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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
It's funny when old Who actually does stuff better than new Who, like how the early Pertwee episodes about the Silurians and the project to drill to the Earth's mantle actually have enough extras to make them feel vaguely realistic (for a TV show) whereas the revival story based on the same ideas has a guest cast of about 3.

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Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Feels Villeneuve posted:

What were they THINKING

Omegaverse? More like a mega-sized load of wolf poo poo!

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Did not expect this:

https://twitter.com/renegadecut/status/1785254968775020955

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



The new Ai gadget (that's sold out and now universally known as a cute piece of trash) received a scathing review by marques Brownlee and people are mad, again

https://twitter.com/GrahamFleming_/status/1785149653056467304?t=qvYJjAVfOIPd-sy8U6MKUg&s=19

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

The funniest excuse for why GRRM hasn't finished the books is that he was the one who was actually responsible for the final season of Game of Thrones, and completely Miscalculated how it was going to be received. so now he can't do anything about it because that was his best idea.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

all of the ideas in the final season work they were just executed by morons ... but it was cool as hell watching the train wreck happen real time

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
The execution in the show is bad but the execution in the books is nonexistent so that's kind of like saying someone won by not competing

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
It's funny because you can squint and see how conceptually a lot of the arcs were supposed to unfold and it does make sense. Like in the show Dany hearing ~the bells~ and flipping into dragon hitler the peasant genocider is extremely dumb but the thing is Dany was always a self-entitled shitter who only championed the common people insofar as it helped get her closer to putting her rear end down on the sword chair and with some better writing you could have flowed that into Dany's brain breaking because the people of Westeros treated her as a conquer not a liberator and she ultimately chooses to justify bowling over them to get her throne.

Weird Sandwich
Dec 28, 2011

FIRE FIRE FIRE hehehehe!

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

all of the ideas in the final season work they were just executed by morons ... but it was cool as hell watching the train wreck happen real time

Yeah the end points were mostly fine, they just took the quickest, dumbest route to get there. Probably needed a full season to give enough weight to finishing the white walker storyline, then one more season after that to tie up the rest

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Alaois posted:

Old Doctor Who is like, a half-step above a filmed stage production. Its great.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

It's funny when old Who actually does stuff better than new Who, like how the early Pertwee episodes about the Silurians and the project to drill to the Earth's mantle actually have enough extras to make them feel vaguely realistic (for a TV show) whereas the revival story based on the same ideas has a guest cast of about 3.

Yeah, I will endlessly defend "classic" Doctor Who because it repeatedly tried to tell stories that were absolutely beyond its ability.

A planet populated by insects? Sure, we'll put ten day players in paper mache ant costumes. What's that? An alien threat without legs? Sure, we'll build a rig around a kid's tricycle. A vision of humanity that replaced their bodies with electronics? Sure we'll put a half-dozen tall dudes in silver jumpsuits and plastic helmets. And every actor with a speaking part will treat their gibberish lines like they were on stage with the Royal Shakespeare Company.

Most of the stories are absolute madness but everyone involved is trying their damnedest to get it right and it's infectious. For example, here's the first appearance of the Cybermen, one of the series' most famous recurring enemies. There's almost nothing here that couldn't be done on a high school stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOYImonOwt0

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:45 on May 1, 2024

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Weird Sandwich posted:

Yeah the end points were mostly fine, they just took the quickest, dumbest route to get there. Probably needed a full season to give enough weight to finishing the white walker storyline, then one more season after that to tie up the rest

There was no way it would end well considering people were getting tattoos of and naming their children after Daenerys. Any ending where she doesn't end up as a girl boss bringing positive change to Westeros probably would have not gone down well with its audience.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

IShallRiseAgain posted:

There was no way it would end well considering people were getting tattoos of and naming their children after Daenerys. Any ending where she doesn't end up as a girl boss bringing positive change to Westeros probably would have not gone down well with its audience.

lol particular sympathetic shoutout to any Danny's and Kelly C's growing up right now.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

IShallRiseAgain posted:

There was no way it would end well considering people were getting tattoos of and naming their children after Daenerys. Any ending where she doesn't end up as a girl boss bringing positive change to Westeros probably would have not gone down well with its audience.

should have paid attention to the plot...

