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Senor Tron posted:I love how apart from Hall this looks like a bunch of random fans decided to cosplay and make a fan production with him. it's the one foot on the curb, he's already edging off the set
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JaddaCaddra posted:Have you seen the one done by the guy that did the original series retrospective? It's a fitting follow up to that and sums up the season and its shortcomings nicely. Yeah, it was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8rLOQQoGY I have zero reason to watch this now. But I enjoyed the quick rundown.
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That link wasn't clear if it was a bench made by the production or just a normal one, so I hit up Google Maps and definitely real:
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Jan 24, 2022 15:11
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No way. It looks like styrofoam. 
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Also christ almighty it's weird clicking through photos of areas in California like this one, feels uncannily like Australia.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Now I'm watching a rundown/review of the new season. I do this for show that I stopped watching but am still curious about. Like The Walking Dead.
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Senor Tron posted:That link wasn't clear if it was a bench made by the production or just a normal one, so I hit up Google Maps and definitely real: The one to the right is Mike Anderson, the one to the right of that is the dude Deb got killed on top of the downtown building, the one to the right of that is Lundy ...
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Astro7x posted:I do this for show that I stopped watching but am still curious about. Like The Walking Dead. Yeah, exactly. In this case, I was curious, sure, but not 10-ish hours curious.
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I actually think they could have used the original 12 episode format this year. The ending felt rushed, as many have said. Clancy Brown deserved a better backstory. The plotholes were glaringly obvious, as they were even in the best seasons of Dexter (1 and 4). I would put this as the 3rd best season, however. And getting a real ending was nice. Anything but the Lumberjack Song.
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I feel like the ending really took a poo poo on the good will built up by being relatively decent for most of the season. Like I feel completely divested of the show now, having been a big fan, as if I'd just brought it out into a storm and dumped it in the ocean
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codo27 posted:I feel like the ending really took a poo poo on the good will built up by being relatively decent for most of the season. Like I feel completely divested of the show now, having been a big fan, as if I'd just brought it out into a storm and dumped it in the ocean Which part(s)? I was disappointed by the Angel/Dexter blueballing. The handling of Logan's demise. The way Harrison was sent away when he should have stayed and been a town hero. The pacing.
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escape artist posted:I actually think they could have used the original 12 episode format this year. The ending felt rushed, as many have said. Clancy Brown deserved a better backstory. The plotholes were glaringly obvious, as they were even in the best seasons of Dexter (1 and 4). I would put this as the 3rd best season, however. And getting a real ending was nice. Anything but the Lumberjack Song. Clancy Brown seems like the biggest waste of the season, to me. When I first heard he was the villain, I thought, "Oh gently caress, he can be terrifying," and had flashes of Lithgow as Trinity. And then what we got was kind of nothing? His character is clearly obsessed with his first kill, and is recreating it over and over again. But most of what we actually saw was just a faux nice man who then shot people from far away. Like, obviously not someone I'd want to run into, but nothing close to what I was expecting out of Clancy Brown playing a serial killer. Yeah, he taxidermied his victims, but we didn't even really see that. Really we just saw kind of a lame hunter. Of course Dexter took him out easily. And I get that he wasn't really the point of the season. But then anyone could have played him. A waste of Brown.
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Yeah, yeah! That is what felt off about Clancy Brown this season. Thanks, that had actually been nagging at me for a bit after the finale went down. Like, the actual times we saw him try to kill someone were his first kill, green-haired chick, and Harrison. Green-haired chick got killed in the end, but she also completely hosed up his ritual and caused him to lose his poo poo, and he casually apologized to Harrison and then got clowned on by Dexter. The first kill was cool, but that was because it was a shot of Young Kurt freaking the gently caress out while Clancy Brown calmly narrated it with a complete lie. We never got to see him go fully mask-off or how he deals with a victim when he is actually in charge of the situation. Like why did podcast lady only exist to vaguely point Angela at the Bay Harbor Butcher case and then get fridged? That's another waste of a good actor. Just two scenes of her finding Kurt's basement lab and getting locked in there and then being taunted by him over webcam before "escaping" and getting a bullet to the back would have been a massive improvement on both characters.
