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I feel bad for Temuera Morrison because unless he gets to play Rex at some point there's nothing stopping them from using an AI voice for clones and then pasting his likness onto a younger actor.
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Arc Hammer posted:I feel bad for Temuera Morrison because unless he gets to play Rex at some point there's nothing stopping them from using an AI voice for clones and then pasting his likness onto a younger actor. I thought they had to pay actors if they wanted to generate their voice with AI? So unless he gives his permission I don't think that's happening. If it does well hopefully he gets a boatload of money because they'll be releasing clone related stuff for absolutely ever.
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Apr 30, 2023 22:55
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Yeam, Hamilton looks Hamil ( ) enough to me!
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Just Chamber posted:I thought they had to pay actors if they wanted to generate their voice with AI? So unless he gives his permission I don't think that's happening. If it does well hopefully he gets a boatload of money because they'll be releasing clone related stuff for absolutely ever. They also have well over a decade's worth of Dee Bradley Baker audio to work with, so they just buy Temuera's likeness, buy Dee's voice, and voila, clone ghouls forevermore
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May 1, 2023 00:10
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Just Chamber posted:I thought they had to pay actors if they wanted to generate their voice with AI? So unless he gives his permission I don't think that's happening. If it does well hopefully he gets a boatload of money because they'll be releasing clone related stuff for absolutely ever. That's not in the SAG/AFTRA contract.
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May 1, 2023 00:14
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Just cast the guy and be done with it, you have a new younger Luke good to go for a few decades of prequels and interquels milking the Skywalker brand. Can he actually act or just look like him, not that there's lot of work in the required scenes. They broke the Han and Lando seal, but those guys are at least decent actors too.
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Between Andor and Obi Wan and everything else, we prob should have watched season 1 and 2 again before starting 3. Someone wanna fill me in on the context of why Amnesty person xyz99 set up the scientist? I recognized the scene in the recap, was it her partner that he tortured in that room? I thought it was the junkyard parts girl... wait. That was Andor ffs
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Timby posted:That's not in the SAG/AFTRA contract.
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codo27 posted:Between Andor and Obi Wan and everything else, we prob should have watched season 1 and 2 again before starting 3. Someone wanna fill me in on the context of why Amnesty person xyz99 set up the scientist? I recognized the scene in the recap, was it her partner that he tortured in that room? I thought it was the junkyard parts girl... wait. That was Andor ffs Are you referring to the woman that turned up the mindflayer? She was still working for Moff Gideon. She discovered that the scientist guy wanted to work with the new republic and continue his work but for good purposes this time. She killed him to stop him from revealing anything to the new republic that Gideon was still working on.
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May 1, 2023 02:25
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Jesus, the deepfaking really is dire and unnecessary when you've got a perfectly fine Younger Luke to begin with Definitely. Unless you're watching all of Star Wars in chronological order, you'd never even notice that it's a different guy without the very obvious fact that Return of the Jedi and Book of Boba Fett were filmed 50 years apart.
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codo27 posted:Between Andor and Obi Wan and everything else, we prob should have watched season 1 and 2 again before starting 3. Someone wanna fill me in on the context of why Amnesty person xyz99 set up the scientist? I recognized the scene in the recap, was it her partner that he tortured in that room? I thought it was the junkyard parts girl... wait. That was Andor ffs She's not as redeemed as first appears and he's a loose end with dangerous knowledge that needed cleaning up.
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Cojawfee posted:Are you referring to the woman that turned up the mindflayer? She was still working for Moff Gideon. She discovered that the scientist guy wanted to work with the new republic and continue his work but for good purposes this time. She killed him to stop him from revealing anything to the new republic that Gideon was still working on. Pretty sure it just wiped his mind. If he died that woulda brought up a lotta questions.
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You're right, I don't know why I said killed, lol.
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Kaedric posted:Pretty sure it just wiped his mind. If he died that woulda brought up a lotta questions. "Oh you know how Imperial technology is. Prone to kill you at the drop of a hat and [dramatic hand on forehead swoon] woe was me, there was nothing I could do because it's Imp tech and we all know it's evil..."
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I also got the sense she used him to figure out what tech to steal to continue the clone research. Maybe she got the stuff off planet, or made a grocery list.
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BRJurgis posted:I also got the sense she used him to figure out what tech to steal to continue the clone research. Maybe she got the stuff off planet, or made a grocery list. Nah, it was more likely a test of "Would he actually continue his research for the New Republic given the chance?" And, well, can't let the Republic have that knowledge so best deny the asset to the enemy.
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I feel like that story would have been a lot more interesting if the new republic had actually shown any interest at all in also pursuing cloning technology, rather than banning and trying to memory hole it entirely. If Gideon had Pershing abducted off Coruscant instead and offered him to get back to work, he'd probably have been perfectly happy to get on with it.
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Slashrat posted:I feel like that story would have been a lot more interesting if the new republic had actually shown any interest at all in also pursuing cloning technology, rather than banning and trying to memory hole it entirely. If Gideon had Pershing abducted off Coruscant instead and offered him to get back to work, he'd probably have been perfectly happy to get on with it. That leaves a trail a mile wide with open questions you don't want the New Republic asking though. Eliminating him in a tragic accident is nice and neat.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That leaves a trail a mile wide with open questions you don't want the New Republic asking though. Eliminating him in a tragic accident is nice and neat.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Nah, it was more likely a test of "Would he actually continue his research for the New Republic given the chance?" Well there was also the implication a few episodes later that the First Order faction would've benefited from his research and skills in cloning Palpatine which Gideon wasn't down for.