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

IShallRiseAgain posted:

There was no way it would end well considering people were getting tattoos of and naming their children after Daenerys. Any ending where she doesn't end up as a girl boss bringing positive change to Westeros probably would have not gone down well with its audience.
imo this is the good part of the ending

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

GRRM was laying it on pretty thick that Daenerys was insane. The Bran as king is the stuff that really doesn't work. You can see what he is going for, but nobody likes Bran unless he's doing Tree Magic and becoming king is pretty drat far away from that.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Aeris died yet people still named their daughters after her without issue. Clearly this is an example of East Asian supremacy over the West

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

the funniest part of the final season was jaime abandoning all his character development to go hang out and die with his evil sister

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

he needed that bad pussy

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the funniest part of the final season was jaime abandoning all his character development to go hang out and die with his evil sister

gotta tie up loose ends as finally as possible, our audience can't understand subtlety or the idea that a major character might want to just gently caress off out of the plot forever

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the funniest part of the final season was jaime abandoning all his character development to go hang out and die with his evil sister

literally rocks fall everybody dies because he pissed off the GM lmao

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
"I never really cared for the people" says the guy who's whole character from episode one revolved around the fact that he bore the burden of all of the guys he wanted to think he was cool hating his guts because he broke his oath killing the king he was sworn to protect in order to save... the people, ftw.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

everything he ever did... was so he could gently caress his sister

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

everything he ever did... was so he could gently caress his sister

mans got to have a code

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

everything he ever did... was so he could gently caress his sister

Which is why his final climactic conflict isn't any of that white walker poo poo he went up north to do, but rather an impromptu battle with the other guy who hosed his sister, so they can finally settle the score of who gets to gently caress his sister. Jamie wins and presumably would have gotten to gently caress his sister again but oops the rock slide kicked in.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

i think tyrion gets stupider every season!

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Sydin posted:

"I never really cared for the people" says the guy who's whole character from episode one revolved around the fact that he bore the burden of all of the guys he wanted to think he was cool hating his guts because he broke his oath killing the king he was sworn to protect in order to save... the people, ftw.

did they ever actually explain why he never told anyone why he killed the king?

Gaius Marius posted:

The Bran as king is the stuff that really doesn't work. You can see what he is going for, but nobody likes Bran unless he's doing Tree Magic and becoming king is pretty drat far away from that.

but who has a better story than bran the broken?

lol

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



the only way I see jamie's show ending remotely working is if everyone involved treats it like him falling off the wagon.


"he was 6 months into his sisterfucker's anonymous meetings when he relapsed and got hit by a falling building rip"

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I've never read the books but I got the impression the ideas of the final season could've worked there but the show had been on a downswing for a while and fumbled the ball on doing the basic narrative footwork to deliver them.

Ironically, playing the more obvious surface narratives straight and just delivering on that front would've had the show ending, if not memorably, then at least decently. But because the show was just so bad by that point, using what I presume to be GRRM's ideas for his original planned ending felt to most of the audience like, to put it unflatteringly, plot twists for the sake of plot twists. Rather than, what was probably intended to be a convincingly cynical ending like what I imagine it would be in any theoretical future books.

Basically, the show could've ended mid and left people wanting the "real" ending via the novels but they chose to destroy the IP instead.

Runa fucked around with this message at 08:31 on May 1, 2024

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!
How popular is the prequel show?

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Solitair posted:

How popular is the prequel show?

very! if wikipedia is to be believed:

quote:

The day after the series premiere, HBO said the episode had been viewed by an estimated 9.99 million viewers in the U.S. on its first night of availability – including linear viewers and streams on HBO Max – which it said was the largest single-day viewership for a series debut in the service's history, dethroning Euphoria.[136] After one week of availability, the viewership rose to nearly 25 million in the U.S. across all platforms.[137] Nielsen estimated that the episode was watched by 10.6 million viewers on HBO Max in the first four days, with the number increasing to 14.5 million when including the viewership on the main HBO channel.[a][138] Samba TV meanwhile stated that 4.8 million U.S. households streamed the episode in the first four days.[139] The series was also popular on social media, with the show premiere being the number one trending topic on Twitter and Google Trends.[140]

