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I know that i'm late, but, uh- As a representative for the People's Republic of New Afrika, I believe that we should prioritize the development of an advanced version of Luna and Tranquility intended to explore the solar system: this ship should be intended for long range travel and be equipped with Geological Survey Systems so that we can identify TNE's on other celestial bodies, most notably Luna, Mars, the other inner planets, and the Jovian System. It is the opinion of my nation that we cannot have enough Trans Newtonian Elements, and that outposts and colonies throughout the solar system would be most helpful in developing space industry. We would also propose that, in future colonization efforts, especially in extra-solar colonization, the initial colonists should be drawn from a different continent's Internationale members. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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Once again, New Afrika suggests that we hold off on future colonization until we can survey other worlds for Trans Newtonian Elements. It is one thing to move people off earth, yes- but these communities will have no future unless they can find economic activity. That said, New Afrika also proposes that efforts must be undertaken to make Luna a center of transnewtonian industry. The lower gravity on the moon will make heavy industry there far easier than on the Earth at the moment; It might also be far cheaper to ship raw materials to Luna itself than to earth.
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New Afrika wholeheartedly endorses the ascension to the brotherhood of nations that of the people of Luna. We would also like to take this chance to propose that Luna be the model for which future colonies of humankind be treated, with the threshold for recognition as a nation and full member of the Internationale for colonies being 1 million inhabitants. Further, New Afrika suggests that Geological Surveys of our system must focus on the Luna and Mars first, then the Asteroid Belt. As of now, Venus and Mercury are not worth it. In a bit of purely moralistic theater, New Afrika also suggests that the first FTL capable exploration ships built by humanity should be named the Tsiolkovsky class, with ships named after famous rocket scientists and astrologers, such as Robert Goddard, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, and Hermann Oberth. New Afrika would also like to propose a ban on the construction of spacefaring warships until a threat to humanity and the Internationale is encountered. Defensive armament is perfectly fine, but we must do all we can to avoid spreading war to the cosmos. While it is unlikely that all intelligent life will be good socialists, we can at least hope that they will not be xenophobic, and that the horrors of the so called Age of Exploration can not be repeated. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 06:54
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- Luna: ABCD - Gladio: CDBA - Survey Ships: BA - Survey Priorities: CBA - S-17, Radiation Cleanup: YES - F-18, One Million Citizens Autonomy Requirement: YES - F-19, A Ship Naming Scheme: YES - JR-20, The No First Strike Policy: YES - A-21, the Lunar Self-Defense Forces: YES - S-22, Logistics Expansion: YES - Y-23, the Constructed Language Study: No - Let us not make the same mistakes and oppression as the nations of Europe did, in eliminating local and regional languages in favor of a single national language. New Afrika would also like to believe that this body has no counterrevolutionary members, but cautions suspicion of those who vote against giving autonomy to colonies. For what reason do we wish to repeat the mercantilism and folly of Britain and France?
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Oct 27, 2020 05:26
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Crazycryodude posted:Humanity's place among the stars needs to be not just explicitly internationalist, but transcending the concept of Earth nationalisms all together. The people residing on the Moon obviously have a right to representation and local governance befitting their unique conditions, but creating new independent nations is counter to the socialist project and formalizes divisions we should be eliminating. Incorporation as an autonomous oblast within the Comintern allows for local self-governance while still maintaining the primacy of the socialist project over loyalty to any specific piece of planetary crust and/or regolith. We know full well what happens when one papers over local issues with "loyalty to the center'. It got us Jim Crow and the failure of reconstruction. No, in order to fully combat any hint of counterrevolutionary fervor, colonies must be given independence and full, equal membership in the Comintern. It's that, or we are all nothing but slaves to the russians. It may not matter to you, but we will not wish the fate of slavery on any of humankind.
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Prefixes:CEFDGBA Research: DCBA Socialist Aid Program: ABC I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: No A-25, Service Medals: Vote Yes K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: Yes, but in a derussianized form. F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear:Yes F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup:Yes F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: Yes L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: Yes I-31, Five-Year Plans: No H-32, The Mars Program: Yes N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: Yes N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes S-35, FESTER: Yes A-36, Space Autonomy Model: Yes A-37, A Common Language for Space: Yes
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New Afrika believes, wholeheartedly, that to end the Socialist Aid Program so early is counterrevolutionary and against the will of the people- and is possibly indicative of infiltration of the Comintern's highest deliberative body by agents of Gladio.
