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On the ol' 1 to 10 scale, with 1 being "How soon is the next election so we can find another candidate?" and 10 being "I'm pulsating with excitement and I can smell Joe's hair from here." I'm at a 5. Biden is light years better than Trump but I would have been much more enthusiastic if we had President Elizabeth Warren or even President Pete Buttigieg.
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10. I'm loving relieved. Biden isn't even close to my ideal candidate but I'll happily accept him as a breathing space. He's basically like learning that your stage three or four cancer has suddenly gone into complete remission.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:10. Yeah I love when my breathing space is more crushing austerity that I can't survive. It rules. Really breathing easily as my material conditions don't change at all.
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Dumper Humper posted:Yeah I love when my breathing space is more crushing austerity that I can't survive. It rules. Really breathing easily as my material conditions don't change at all. Would you rather have four more years of Donald Trump? Because that was the choice. I'll take a slowly tightening noose around my neck over a bullet to the brain. You might be able to wriggle out of one of them.
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im hard as a fuckin rock for joe!!Vincent Van Goatse posted:Would you rather have four more years of Donald Trump? Because that was the choice. oh wait, he's just asphyxiating me slowly with a necktie Fuligin fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Nov 8, 2020 03:50
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Would you rather have four more years of Donald Trump? Because that was the choice. The noose has been tightening for years, and Joe helped tie the knot.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'll take a slowly tightening noose around my neck And rate it a 10/10 experience, apparently. Congrats on having low standards?
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6. Seeing how long it takes folks to realize that he does nothing to them will be vaguely entertaining, in an extremely dark 'watch people eat slugs', 'feeling total self-disgust' sort of way. 2022 and 2024 stand to be fascinating trainwrecks, as well. StratGoatCom fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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WampaLord posted:And rate it a 10/10 experience, apparently. Congrats on having low standards? High fiving the guy who helped tie the knot as the trap door opens.
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6.5 Maaaybe 7. I'll see how this shakes out in the first few weeks of February
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3 He is better than Trump on issues like corruption and nepotism but I have zero faith in him or Harris actually implementing any Leftist policies that he talked about without or without a Senate/House majority. Policy-wise, both domestic and foreign, I'm expecting more Obama-ish style neoliberal bullshit status quo. Which is a real step up from Trump but not the reform we actually need to make things better for everyone here. I'm somewhat pessimistic for the 2022 mid terms and much more so for the 2024 elections because of this. Even with the demographics shift favoring D's a fair amount by then they can still lose big time if they don't demonstrate they can actually improve people's lives. More on this here: https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/the-future-shape-of-the-senate/
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7.0 I think he's not gonna be able to get a lot done, and he's basically a republican. But it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
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6. I don’t think I ever understood how impactful the entire executive branch was until Trump hosed it all up. Not being afraid of unmarked federal troops in the streets of our biggest cities, not wondering if the President and AG are actively stymieing investigations into white nationalist terror groups, and not seeing millions of tax payer dollars being steered towards businesses owned by the president, his family and the cabinet... it all means a lot. However, I know Mitch will stop any positive change from happening legislatively, and I think he’s going to block all judges again, including if Breyer retires. Also, I know someone who works in financial regulation, and I guess Biden’s appointing some guy to oversee Wall St regulation that has Wall St making GBS threads their pants. No one I’ve heard of, and I can’t remember the guy’s name, but apparently Biden’s signaling that he’s not going to be as go-along-to-get-along as Wall St was hoping he’d be. We’ll see.
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Eh, 5. I 100% appreciate Trump being out, but I'm bit wary of the Democrats settling back into complacence again. I'll give Biden one chance to propose a decent first 100 days, even without the Senate. If he legitimately does that $50k student debt forgiveness from that rumor going around, I'd be more positive about him.
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7.5, I guess. More relieved than excited.
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WampaLord posted:And rate it a 10/10 experience, apparently. Congrats on having low standards? Dumper Humper posted:The noose has been tightening for years, and Joe helped tie the knot. Fuligin posted:im hard as a fuckin rock for joe!! None of you have any loving idea.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:None of you have any loving idea. I'm disabled, trans, and poor, I'm pretty sure none of that started in the last four years. I'm incredibly aware of how precarious my life has been since the first Obama term. Joe Biden was an architect of the Iraq war, Joe Biden is the reason you can't discharge student loans in bankruptcy, Joe Biden was the vice president of the united states and negotiating with Republicans above and beyond the conessions Dems had already made, Joe Biden thinks we should just tell cops to shoot for the leg. The problems existed before 2020, and Joe Biden either helped create them or has no plan for fixing any of them. Dumper Humper fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Roluth posted:Eh, 5. I 100% appreciate Trump being out, but I'm bit wary of the Democrats settling back into complacence again. I'll give Biden one chance to propose a decent first 100 days, even without the Senate. If he legitimately does that $50k student debt forgiveness from that rumor going around, I'd be more positive about him. The bloodbath that took place down ballot will prevent any complacency. If the polls held up and the Democrats were looking at 52 seats in the Senate, Schumer probably doesn’t have the sudden desire to cancel student debt through Executive Order. The Democrats know they need to get results, whether it’s Executive Orders, or bills passed in the House that they can blame McConnell for 24/7. Have a whole bunch of carrots dangling in front of the electorate in 2022 that are awaiting a Democratic senate, and then hopefully win the Senate, and then use that to set up for 2024.
