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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
He’s wasted as lt. governor

I wanna fetterman v don jr for senate so he can give him a swirlie during the debate

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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

i feel like him just existing has kept wolf from being the full succ elemental you would expect from the former mayor of york. gave him some spine so we got redistricting and septa projects

i wonder if fetterman has gotten shapiro really high. he looks like a huge nerd so i imagine he just would have gotten completely wasted from it

Wolf was never mayor of York, he's from York but this is his first elected office. He owned (still owns?) a kitchen cabinet company. And don't forget Fetterman is new, for his first term we had lt. governor mike stack who i dont actually know much about other then him and his wife are assholes.


Ramrod Hotshot posted:

John is cool

but the Dems are going to eaten alive everywhere in 22

Yes probably, BUT

Shapiro, who is very popular and very succ, is almost surely going to make run at governor and Fetterman for senate means that there will be something on the ballot for everyone and that combination is probably the best chance PA has to not get crushed in 2022: Revenge of the Chuds

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

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lol that the pa dems were so devastated during the corbett years that we had to run some rando against the least liked man in the state

There were actually several nonrando candidates but Wolf dropped millions of his own money to buy the primary.

Although it certainly helped that the most serious challenger was my former congresswoman Allyson Schwartz who had already lost a statewide primary, and she was so blah she couldn’t win either of the 2 counties she represented.

It’s for the best too cause I don’t think she would have won the general.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

lol that joe drve out all the “well i hate trepm but im tired of the dems spending all our money” and electing in gops to treasurer and auditor

i have no idea if those positions actually do anything other than get inevitably arrested for corruption though

the democratic candidate for treasurer had a middle-eastern sounding name so and also coincidentally got the lowest amount of votes of all the statewide races

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

who the gently caress else they gonna run? tom kenney? fettermans probably the most powerful dem in pa because he doesnt have any real responsibilities rn

im sure they have some empty suit lined up to get curbstomped by Brian Fitzpatrick or (comedy option) don jr.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Plinkey posted:

i have learned today that fetterman's dog also has a twitter

https://twitter.com/LeviFetterman/status/1331051987073445894

making a twitter for your dog is some dumbass succ lib poo poo. just let our absolute lt governor keep yelling about legal weed

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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triple sulk posted:

wawa is trash now and hasn't been any good for years

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Clears throat

Drinks water

Offffffff

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

just send me my ballot today

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

This seems like pretty standard dem stuff. Is this guy a democratic socialist or just like a left of center dem?

Pennsylvania is a state full of mediocre and uninspiring democrats. Our house delegation is made up of like 5 interchangeable old, rich white ladies. Fetterman may not be perfect but he’s the best this state is gonna see for a while

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
The question isn’t is he better then pat toomey, it’s is he gonna be better then the other dems tripping over themselves for the nomination for that seat. That’s yet tbd

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

looking at the layout of the pa dem party

probably

i imagine his competitors will be ghouls like nutter or maybe even kenny. i imagine shapiro and wolf have already let him know they ain’t running and shapiro will go for gov

who knows tho. maybe well get some good smaller local pols

Shapiro for governor is a lock, dudes been eyeing the governors mansion since he was my state rep, but i think some of centrist house members might make a go at the senate. I think Nutter looked into it in 2016 and passed, i dont imagine he would try now.

Brendan Boyle? Madeline Dean? Connor Lamb?

Brian Fitzpatrick on the GOP side.

Comedy Option: Joe Sestak

I think the best chance dems have to not get blown out is Shapiro for gov, fetterman for senate ticket as it's something for everyone and will bump up turnout

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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the yeti posted:

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism

It’s disappointing for me too but despite all that I can’t think of a single democrat in Pennsylvania who would be more left then him and have any name recognition statewide unless like Larry krasner wanted to run

You don’t have to Stan fetterman but It’s not like holding your nose and voting for Clinton or Biden.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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achillesforever6 posted:

Peduto ain't much better; guy decided after his appearence on Undercover Boss to actually grow a giant beard and from a friend of my he bumped into Bill at Cappy's (this bar in Oakland by Pitt) where he was drunk and turns out he has two phones with one dedicated to scrolling twitter.

He got in arguments with the local Anarchist collective that was shitposting demanding that he show his feet which culiminated in a 1 AM tweet from him that if they showed 10 pics proving they voted he would show his 10 toes. (he didn't because he is a coward!)