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Nov 5, 2020 15:44
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New Afrika wholeheartedly supports the motion to send the lander- and further, believes that plans must be drawn up to send a multinational (read: not Russian) expedition to Mars as soon as possible.
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Nov 7, 2020 23:51
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But what of Involuntary settlers? The African Diaspora in the Americans didn't ask to be brought here, and didn't ask to be tools in the colonization and genocide of native peoples... but, well, here we are. We can't simply be shipped back to Africa.
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Nov 13, 2020 04:59
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The peoples of the African Diaspora should not simply be swapped around to remain as an oppressed underclass. We deserve our own ethnic homeland where we can make laws and govern ourselves.
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SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy - Yes SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans - Yes HC-40, Integrate North America - Yes, but not through peaceful means. New Afrika does not believe that an olive branch should be handed out to the genocidal settler states and the slaver led oppressor nations of the old united states. They should be integrated by force, with a Robespierre-esque GREAT TERROR to rip out the remains of the old southern political class and the racist political class of the former United States. Additionally, any new map of North America must take into account the native people's of the continent and their stolen land, including the native peoples who were created purely through the mass horror of the Atlantic Slave Trade. S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology - Yes A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins - Yes JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act - Yes I-44, Administrative Overhaul - Yes I-45, Diplomatic Overtures - Yes P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 - No NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project - Yes F-48, Organizational Capacity - Yes F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency - Yes P-50, X-COM - Yes Z-51, IRPA - Yes I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development - No W-53, Lunplan Expansion - Yes W-54, Medals - Yes W-55, Rename the Comintern - Yes, but Communist Interstellaire, or COMINSTEL, sounds cooler. H-56, More Medals - YES, HAHAHA, YES
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I am hoping that once control is consolidated in North America, we can begin to deliberate on reparations for the descendants of slaves and indigenous people. Any treatment of the former American ruling class and settler majority that is not aimed at breaking their power will only see them, like the French of Saint-Domingue, attempt again and again to return to power and return the indigenous peoples of the Americas and their former slaves to a state of abject slavery.
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Nov 14, 2020 21:10
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What The gently caress
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Crazycryodude posted:His novels sound a lot better as thought experiments than actual entertaing prose. You forgot the incest.
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I think we've found our reason to colonize Mars, extensively.
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Josef bugman posted:How many years do our comrades in the technical colleges believe it will be till we can get more viable ships for reaching beyond our solar system up and running? We don't even have a proven theory of superluminal travel. Let's not put the tachanka before the horses.
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gently caress it, let's take their deal. Let's go one up on their deal, and suggest a conference with the Hawaiians, Indians, and the Japanese about joint human space defense. Share with them all of our findings about the Roswell aliens and the Cydonia outpost.
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I mean, let's not forget something important. Nuclear war or no, the Japanese Left, as of 1982 in our real life timeline, was still alive for the most part. It would only die later in that decade to the excess of the 1980's economic boom.
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We should tell the Japanese to go shove off. They chose to dictate demands to us from the mouth of a war criminal, and the Comintern wants to give them everything they want? I'm sorry, if the Comintern is seriously going to capitulate with them this way, then the Comintern is already betraying the people and the revolution.
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Asterite34 posted:Can anyone here make up their minds? I thought about it and remembered that I'm not in a place that will ban me for promoting genocide for saying that Colonialism is bad. Also gently caress the Japanese claims of being colonized. They got to undergo a massive economic and social boom under the American Nuclear Aegis. If that's what colonization is, then that's a better loving deal than any other colonized people have ever gotten.
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New Afrika will not support collaboration with the Capitalists and Imperialists of Japan. Given how we had to fight off a genocide attempt and free some of our ethnic nationals from concentration and death camps, we're firmly on the hardline side of things. No capitulation to imperialist demands. If they want to negotiate, they can negotiate, but what they've offered isn't a negotiation, its an ultimatum.
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New Afrika thinks that we're all being idiots. The Japanese have played us all like a drat fiddle.
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New Afrika calls for an immediate vote: Do we play ball with Japan, or no?
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Telsa Cola posted:Moon's haunted, comrade. By CAPITALISM!
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Based on what we know of our Martian survivors, I think that we should assign the highest priority to a complete survey of the ocean floor in and surround the Bermuda Triangle region. We should immediately retask assets to perform such a survey, and have military elements ready to secure the entire area if needs be.
