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Pardot posted:maybe there just arent enough eyes yet, enough eyes and we could have seen heartbleed, just need more eyes "just not enough eyes!" says esr as debian ships a comically broken ssh implementation for what, like 4 years? until someone notices
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rotor posted:like regardless of rms' failings - and lets be clear, there are many - he wrote emacs and big chunks of gcc and managed to come up with the idea of open source software that everyone in this thread has at some point in their life benefited from. rms didn't really come up with the idea of open source software though. it was something that was already in the hacker/nerd zeitgeist at the time, and would have happened without him.
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Sagebrush posted:they probably didn't have a guy who knew what #include means sorry I don’t use Twitter much
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Sweevo posted:rms didn't really come up with the idea of open source software though. it was something that was already in the hacker/nerd zeitgeist at the time, and would have happened without him. the only thing RMS did was turn it into a toxic hellscape of bad software restricted by bad licenses.
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rotor posted:carpetbagger Actually I think you'll find the term "carpetbagger" is a term coined by southern whites to delegitimize efforts to reform southern so-called society after the civil war?
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fart simpson posted:its esr. close thread.
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close thread? it wasn’t close at all!
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rotor posted:still so mad they went with the lame "heartbleed" name and not "fartbeat" arsebleat
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rotor posted:like regardless of rms' failings - and lets be clear, there are many - he wrote emacs why is this poo poo a big deal dont you power-nerds write software all the god drat time
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echinopsis posted:why is this poo poo a big deal dont you power-nerds write software all the god drat time I used emacs a lot for years but it seems to get more and more irrelevant as time goes on. Like I'm sure it will mostly do what my ide does but who has the time to find all the required plugins and compile/configure that poo poo? What I'm saying is esr.
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echinopsis posted:why is this poo poo a big deal dont you power-nerds write software all the god drat time it might not seem like a big deal now but a robust, extensible and free text editor was fuckin revolutionary at the time, likewise for a compiler. My point isn't that emacs is great or whatever, it's that rms actually contributed to the community he founded. esr is a barnacle.
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at the time your choices for text editors were: vi, emacs, or a bunch of things you had to pay money for. and compilers? it was gcc or a bunch of commercial ones that cost hundreds and sometimes 1000+ dollars. [old man voice] AND THAT WAS IN NINETEEN NINETY TWO MONEY
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gently caress robust is a mighty word
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echinopsis posted:gently caress robust is a mighty word i like it because it's got the word 'bust' in it
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i think my amigos 500 had emacs on its workbench disk
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rotor posted:i like it because it's got the word 'bust' in it how had I never noticed
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if u pronounce it right it's like robot titties
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STOP STARING AT MY RO-BUST. MY OCULAR RECEPTORS ARE UP HERE.
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2020 ruled and its been my most profitable year yet
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https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses-license.html
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rotor posted:STOP STARING AT MY RO-BUST. MY OCULAR RECEPTORS ARE UP HERE.
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i think it’s somewhat funny when linux is an rear end in a top hat to people, but maybe that’s wrong esr should be fired into the sun
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my homie dhall posted:i think it’s somewhat funny when linux is an rear end in a top hat to people, but maybe that’s wrong a lot of his poo poo is really unconstructive and works out very exclusionary, but otoh a lot of open source projects really struggle with any kind of management and overarching vision, and there it is pretty clear that torvalds has helped a lot even when scaling the project up. i am in present day more impressed with blender, since it seems to be going places with a reasonably cohesive vision without modelling itself clearly on any competitor in particular. no idea who the people are and how they are making decisions though.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:a lot of his poo poo is really unconstructive and works out very exclusionary, but otoh a lot of open source projects really struggle with any kind of management and overarching vision, and there it is pretty clear that torvalds has helped a lot even when scaling the project up. i think this is the difference between starting a project because you want to make a useful piece of software, and starting a project because you want to make a copy of a thing that is controlled by an Evil Corporation things that are stuck in the FSF style 'free as in freedom' ideological ghetto are usually crap. like krita vs GIMP
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pram posted:i think this is the difference between starting a project because you want to make a useful piece of software, and starting a project because you want to make a copy of a thing that is controlled by an Evil Corporation are you saying that krita is good and gimp is bad or the other way around? asking bc i've never heard of krita and while gimp has improved a ton over the last couple of years, it's still kinda ehhhhhh imo
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Achmed Jones posted:are you saying that krita is good and gimp is bad or the other way around? asking bc i've never heard of krita and while gimp has improved a ton over the last couple of years, it's still kinda ehhhhhh imo krita is like one billion times better than gimp
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krita is a program which set out to fill a niche which at the time wasn't covered particularly well by anything, and after succeeding at that expanded in scope to cover a lot of image manipulation tasks gimp set out to be a free clone of photoshop and didn't even aspire to be something you'd choose to use if you had no ideological or financial objections to using photoshop instead the end result is unsurprisingly that krita is a much better program
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i miss photoshop 5.5. that was the peak version of photoshop and it's been downhill ever since
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Plorkyeran posted:krita is a program which set out to fill a niche which at the time wasn't covered particularly well by anything, and after succeeding at that expanded in scope to cover a lot of image manipulation tasks i already said that but yes
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Cat Face Joe posted:why is this thread rated crap
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Sagebrush posted:i miss photoshop 5.5. that was the peak version of photoshop and it's been downhill ever since the worst thing was making lightroom a cloud program and then introducing lightroom classic if you take real photos your photo library will be hundreds and hundreds of gigabytes. cloud photo editing should be a gimmick not the main attraction just wish i had the newest one coz it has colour grading rather than duotone also just wish I had a program I could use 3D LUTs with to grade photos
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Sagebrush posted:i miss photoshop 5.5. that was the peak version of photoshop and it's been downhill ever since yep.
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mods please remove all posts except the op, close thread and sticky it tia
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i pay $19.99 a month for a CC subscription and its the best sub i have. lots of cool toys
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