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Oh boy here we go again! RE: Lunar independance AddedSpace raises a valid point. Although Lunagrad is nominally self-sufficient, nominal remains the key word. I'm all for making the flag official and beginning the process of them becoming a full nation, but let's make it slow and gradual, and not the equivalent of the Hawaiian announcement all over again. The prospect of fascist counterrevolutionaries on the moon is indeed a very worrying one. I propose making a troop transport a priority. The essence here is to get boots, properly equipped boots, on regolith as soon as possible. I don't care too much if it'll be obsolete a month after launch, right now the enemy within has guns up there, and we don't. Once troops arrive on the moon, they should work with the local communes to root out these threats as soon as possible, and re-educate them through the harshest manual labour that can be productively carried out in an isolated camp on the moon.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2020 21:26 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 11:37 |
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[star wars on the moon] The moon's a dangerous place, right? A dedicated emergency-response, search-and-rescue, all that kind of stuff team makes sense. That's what armies often end up doing in peacetime anyway. If the gladius thing blows over, then that's all it'll be until the next crisis. If it doesn't, we'll be praised for our vigilant foresight. No matter how we dress it up, there's trouble brewing and we need the means to address it, which we currently do not have.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2020 00:14 |
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Mister Bates posted:Yeah it would honestly be faster to transport a ground training facility and the appropriate minerals to the Moon and then raise troops locally. Sounds good to me! The KGB folks will be pleased to hear we're looking into how warfare off-world would work, with their space boogeymen. Real advanced alien societies would long have adopted socialism, of course, but we can throw them a bone and wrangle some more resources out them, surely.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2020 00:40 |
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On the matter of the status of Lunagrad: BDAC On the matter of the terrorist cell Gladio: BDCA On the matter of Survey Ship Design: B On the matter of Survey Priority: ACB On resolution S-17: Yes On resolution F-18: No On resolution F-19: Yes On resolution JR-20: No On resolution A-21: Yes On resolution S-22: Yes, preferably after the foxfire tech push is complete. The armour especially is a big deal. On resolution Y-23: Yes, and I want to see the horrible complications it’ll cause
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 13:41 |
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You're thinking of too sophisticated an attack. If Gladio goes for the shipyards it'll be by assassination, explosives, or outright ramming a vessel into them. Basically what I'm saying is that Hawaiians are a problem. At TNE speeds it is seconds from anywhere in earth orbit to those shipyards.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 20:51 |
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They're also made primarily for finding TNEs with their interdimensional properties. Uranium might just be too... pedestrian to detect with such precision.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2020 21:50 |
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SK-38 No SK-39 Abstain HC-40 Yes S-41 Yes A-42 Yes JR-43 Yes I-44 No I-45 No P-46 No NM-47 Yes F-48 Yes F-49 Yes P-50 Yes Z-51 Abstain I-52 Yes W-53 Yes W-54 Yes W-55 Yes H-56 Yes Let's be wary of committing to too many big investments all at once. We want to get our back yard in order, deal with Gladio, and build up means of dealing with future instability. Mars is an unexpected opportunity we should look to explot. Things like colonising Venus are premature at this stage.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2020 18:16 |
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PurpleXVI posted:I think it's time to train some of those advanced sensors on the Bermuda Triangle from orbit. Imagine Iron Sky but with submarines. Pyroi posted:they really need a new navigator, they're way off. Must've cheaped out on that, capitalists. See if we can get a radio conversation going, let's not treat radio operators as ten-foot poles, regardless of any potential Polish ethnicity or actual height.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 22:48 |
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Rhjamiz posted:You are all extremely timid little rabbits. Radio conversations first, _then_ poking it with a stick to see if it bites. Bringing a stick not optional.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 23:10 |
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Barsoom isn't even a little bit prepared to handle this many people, but it could be quite feasible to set up a quarantined refugee camp near (not in) Lunagrad. I agree that shipping these people right back to Earth isn't worth the risk, but we can certainly give them a view of home, a lot less light-lag, and some creature comforts. Make it a nice propaganda piece.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 14:21 |
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we have no reason to believe there is anything of note out on those frozen rocks deep in the cold and dark. We should not be basing comintern-wide research and construction priorities on wildly extrapolated hunches. I could see re-tasking the existing survey vessels to prioritise the Jovian moons and, say, Titan, over the asteroid surveying they're apparently doing now. Doing a crash R&D project and dedicated ship design to maybe find other alien bases that might be in the solar system and could have people in them that in theory could be waking up and short on stuff is out of proportion. Assuming this alien base is on the most remote arse-end-of-nowhere rock we can think of to make the project even more of an expensive boondoggle isn't helping the case any.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 01:12 |
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I'll throw my weight behind Boat stuck. The added risk over an immediate strike is worth the potential payoff in intelligence.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2021 08:53 |
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Honestly this is a stellar performance and a big win for the Reds. We took the lynchpin out of their plans and kneecapped most of the followup. Reducing our opponent's big strike by an order of magnitude, if not two, is nothing to sneeze at. If that package heading for Europe hits it will of course be a tragedy, but we have already stopped that tragedy from being repeated a hundredfold. Let us start the propaganda machine spinning and forever brand the reactionaries with this blind, violent-lashing out at innocents, and cripple what sympathy they may have left.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2021 10:10 |
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zanni posted:That's in the works! We've been planning a bit over in the discord, I'm putting together the proposal and we have a goon volunteer to run them. Hello, my name is a goon volunteer to run them. I'll be typing up something more comprehensive when we're not in cliffhanger time, but my angle is essentially a bunch of spooks simultaniously pointing at the resounding succes at kneecapping 90% of Gladio's efforts, and also whatever is going to end up happening with that shuttle and how lucky we had to get with the one geosurvey guy hitting jackpot on Revenge. We need better coordination, and we need it before the next potential disaster rears its head. Where will that disaster come from, with Gladio having taken its shot and missed? That's what we'll be working tirelessly to find out. The world is not yet united under the red banner, and the threat of aliens is an all too real gaping hole in our knowledge. (Because I intend to play an international organisation I will inevitably end up using nationalities represented by other players, it's up to them whether whatever my dudes and dudettes end up saying is an outlying or mainstream view in their factions.)
