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1 +1 for being more stable and likely not doing something completely insane +1 for showcasing the failures of liberal democracy -1 for being more stable and likely doing some regular American foreign policy -1 for showcasing the failures of liberal democracy in a way that'll just embolden the right further
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9-Volt Assault posted:He gets 1 points for maybe normalising international relationships again.
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punk rebel ecks posted:To add to this and paste a previous post of mine: Reagan came to power during a recession where the eventual (including post-election) number of jobs lost was less than a tenth of what they've been so far under Trump, and Reagan won against the incumbent Carter with nearly a 10% lead in the popular vote compared to Biden's 3%. If that's the amount of excitement Biden could generate when he wasn't in charge, imagine how little he'll be able to generate when things continue getting worse while he is. This is completely ignoring the fact that Biden is gonna oversee far more COVID deaths than Trump, which seems like it'll eventually matter. I just don't see how you can expect him to do anything good when he's in a weaker position politically than Obama in 2008, and is faced with a bigger crisis. Where is the room to maneuver, to do anything that'll allow him to build momentum and do actual good things? Even assuming he actually wants to, which the Obama example doesn't really support. Incidentally, the Obama example also points to him being a single term president, if he bleeds off as much support as Obama did between 2008 and 2012: Obama lost 3.1% of his 7% during that period, and Biden starts off at 3%. He needs like a 9/11 to bolster his numbers.
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