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TBH the first time I saw the Clancy Brown kill and blood draining I thought they were going for a Thiel-like youthful blood infusion thing.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Yeah, yeah! That is what felt off about Clancy Brown this season. Thanks, that had actually been nagging at me for a bit after the finale went down. Yes, exactly. Another couple episodes would have done this season a lot of good, I think. What's weird is that the show was moving at a decent speed. It wasn't great, but it was alright, working towards something. And then the last couple of episodes were in, "Wrap it up!" mode. Was the episode count cut short at the last minute, or something? Like, what happened to the billionaire? I originally thought they were working towards some sort of "the rich hunt people" club plot, with Clancy Brown being who finds the prey, but nope, billionaire is gone without a word, and Brown just shoots people with a laser sight from far away, and now he's dead.
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Billionaire was a red herring, but also convenient for Angie to call on when she needs the chopper to look for Matt. He's just the local comic book villain.
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a club of rich people hunters would've been something, but that's an extension way beyond what they were doing with the season. i think there was a synopsis for the finale which said 'harrison and dexter try to have a normal life in a town that is anything but' or something like that, and with the 'blow up the internet' stuff i thought it might be some kind of crazy conspiracy reveal at the end. kurt wasn't a good villain, he just had a good actor playing him. his M.O. doesn't really connect up - he saw his dad beat up and maybe kill women as a child, so he decides to shoot one who tries to flee town, becomes obsessed with this, and then also taxidermies their bodies and it's all got something to do with saving/preserving his image of innocent young women or something. it just feels thrown together. i mean it sounds all right from a distance, but there's nothing juicy there, it's just boilerplate serial killer elements cobbled together. that's why i was expecting some higher level of villainy to be revealed, because the billionaire as his superior in some kind of killer cult would have explained why kurt's motivations seemed so slap dash and his methods so disconnected - because he wasn't doing it just for himself. would have maybe explained he and his son's apparent wealth despite the fact he basically just ran a truck stop in a small town. i wouldn't be surprised if they were actually writing towards this rich people hunter scenario and then halfway through went, ah gently caress it, kurt did it all alone and dexter dies.
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Just a little tic, but he's not taxidermying them, he's embalming them. Taxidermy usually means removal of the skin to be placed over a foam mold and removal of the organs. He left them intact and loaded them with preservatives like they're twinkies waiting for the apocalypse. E: And small town truck stops make good money, Kurt's wealth seems equivalent to a small business tyrant. CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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yeah i'm sure a guy like kurt would make good money but with his son being big time rich and kurt having a crazy underground installation like that, i just mean that it all feels like it's naturally set up to reveal he's got some other kind of backing/funding.
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I raised the cost of that container setup before, noted the fact that someone out there would have to know it's there. It's right off a paved road, someone would have seen or partaken in excavation, watched the trucks deliver the shipping containers, it's a several month job to do that safely. But it's the Dexterverse and apparently everyone just nods along. There are bigger problems with the story, it's easier to accept a million dollar murder bunker than question it.
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See thats why he drained the blood, he just dug a little hole in the ground, poured the blood into it and it grew into the murder chamber over time
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Ah, the old breakfast cereal box inflating bunker surprise.
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"Don't mind me, I'm farming shipping containers."
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They established that the bunker is "off the grid", and it may have been there for at least 30 years.
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I just don't buy it. Even Kurt's cabin was off Angie's radar. Right next to a paved road. When Dexter followed Kurt and Molly there, then told Angie about it later she was dumbfounded that it existed, in a place she supposedly knows like the back of her hand. Someone has to plow and salt that road, and would see the cabin every time they drive by. If it's the only thing out there, it would be a local landmark ("turn left a mile after the Caldwell cabin" type poo poo). But again, Dexterverse.