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Cojawfee posted:Are you referring to the woman that turned up the mindflayer? She was still working for Moff Gideon. She discovered that the scientist guy wanted to work with the new republic and continue his work but for good purposes this time. She killed him to stop him from revealing anything to the new republic that Gideon was still working on. I think she might be working for Thrawn, that she fried Pershing because Thrawn doesn't want Gideon to do his Dark Trooper project.
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Nah she's specifically working for Gideon, and killed Pershing so that Gideon could deny Hux access to the cloning research for project Necromancer, because Gideon already got what he needed for project Me Myself and I. Edit: the clones were nearly ready and gestating, by all appearances.
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moist turtleneck posted:maybe the new republic tech knew she did it but figured it would be better to blame the machinery so he couldn't get in trouble for walking away from the controls Yeah there's probably an implied scene where he confronts her and she reminds him that her left her there and is complicit.
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I thought the Pershing episode was cool at first and I always say that episodes should be evaluated as part of a season and so now at the end of the season it feels like that ep was a lot of wasted time. Was it an episode that the Mandalorian needed or an episode that Star Wars overall needed? Between this and Bad Batch it seems like they're laying on the Palpatine Needs Clones a little thick.
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How well received was "somehow, Palpatine returned" by the public (as opposed to us terminally online goons)? I feel that has a lot to do with all this clone BS
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I can't say for the non-online crowd, but I see it used as a punchline in various videos as shorthand for 'something happened and the movie doesn't want to explain it'.
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That episode basically did a lot of post-OT New Republic political situation heavy lifting and hit some plot beats for Gideon's manipulations.
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Aces High posted:How well received was "somehow, Palpatine returned" by the public (as opposed to us terminally online goons)? I feel that has a lot to do with all this clone BS its a pretty widespread meme right now, which might mean the ST is now on par with the PT and it will soon be lauded as "actually good"
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Jerkface posted:its a pretty widespread meme right now, which might mean the ST is now on par with the PT and it will soon be lauded as "actually good" It needs to hurry up imo
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I guess we are (or at least I am) not really used there being so much blending between related shows. We have had some mixing of shows with Star Trek and Stargate where one show will use the characters from another show. But that is usually still insular. Stargate Atlantis would pull in people from SG-1 but that usually didn't have an affect on SG-1 stories. Whereas in these Star Wars shows, one show will do some world building, and then that directly affects another show. Like when there was pretty important Mando stuff in the Boba show. I do think it's kind of cool that all these shows are one big story though.
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Aces High posted:How well received was "somehow, Palpatine returned" by the public (as opposed to us terminally online goons)? I feel that has a lot to do with all this clone BS
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Aces High posted:How well received was "somehow, Palpatine returned" by the public (as opposed to us terminally online goons)? I feel that has a lot to do with all this clone BS My dad and step-mom, who I saw the movie with, were both confused and then were even more confused when I told them it happened in a video game, and then confused yet further when I corrected them that it was not a star wars video game, but the one where the kids learn their dances from.
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BRJurgis posted:I also got the sense she used him to figure out what tech to steal to continue the clone research. Maybe she got the stuff off planet, or made a grocery list. It was extremely basic poo poo. It was to start up his research again.
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Aces High posted:How well received was "somehow, Palpatine returned" by the public (as opposed to us terminally online goons)? I feel that has a lot to do with all this clone BS FWIW, the general feel I've gotten of it from family, friends, and coworkers, both those who are big Star Wars fans and those who aren't was generally "  why is Palpatine back?" and a uniform dislike of TRoS. I don't think I've met a single person that knew about his return being in loving Fortnite, but I also don't know may people who played Fortnite 
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My Fortnite addicted nephews didn't even catch it
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Again, it is explained in the very first scene in the movie. Now, the fact that so many still believe that it wasn't means having Kylo walking through a room of cloning vats on his way to talk to a dead guy clearly wasn't enough, and they needed to stop everything dead in its tracks to say it out loud, but it's not like it wasn't explained.
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The other thing they could have done is not have Palpatine return, what with him dying at the end of Return of the Jedi and all  I say this fully aware that Ian McDiarmid was also the absolute best part of that dreadful loving movie. Having Palpatine return was incredibly stupid, but McDiarmid's Palpatine is also wildly, wildly entertaining.
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LividLiquid posted:Again, it is explained in the very first scene in the movie. That's not to say further exposition about how that happened would have improved the movie. It definitely would not have. I think suddenly having Palpatine back in the third movie of your trilogy without a single hint that anything was up is going to get audiences going, "wait, what? why is this happening?" regardless of how well you explain the logistics of cloning. If your point is simply that there is an explanation, you're right. But when people quote "Somehow Palpatine returned," it's not necessarily a criticism of the technical events presented so much as it's a criticism of the story. The fact that he's a clone isn't really relevant to the idea that it's an incredibly jarring direction for the story to suddenly turn in. And all this is conceding the idea that it was obvious he was a clone- this was not obvious to me on my first (and only) viewing, but I do recognize that that was the intention.
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It’s a terrible line because they’re terrible writers. Somehow, Palpatine is alive. Somehow, Palpatine survived. Somehow, Palpatine was resurrected. Somehow, Palpatine is back from the dead. Now remove the SOMEHOW and try “I know it’s hard to believe,” or “There are rumors,” etc. They’re such hacks.
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