The finale of the first season was watched by 9.3 million viewers across all platforms during its premiere night according to HBO, which was the highest viewership for any finale of a HBO show since the series finale of Game of Thrones. The show averaged 9–9.5 million viewers for an episode on premiere night and 29 million total viewers after a week of release.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Its carried by good acting and actual decent writing. But there were already some dumb parts which has me constantly worried for a repeat of season 8

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

The Saddest Rhino posted:

The new Ai gadget (that's sold out and now universally known as a cute piece of trash) received a scathing review by marques Brownlee and people are mad, again

https://twitter.com/GrahamFleming_/status/1785149653056467304?t=qvYJjAVfOIPd-sy8U6MKUg&s=19

This dude was already being way too even-handed because literally the only thing he has to say is 'you already have a smartphone'

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I love the salty tears of AI bros whenever one of their useless gimmick tech googahs fails.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

i think tyrion gets stupider every season!

Tyrion was a victim of Peter Dinklage being too charming and popular but also D&D not being able to write him at really good at talking his way into or out of things (except when he's really bad at it) on their own. So he just exposits and is dumb.

See related hilariously bad choices like "Who has a better story than Bran the Broken" and "Sansa says sexual assault made her strong." Or the fact even with all of Arya's weird assassin training while she does kill the Walker King there's nothing particularly special about the method so anybody with a decent long jump could have done the same.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

The Saddest Rhino posted:

The new Ai gadget (that's sold out and now universally known as a cute piece of trash) received a scathing review by marques Brownlee and people are mad, again

https://twitter.com/GrahamFleming_/status/1785149653056467304?t=qvYJjAVfOIPd-sy8U6MKUg&s=19

Every reply is roasting Graham. What an rear end. He deserve it.

Also that thing Marques reviewed is terrible enough to gaslight you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct2zo1cuzPQ

Excuse me, if I want an AI to gaslight me, I would play this game on Steam which is cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE1QFZFLJnY&t=1801s

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The fact that they teased an army of elephants and then we didn't get any loving elephants.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Solitair posted:

How popular is the prequel show?

Very popular. It's pretty good as well, largely because they have a GRRM text to form the spine of the story. Unfortunately, they're speed running the whole thing a bit, cut some smart stuff and added some dumb stuff, and haven't changed the theme song.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

keep punching joe posted:

I love the salty tears of AI bros whenever one of their useless gimmick tech googahs fails.

They're fronting like this Marques bloke is single-handedly killing the company but I watched his review yesterday and he was talking about the AI learning to use apps, and he casually mentioned banking apps as an example and it's like loving pardon?? You don't think it's worth expanding on that? Maybe he thinks it speaks for itself

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006


I really liked his Seinfeld vid, so this seems like a fun way for him to approach lighter subject matter. My only experience with LSL was with the LSL7 demo that locked you immediately to the Dice game without the required item to pass that minigame + reading the lps from here.

Still really like the joke on the LSL7 where Larry has to go find a book and you are treated with the narrator reading, at length, the history of Fokker, the aircraft company. It's very much a "Yes, we finally got the power of multimedia and CD audio into this, and we're going to waste your time with this because you were expecting a dingy sex joke."

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

They're fronting like this Marques bloke is single-handedly killing the company but I watched his review yesterday and he was talking about the AI learning to use apps, and he casually mentioned banking apps as an example and it's like loving pardon?? You don't think it's worth expanding on that? Maybe he thinks it speaks for itself

And this is not his first rodeo handling backlash like this! A few weeks ago he was handling that weird holograph pocket handheld thingy! With the same script thrown at him when he's perhaps one of the most diplomatic people about it.

Kunster fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 1, 2024

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The Wicked ZOGA posted:

This dude was already being way too even-handed because literally the only thing he has to say is 'you already have a smartphone'

Yeah this thing and the pin are literally just smartphone but worse where their entire functionality could just be an app. With the most recent video mainly done so he could talk about how annoyed he is with tech companies treating product launches like beta tests.

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