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Communist Zombie posted:I know the Isreali Communist Party is non/anti zionist, but what is there stance on the Palestine issue? New Afrika has no interest in creating and propping up a settler ethnostate, in as much as it is interested in propping up a black african ethnostate in the Southeastern US. Creating any sort of "Jewish State" means that those who exist within it who are not jewish will effectively be second class citizens. If such a state is protected and supported by the Comintern, then we are no better than the old western allies, or even GLADIO. Edit: alternatively, if Haiti wants to create a Jewish Ethnostate, they could give up some of their territory for it. Perhaps Les Cayes and the area surrounding it? Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 7, 2021 |
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Asterite34 posted:Maybe we can give the Jewish people Florida? We need to kick the Joint Chiefs out of Miami anyway This isn't Cthulhutech. We don't give bad people areas inhabited by minorities (and kick out the minorities) as a consolation prize.
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Redeye Flight posted:May God help us all. Gonna give the Aliens the ol' Ermor Shuffle
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I think we should shoot for a Martian Colony by the year 1990.
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Right now we're just kinda spinning our wheels on the Moon, while doing limited exploration of the outer system. We can be doing more, much more. Like, we should be putting much, much, MUCH more effort into researching FTL travel.
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Watsonian: it is important that humanity spread out from Earth and the Solar System as a matter of ensuring humankind's survival Doylist: Its Aurora, not doing space colonization in Aurora is stupid.
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If Pushing for further space colonization, when we know that there are possibly hostile aliens with more advanced technology than us living in our corner of the galaxy, is counter revolutionary, than the entirety of MOSA and the COMINTERN's space exploration program is counter revolutionary. If such is the case, then MOSA might as well disband and allow the member nations of the COMINTERN To pursue their own, separate spaceflight programs where they don't have to worry about doctrinaire adherence to theory over practical concerns.
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I mean, if we want to cripple our access to TNEs by only doing space colonization, I'm sure that's perfectly fine too. Its not quite Al-Andalus' catastrophic gently caress up, but its still close.
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I think that these are, how do you say, pre-fab structures? Some kind of equivalent to our own Antarctic survivor habitats, in a way.
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I think that we should not operate from the assumption that any advanced alien species is going to be socialist, because that could lead to danger.
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I'm thinking more "Footfall"
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paragon1 posted:This is reactionary backsliding, comrade! Please consult your handbook. Please, we're not a pack of coffee house intellectuals. We live in the real world, and we need to care more about the facts on the ground, not theory.
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Though i loathe to be cautious for any reason, I propose that we halt exploration of the Martian Ruins until we have established more robust communication with the Minervans. This halt should not be called off until we have both established better communications with the Minervans AND that we have delivered a military expedition to Mars to secure the security of the research team there. Though the base may be abandoned, the Roswells were no strangers to war. Further, they clearly had enemies, and would have been likely to set up defenses of their facilities to keep them from being used by their enemies. In effect, Mars may have its own Robotic Gladio, of a sorts, waiting for us. I would also propose that, though we are friendly, that we should avoid being drug into any sort of interstellar conflicts that may be raging. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Well, with the success of our mission to the Asteroid Belt, we can say for certain that we now have the capabilities to exploit it for TNE resources. In such a case, New Afrika would like to propose the Main and Trojan Mining Act: -The construction of a Mass Driver complex on either Earth or the Moon, with the facilities to send and receive packets of minerals. -The construction of Automated Mines on Earth or Luna, along with Mass Drivers that can be transported by starship -The establishment of Automated Mining Complexes on TNE-rich asteroids in the Main Belt and Jovian Trojans, which will extract useful TNEs and launch them towards the Earth or the Moon, where the Mass Driver there will receive the mineral package. - At least 20 such Asteroids should be exploited in this way before the year 1990, and at least 40 more by the year 2000. Loel posted:Proposal 3: New Afrika strenuously objects to portions of this, and would propose a number of RIDERS to this Proposal: -A modification of Part 2: Nuclear Weapons Testing on Earth, or any world with an active biosphere, will remain banned. -Part 4: New Afrika calls completely and entirely for this portion to be struck, and if itcannot be removed, to have the entire proposal rejected. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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Hostergaard posted:The Utopia Collective proposes the following This is going much too far, much too fast. We need to focus our resources on our current priorities and the colonization of bodies that aren't harsh deathtraps, not trying to terraform planets over a process that can take Millennia- not when it would be much more economical to use space habitats to exploit the minerals of hostile planets such as Io. As for Project Sword and Shield, we don't need to make a repeat of the Early United States' sputtering incompetence with naval affairs- our planned Planetary Defense Centers should be suitable. New Afrika calls for every Comintern member in the African Diaspora Bloc to vote AGAINST this proposal, especially the ludicrous proposals related to Io. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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