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Angela is not a very good cop; that she didn't know there was a cabin there does not preclude the cabin being common knowledge.
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Honestly, props to Julia Jones for playing an incompetent cop so drat well that we're still talking about Angela's incompetence like it was the main plot point. Police incompetence has always been a theme in Dexter, but it was on full display this whole series.
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"Yeah just take a left up there at Jimmy's bar and grill" "How did I not know this restaurant was here this whole time?"
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Honestly, props to Julia Jones for playing an incompetent cop so drat well that we're still talking about Angela's incompetence like it was the main plot point. Police incompetence has always been a theme in Dexter, but it was on full display this whole series. She figured out Dexter was a serial killer in one season, and didn't die. She's the most competent police officer the show has ever seen.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I just don't buy it. Even Kurt's cabin was off Angie's radar. Right next to a paved road. When Dexter followed Kurt and Molly there, then told Angie about it later she was dumbfounded that it existed, in a place she supposedly knows like the back of her hand. Should we investigate Kurt's secret property to see if there is evidence against his take that his dad actually killed iris? Nah, my boyfriend lied to me and I am allllll up in that poo poo.
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I'm not a cop but I've google mapped my small town a few times and now I know where all the secret cabins are.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I just don't buy it. Even Kurt's cabin was off Angie's radar. Right next to a paved road. When Dexter followed Kurt and Molly there, then told Angie about it later she was dumbfounded that it existed, in a place she supposedly knows like the back of her hand. Growing up in a very rural area, you'd be surprised at how this could work. A "paved road" in no way means it was paved by the city or maintained by the city. The rich folk in my hometown had their private drives paved when everything else was still dirt and no one really knew what all was on the property deep in the woods. Sheriff definitely didn't go down them without an invitation or a warrant. I do agree they couldn't have gotten the bunker built without someone knowing, but a paved road and a small cabin are very believable. Kurt owned a trucking business, so it's not like he couldn't plow his own road. It's also not like people just randomly trawl through property and permit records.
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I grew up in a rural area too. And live in a completely different rural area now. Everyone knows everyone else's poo poo, even if they don't know the specific people that well. They did a decent job portraying that when half the town shows up at Dexter's cabin to look for Matt, and again when Kurt torches the cabin. I'll grant some flexibility for it being a wooded area, the rural areas I live/lived in are flat with few trees. But paving roads is always a sign there are houses nearby to me. Roads with even minimal traffic were tarred and chipped where I grew up, they're just carved out of the sand where I am now. Paving is a big expense, no matter who is paying. And there's almost always some retiree that feels like they need to know what's going on with legalese poo poo, so they can have something to gossip about. The kind of people who go to zoning variance meetings. They don't just exist in the suburb HOAs. They're universal. They require useless information to continue to exist.
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My in laws have hunting property where you have to travel a mile down a dirt road until you reach the hunting cabin, which is completely off the grid with batteries that are charged with a generator and rain water to run the sink and toilet. Like, nobody has any reason to go down that road ever. Police are not going to just go down the road and check things out either. They would have had the road paved, but it would cost a poo poo ton of money to do it and it's not worth it. I don't think it's that far fetched that the rich dude could own several acres of property and have a paved road. It doesn't break my immersion of the show. CRUSTY MINGE posted:Someone has to plow and salt that road, and would see the cabin every time they drive by. That's not how it works when you live in the middle of nowhere. You own a truck with a plow attachment or you are screwed.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I just don't buy it. Even Kurt's cabin was off Angie's radar. Right next to a paved road. When Dexter followed Kurt and Molly there, then told Angie about it later she was dumbfounded that it existed, in a place she supposedly knows like the back of her hand. I just took it as a long paved private way. The show has him have a guy willing to kill for him. Knowing a guy who paves seems pretty basic and Kurt seems like the kind of guy who’d own a plow.
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