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human garbage bag posted:Jumping in here, but I think Socialism is supposed to solve the problem of gross inequality, like there shouldn't be a janitor who works 80 hours a week in horrible conditions only to go back and watch TV in their hovel while their boss answers emails for 3 hours a week and spends the rest of their time on vacation. I'm not sure why the doctor can't enjoy their life during medical school that they need extra compensation later. The logic is not immediately obvious here. The doctors will surely reward themselves with smuggery anyway, and they deserve a lot of it. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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human garbage bag posted:I think we can both agree that it takes more training to be a doctor than to be a janitor. So the doctor needs to be compensated for the extra time they spend training compared to the janitor. Or the doctor could be paid for training as if they were actually working. And if the doctor has to work more hours than the janitor because there is a shortage of doctors then they should be compensated for the time they are working. I think the bolded is more logical, and is less prone to breaking down completely when we switch from talking about petit boug administrators or professionals and start talking about the CEOs and shareholders.
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Purple Prince posted:Where is the space for individual agency in socialist ideas? I consider myself a socialist but I’ve also been going through therapy. Volunteerism is praxis. Go hand out sandwiches and try to radicalize some church folk. Go hang out with old people at a nursing home It feels good to help others! Wear a mask! Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:The regression of China, Russia and Vietnam to capitalism are all examples of why I don’t think we should all go out and join a vanguard party with a view to overthrowing the decadent bourgeois state. I have questions about how standard of living is measured and concerns about the sustainability not underlying related practices. Given the dominance of Capitalism and the general abuse by it of those that reject it, I question whether this is a meaningful measure at all. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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You need to read actual anarchist literature because you keep randomly falling back to your incorrect understanding, demonstrated by repeatedly forgetting that anarchism != disorganization. If all the anarchists voted to do something that looks like modern liberalism then ideally yes, the results would look like modern liberalism. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Acerbatus posted:So what exactly is the difference between communism and anarchism if both seek to eliminate the idea of a ruling class and create a horizontal power structure with everyone being equal? Am I misunderstanding something? Yet somehow the zapatistas and cuba are both fine aside from the constant fuckery from Capital
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It seems likely that they are more energy intensive than just regular milling but maybe for all our dumb little plastic bullshit it's betterer than shipping from china.
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Aruan posted:Now, lets see if you can answer my question: do you know what historiography is? Do you see why it might be problematic to utilize a single historiographical approach - Marxism - to the exclusion of all others? I don't. Please make your point. Why do you keep insisting on 'modern economic classes,' if not to thrust wrongness onto your interlocutors? They seem to understand perfectly well that old timey peasants weren't operating in exactly the same systems that we have today. But everyone, even the lowliest serf had to eat, and the king had a nice big forest full of deer or whatever. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Defenestrategy posted:Why did Marx think that there needed to be an intermediary step of Cash->Coupons->People are provided for? I think the idea is to move away from a system where some jerks could come by and lower taxes again and we're back to square 1.
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The Wealthy are fighting about who gets to exploit particular persons and materials.
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Small time capitalists underpaying their car salesmen are still capitalists. But yes I was generally referring to broader global capitalists vs Russian capitalists and who gets to profit from the extraction of minerals. Either way it's not gonna be the Ukrainians who do the extracting that profit
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