He also really really loving sucks pretending to be this progressive mayor of the "most livable city in America" where he does nothing about UPMC, tried selling out the city to get that Amazon HQ, and oh this just happened https://twitter.com/RyanDeto/status/1347695835514077184 (granted this maybe more the DA ratfucking him, but gently caress Peduto since he treated the BLM protestors like garbage regardless)

Local municipal elections seem way more meaningful in getting results and also way easier to hold people accountable when they gently caress up; the worst part of electoralism is just how much of a burnout viscous cycle it can feel like.

wtf....is that bill peduto looks like?

can one of the pittsburgh goons call up the mayors office and tell him you cant have jet black hair with a santa claus beard

and you people voted for him?

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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I don’t live in Philly anymore so I haven’t been following krasners career closely but I gauge my opinion of him on how much suburban chuds hate him. And let me tell you, suburban chuds absolutely hate Larry krasner far
More then your average democrat

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
have any other PA democrats announced (or hinted) at running for the senate seat? even with all his flaws I cant think of one other dem with the name recognition that Fetterman has, or isnt worse then him on almost every issue

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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vyelkin posted:

why does john fetterman, as the largest senate candidate, not simply eat the others?

gotta save something for the debate

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

him, the governor, and the ag pretty much are running the show and the ag is likely going for gov

the only thing who can stop him is a good gop challenger and they all have massive brainworm problems after last year

Shapiro has been preparing to run for governor since he became a state rep in 2004.

He's good at bringing out votes but no doubt that 2020 spooked him when his re-election was closer then he would have liked and 2 republican nobodies won statewide.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
We have our first Republican contender in the race.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/politics/election/joe-gale-2022-pennsylvania-governor-race-20210216.html%3foutputType=amp


30 year old chud Sean Gale fresh off his brothers nonexistent coat tails (who is running for governor)

For those of you not from MontCo, Joe gale is the minority county commissioner who won his seat by being extra chuddy and gaming the dumbass way we elect county commissioners. Sean Gale is his younger brother whose never held elective office and failed miserably in his run for county commissioner. Both the gale brothers live with their parents.

If there’s anyone that deserves a swirlie from John Fetterman it’s these assholes but i can’t imagine Sean Gale getting anywhere close to the nomination.

Joe Gale has a little chud cred in SEPA so he might put up respectable numbers in his bid for the nomination but I wouldn’t bet on it

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

💯 this dude locks his doors the entire time hes in norristown going to the county building

He probably doesn’t even have to anymore he can do his 2 board meetings a month by zoom.

For which he gets paid $80,000...and still lives with his parents (or at least is still registered to vote there)

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
a lot of people are making GBS threads on Fetterman in here, and rightfully so

but I'm still pretty confident theres not a less bad alternative to represent me in the US Senate

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

i mean the pa gop is essentially "who is the most garbage small business owner we can scrounge up" right now.

Brian Fitzpatrick seems like the best republican candidate to win a statewide race next year. He’s got a track of record of over performing in The suburbs. Can’t think of anyone else they would field and right now the only declared candidates are the Uber chud Gale brothers.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:




true. i dont think he could survive a gop primary though



he would have a harder time winning the primary then the general. especially cause trump will never endorse him

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Young people are leaving those counties like crazy and any population increases they've seen in the past twenty years are people deliberately self-segregating from Allegheny County, same stuff is happening with Butler County.

the trade off is that cities are becoming even more blue and the philly suburbs are competitive for democrats after being pretty much a lock for republicans for decades.

dems won the MontCo commissioners majority for the first time ever in 2011 and DelCo in 2017.

Bucks county status = still enough chuds to keep it red but its not like a blowout

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
Democrats to manufacturing unions: what are you gonna do? vote republican? lol

manufacturing unions: trup!

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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A new challenger has entered the ring!

Democrat Dr. Val Arkoosh, chair of the Montgomery County Commissioners has jumped into the senate race.

She is....meh, a very run of the mill suburban democrat. She's got the 2nd most name recognition behind Fetterman.

Also a couple new losers on the gop side. Jeff Bartos, failed lt governor candidate and Kathy Barnette, failed congressional candidate.

I have a special dislike for Kathy Barnette because I live in the 4th district that she ran for (and lost by like 30 points) and her campaign was basically the Covid spreading tour at the height of the pandemic going to peoples backyards and houses and cramming as many people into a small space that would come listen to her ramble on about "I'm a black woman AND a republican! I shouldn't exist but i do!"