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I would be 'ho-hum' but Donald loving Trump was the president and that makes me excited and somewhat relieved that we have someone else in charge soon. Maybe some honest to God progressive reforms will go through. Much better chance now than a week ago. So 6/10
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Considering how many Central and South Americans are gonna be facing coups, not much. 1-2.
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Rated purely on his own merits rather than "in comparison to Donald Trump", 1. There's going to be a lot of complacent smugness about "things going back to normal" without addressing any of the underlying socioeconomic causes for part of the electorate turning to such a miserable human as Trump. Probably a lot of holding Biden to a comically low standard as well: at least he's respecting our precious norms. Meanwhile his foreign policy will be garbage American imperialism and the rich will keep getting richer and the poor will keep being shat on.
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Dumper Humper posted:Joe Biden was an architect of the Iraq war While his vote and initial support for the Iraq War has been (and should be) roundly criticized, I object to the term "architect" as A) that implies the motherfuckers who were making decisions about the war had any actual plans for the invasion and occupation beyond "topple saddam, prove we can knock over whatever dictator we want, get fat oil contracts, GTFO," and B) it lets the people like Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld who were the driving forces towards getting us into Iraq off easy, when instead their names should be in every American textbook and also headlining war crimes tribunals, treason trials, and burning effigies in the town square of every american city. Anyway I'd say I'm at a 5 or 6, cautiously optimistic, ready to be disappointed, but also deeply relieved the current administration is at an end.
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Call it maybe a 6. I feel like America just took a huge, painful, exhausting poo poo and it's still going to take three months to get the toilet unclogged.
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I look forward to my friends potentially being shot in the leg, likely rupturing vital arteries, by police. Instead of somewhere dangerous, like their chest.
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10, it's Joe time
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I'm a 7 now, would have been a 9 if Dems had gained control of the Senate. Will re-evaluate after his first 100 days in office.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:None of you have any loving idea. 
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I'm not even American and I'm relieved as hell. As hell I say!!!!
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I voted for this thread the same amount I am excited for joe "just slightly more cognizant than my making GBS threads-himself-with-alzheimers grandpa was" biden not only did he outright say he's going to be useless even before the fact but you've got so many stupid assholes going "ah I can breathe a sigh of relief that I don't have to think about politics anymore" as if this does a single thing to fix anything rather than kick the can down the road not even half a decade. 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious assuming we just don't outright have a rebellion before that
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7-8, I'm hedging that the federal agencies that Trump was demolishing will have a couple years at least of pent-up staff excitement/gusto and not take things for granted.
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5/10 It depends on a lot on healthcare for me. I'll be watching the cabinet appointments myself. I'm only at 5/10 because healthcare took a big back seat it felt to me this election.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Would you rather have four more years of Donald Trump? Because that was the choice. Bernie would have won though, if Obungler hadn’t made those calls
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Also if you don’t think the Dem leadership and the entirety of the mainstream liberal press will immediately pivot to Make America 1996 Again Eisenhower Republicanism, LOL. Warren and Warrenism is going to be the loser of this election by far
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2. I first became politically awakened during the Iraq War years and will never forget that Biden is a war criminal. I feel relieved that Trump is out but feel absolutely nothing but dread at Biden coming into the presidency. I'm worried about more coups, sanctions and other foreign interventions that are going to be very harmful that he will likely carry out.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:10. complete remission you say?
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I'll call it a tentative 7. He was never my first choice, but at least he's acquainted with reality, and will probably fully staff the government. I'll see how I feel on the 100th day.
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honestly if you're life doesn't become beautifully uplifting the day Biden sits in the Oval Office you really need to stop thinking about your own privilege and focus on all the less fortunate that Joe and our First Black Woman President are going to better.
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Call Your Grandma posted:honestly if you're life doesn't become beautifully uplifting the day Biden sits in the Oval Office you really need to stop thinking about your own privilege and focus on all the less fortunate that Joe and our First Black Woman President are going to better. The massive privilege of being poor in America in 2020.
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