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nah
Mar 16, 2009

The Oldest Man posted:

So I think that "progressives" who don't want socialism, that is, the expropriation of capital from the owning class and its transfer to everyone either directly or by common trust, need to answer the question of what exactly are they for in an ideologically coherent way such that any rear end in a top hat can't cloak any form of liberal charlatanism in progressive language.

To me it’s pretty simple. The expropriation of capital from the owning class isn’t going to happen. Running on that as a platform is foolish because it will be laughed off and brushed away. It’s equivalent to running on a platform of “world peace,” which may be the ultimate goal but what is even the point of talking about something that will just get you dismissed as an unserious political actor

And yes we have seen some charlatans run with progressive labels but that has only spread the labels further and all of the keystone progressive tenets are monumentally more mainstream and acceptable now.

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