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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Crumbskull posted:

Personally I believe consciousness was a cosmic mistake, a wound inflicted on a universe that does not deserve it, and it will be no great loss if it is gone. I get why this is a minority opinion though lol.

Also, since adopting this attitude I have become MORE active, not less, in participating in ameliorative efforts. 'Resigning myself' to failure has made it possible for me to put more energy into the fight, paradoxically.

I think we are part of a grand experiment to see if the universe inside the machine generates intelligence advanced enough to hack its way out and say hi. It won't be us.

Aramis posted:

Biological life is shockingly effective at increasing entropy, to the point where abiogenesys can be seen as a thermodynamic evolutionary strategy. On top of that, the more complex the life, the more efficient said life is at that conversion. What I'm getting at is that there is a very real argument to be made that life, as well as consciousness, is an attempt by the universe to hasten its inevitable heat death.

It's not a mistake, it's a suicide attempt.

It got bored.

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Nov 14, 2020

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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
The suicide pact technology was Fire.

Evolution is an eternal grinding competition happening at a particular scale and the suicide pact death is being induced at a much wider scale so lifeforms who slowly but inexorably destroy their habitat burning it all in a race to outdo the others will never develop a real incentive to change these behaviors before it's too late.

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 26, 2021

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Yeah it's one thing to speculate they might be out there its a whole other to consider if they could have signalled us by now, assuming that they wanted to

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