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2021 22:52 |
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We have evidence of multiple factions of aliens actively warring against each other in our system. We must assume at least some aliens will be hostile, and we face a terrifying technology gap. But let's continue this discussion after the issue of the imrpovised Gladio ICBM has been resolved.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2021 07:07 |
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They are striking at a symbol of socialist progress. Besides, it seems to be a last-minute plan B with the main target being Lunagrad, the even greater symbol of socialist progress. We suffered a tragedy today, but we only dodged something magnitudes worse by a hair's breadth.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 09:58 |
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NewMars posted:Still wondering how recent developments in the USSR will reverberate across the orthodox M-L sphere. Can you say 'Revisionism'? They can and are.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2022 15:31 |
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We should move all the psychic nonsense to the moon where it can get a lunacy bonus.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2022 08:28 |
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It does raise the question of which forum they would be entitled to join. An Antarctic forum isn't really on the to-do list, though it is its own continent. South America maybe?
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# ¿ May 8, 2022 17:54 |
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How publically did we announce the approach of our ship to Minerva? We need to start thinking on what our PR angle is. Do we keep schtumm and figure out what's going on before announcing anything, or do we release what we know already? There is also essentially no way they haven't detected us, unless they're like the Antarctica survivors and just keeping their heads down in the black. In that case though, they can't really do anything about us. In either case we should attempt to make contact, but careful-like, if only because we don't want to risk space plague or whatever.
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# ¿ May 16, 2022 16:10 |
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mossyfisk posted:In order to avoid any miscommunication, we should avoid blindly pursuing our own preconceived notions of diplomacy and engage them on their own terms.
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# ¿ May 17, 2022 06:59 |
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But what if their flavour of socialism is Hoxhaism?
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# ¿ May 17, 2022 19:22 |
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Depends, some form of humanity must've been present when they arrived in-system. Send them different languages, somehow marking which is which? Try archaic and dead ones too, like Latin.
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 09:57 |
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Right, now that I'm home and not phoneposting: I'd like to point out this exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos_language. In fact, the fundamentals of this were worked out well before the GRW, and I'm sure MOSA linguists have some interesting further work on a dusty shelf somewhere. I believe even the fundamentals completed before the war should be enough to ask them whether their opinion on Mars is positive or negative.
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 19:46 |
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Convert!
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 08:51 |
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If we have the periodic table and we have pictures, we can start building a chemistry dictionary, and you can start having conversations about how their biology works. Should eventually allow us to give them blueprints or other construction instructions for more specific communication hardware.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2022 15:53 |
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NewMars posted:Note: apparently our fester ships have been looking at venus and finding absolutely nothing for six months straight. We should really redeploy them or something. A wealth of conventional research data! Think of the geologists, the planetologists, the children! (And give these poor souls some shore leave, yeah)
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2022 11:39 |
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TNE deposits don't grow back, afaik. I'm unsure if comets ever spawn in post system generation, though.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2022 17:20 |
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ASIA AFRICA EUROPE AMERICA
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2022 10:28 |
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Asterite34 posted:So the Minervans seem to have very broadly similar liquid water-oxygen-carbon biochemistry and temperature tolerances to us (as well as a sense of humor, that's neat). I mean, while we're on the topic of extending the Socialist Aid Program...
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2022 15:41 |
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unwantedplatypus posted:Ask the Minervans if they want to join the Comintern, extend a tentacle in friendship! I'd certainly approve of having that on the table in the long run, but I'd like a better grasp of both practical concerns like how many they are, how dire their situation is, etc. as well as political concerns like ideology and wether they still consider themselves part of some larger interstellar polity.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2022 16:34 |
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Do we have any other formations equipped for vacuum combat? Now that we have relatively short-term logistics to Mars might as well send a somewhat larger formation on exercises.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2022 16:12 |
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Time to stress-test our newly acquired xenolinguistic skills.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2022 07:15 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Gonna be the voice of dissident and suggest that we not tell the Martian holdouts that we're actively tracking and logging their remaining active bases by giving them supplies And, by process of elimination, which bases and surface access routes we're not tracking. Could totally start a prime sequence broadcast though and try to make formal contact, though.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2022 22:14 |
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Does cross-referencing this with our own Martian climatological science give us any information about the age of the document? Regarding the cryotubes, we should avoid waking them all up at once. Set up infrastructure, fly in experts, sit down and really think about procedures and contingencies, and then start cracking them open a few at a time, process whoever comes out, and rinse and repeat until we run out.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2024 14:20 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 11:37 |
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Would we be able to safely re-freeze any people, human or otherwise, who turn out to require facilities we can't supply? That would cover for a lot of unknowns re: aliens.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 20:42 |