Still, I think this is a winnable race for the GOP but not by any of the losers who've currently declared

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

lmao that the 2/3s of the montco commission is running. Norristown's not that bad. You got Franzones, you can get a giant bowl of bimbibap and a massive amount of booze at august moon, already you're way ahead of the food wasteland they will encounter in DC!

Anyone involved in politics at any level in MontCo automatically assumes that the rest of the state does not exist

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
I had no idea what the 4 ballot questions were about on next weeks primary but I saw a bunch of chuds on Facebook screaming about how we should vote yes on all of them and that was enough for me to know what to do

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Two of them give the power to declare emergencies solely to the legislature. One of them allows private for-profit ambulance services to get cheap loans from the state. Those are all hard 'no' votes.

The other one codifies equal rights under the state constitution and should be a yes.
Thanks.

Wasn’t there also one something about grants for paid or volunteer fire departments?

Edit: I guess that’s the cheap loans, vote no,
Got it

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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I don’t know if the next governor is going to be a Republican or democrat but I do know that The chuds will control the state legislature probably for the rest of my life and certainly for at least the next 30 years.

It’s a 100% gently caress you to democrats and the fact that it passed should be a canary in the coal mine for the state dem party

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

Thank you for your service.

My wife and i have a joke about Josh Shapiro, we think he has never owned a pair of sweat pants, we assume he just lives in a suit all day and sometimes pressed khakis and an expensive polo shirt if he has to do like a charity golf event

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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that's my congresswoman and i assume she harbors dreams of being in house leadership someday, aka queen of the succ

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Conor Lamb is gonna give the senate run the old college try

who is that for?

I guess he's the western PA candidate who maybe doesn't love legalized weed as much as Fetterman.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Line Feed posted:

When can we have legal weed in this dumbshit moron state

not anytime soon....we JUST got medical weed, we're like 10 years off from recreational at least

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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thekeeshman posted:

It's legal in NY and NJ, when the state gov sees all that sweet tax revenue flowing out of the state I'm hoping greed will do what common loving sense can't. The state's largest city is literally just a bridge away from a legal state, I wonder who in NJ will open a dispensary there first.

Have you considered our state legislature is filled with chuds who prioritize owning the libs over doing what’s fiscally practical?

Let’s face it, you can’t put a price on owning libs

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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thinking about how if a republican wins governor next year, the GOP is gonna go full ham

i'm talking voter suppression, no-mask mandates, gerrymandered judge districts, hugs for frackers.
If you want to get an abortion you'll have to write a hand-written apology letter to your future aborted child

I'm not a fan of Josh Shapiro by anymeans, but he better not gently caress this up

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
Shapiro has officially declared for governor

I won’t vote for him in the primary but I just hope he doesn’t gently caress up the general

He has a pretty good track record of winning elections so I’d put $1,000 on him right now bring our next governor

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

Billy penn had an article about how he cleared the way to running after getting in spats with fetterman as if it wasn't them just drawing out of a hat which one of them would go for the senate and which for the governor

its not a secret.

Josh Shapiro could have run (and won) for senate in 2016. He chose to run for Attorney General because he had a massive war chest of succ bucks that he couldnt transfer to a federal race but he could to a state race. Dem senate leadership pratically begged him to run for senate and he passed. Plus anyone whose known Shapiro for any amount of time (he was my rep back when he was a state representative so I'm as aware of him as I can be of any elected official) knew he wanted to be governor some day.

Fetterman otoh ran for senate in 16, then lost to what was basically a younger Hillary Clinton, who then went on to lose the general to Toomey.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

in pa at least they all showed up and just didnt vote for hillary or mcginty but the other statewide offices went to the dems

Yea and then the dems lost them in 2020 lol
Shapiro must have been pissed cause his margin of victory was way lower then he would have liked and he only won by a few points to a complete nobody

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan

i am skeptical about John Fetterman based on what other people in this thread have said, and because i assume his image is a very finely crafted facade

that being said he is far and away the best choice on the above list and if the bar for being a democratic senator is not being an obstinate shitbag like Manchin or Sinema then get me a loving fetterman lawn sign stat

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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

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Yams Fan
Connor Lamb would just be a younger Joe Manchin
i dont actually know much about Kenyatta im sure he's terrible
Sharif Street is John Street's son lol
Val Arkoosh is the perfect democrat in the sense that she's an empty vessel for democratic platitudes that's never taken a non DNC approved stance on anything
Someone else? who? one of the other empty suit democrats that roam the Philly or Pittsburgh suburbs?

luckily though this is a very winnable race for the dems cause the declared republican candidates so far are perennial losers and/or nobodys

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