it
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Fivemarks posted:HC-40, Integrate North America - Yes, but not through peaceful means. New Afrika does not believe that an olive branch should be handed out to the genocidal settler states and the slaver led oppressor nations of the old united states. They should be integrated by force, with a Robespierre-esque GREAT TERROR to rip out the remains of the old southern political class and the racist political class of the former United States. Additionally, any new map of North America must take into account the native people's of the continent and their stolen land, including the native peoples who were created purely through the mass horror of the Atlantic Slave Trade. I am hoping that once control is consolidated in North America, we can begin to deliberate on reparations for the descendants of slaves and indigenous people. As for those comrades who do not wish to be like the former CIA mounting coups in South America, I must remind them that elements of GLADIO including CIA agents are likely operating in these areas. To not be including intelligence ops in our integration efforts will likely lead to failure, not to mention would let them gather even more strength.
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Let's think about this rationally comrades. Sure it seems that we are receiving a distress signal from a US naval ship thought lost at sea for over 60 years, but it could mean Operation Gladio is more advanced than we thought 
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah it's not worded like some third or fourth generation descendants in an alien zoo sending a.... morse code signal from the radio transmitter they built in their zoo? It's worded like a ship broadcasting a distress call on Earth in 1918, likely because it's a recording of a ship broadcasting a distress call on Earth in 1918. I can't imagine that if there are humans alive there right now that they would word a message like that and broadcast it to ??? with ??? in the hopes that ??? Yeah, but how would a ship from 1918 be able to continually broadcast a recorded distress signal for 60 years? They could have a phonograph or phonogram to record it, sure but that would also be pretty odd to find on a waship carrying ores, no? Also, even if they made a recording, power to sustain and maintain the ship that long would be necessary to broadcast that message. I don't think the sailers would be mining for coal all that time, nevermind the supplies tools and knowledge to keep that ship running.
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh I mean the aliens are looping the distress call they recorded back in 1918, not that the human crew somehow still is Well moot because of the last mini update, since it's clearly not a loop but someone actually communicating with us. However, if it is aliens, it's very weird for them to impersonate a lost naval vessel from over 50 years. It could have done a multitude of messages, with a variety of different formats, so why use an archaic language and delivery system when they clearly didn't have to?
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Antilles posted:They've been down there are year, so unless they've run out of food and water and are on the verge of death I say they can sit for a week or two while we set up the infrastructure to create a proper research base/medical facility/quarantine hub just outside the ruins. It'll also lay the foundations for the eventual xenoarchaeological site we'll be setting up... in three years or so. Those people have had no training of any sort to be living in a base off earth long term. They should be transferred over to the Moon, if only for psychological reasons.
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Crazycryodude posted:The Awake: C this works
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Glad to see you and this back
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Grizzwold posted:I'm more worried about telling them everyone they know is probably dead either of old age or the collapse of the US, personally. I don't know how much they'd know about WW1 but "there were another couple fuckoff huge wars" seems at least simpler to explain to people from a military background. Well they were caught by aliens while operating a sub in 1918, so I think they got a good idea of what was happening in WW1. Other than that, agreed they are going to take the "asleep for almost 65 years" pretty hard. Just not as hard if we have like Vikings and Crusaders packed in tubes here too.
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While I think investing in propulsion technology to be useful in the long run, we have more immediate concerns: These rogue GLADIO elements, a sizeable amount of conscious human beings kidnapped to an alien base on Mars, an even larger amount unconscious due to unknown alien technology, new alien ships in said base, etc. We need offensive capabilities in the event any of the potential alien civilizations we have evidence of are still active, not to mention our known hostile elements on Earth. I also think quickly understanding the alien technology on this Martian base will be promising to give us insights to propulsion technology, not to mention potential weapons, defense and understanding to safely activate the cryo chambers our fellow men are being imprisoned in.
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Cards on the table time. We can't afford another war now, hot or cold or in 50 years time with a Space IJN colonizing the system with potentially two alien threats to humanity.
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Crazycryodude posted:The whole "oh boo hoo poor us we were colonized too you know" narrative is conveniently ignoring some pretty critical history between 1905 and 1945 (which might I remind everyone Hirohito himself was personally around for a solid chunk of). The oh so very "subtle" attempt to imply they have vast amounts of TNE's is a bluff or at least bending the truth a bit to spook us, and they wouldn't be asking for us to build them a starter fleet if they felt confident the Hawaiians/domestic programs could do it. They put up a good front, but they're professional diplomats that's literally their job. Absolutely agree. Also we know they've either been behind or supporting GLADIO, given their threats. Any dealing must include what they know about it: assets, agents funding etc - and stopping any involvement on Japan's part in it. Then once our research is completed we can verify on our end how complete and accurate they have been with us and act accordingly.
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So, just how insufferable are the third world maoist groups in the former US in this alternative timeline?
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The only political entity that should be raising the USA flag at all is the US government. Which doesn't exist, so it's a moot point. Thank the astronauts, put down a plaque or two and go find the secret gladio/nazi moon base
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If we're reasonably certain the Revenge is being used as a dead man's trigger, we could try flushing it out. I don't think it's a good idea to do it by explicitly calling out that we have an idea where the sub is. Publicly disclosing that we found the Titanic would be more subtle, especially if we say we're going to be searching for other famous shipwrecks.
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switching to Boat Stuck plan
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Then later on, on the dive home I called the sub from a payphone I said I was the reds and that GLADIOs in jail The state looks down on bourgeoisie And that's about the time that bitch hung up on me Nobody likes you when you're forty-three And are still more amused by ultimatum calls Who the hell is nuking me? Comrades say I should act my class What's my class again? What's my class again?…
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Your depth was holdin', ripped ships, wrecks were showin' Hot sub, no wind was blowin' Where you think you're going, baby? Hey, I just pinged you and this is crazy But here's my number, so call me, maybe It's hard to look right at you, subby But here's my number, so call me, maybe And all our other subs try to chase thee But here's my number, so call me, maybe
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Millions of artists, sharing the same restless dream around the world, wake up and start drawing and sculpting artwork of Johnny Five-Aces.
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NewMars posted:My guess? Most likely, this place is just a fairly isolated outer system that was never meant to get long term infrastructure set up, so there's no harvesting facilities. It was likely either for research purposes or military detection ones. But if it's distant and isolated, you would still need fuel to send ships back home. You would expect it to be cheaper to set up a harvesting facility than ship refined sorium fuel to the edge of nowhere. My guess is there was a facility at one point that got wiped in a battle, but it was such a long time ago we just don't see any remaining debris from it.
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