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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/07/us/politics/aoc-biden-progressives.htmlquote:Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years? This broke my heart but it speaks of the problem. What can the Progressive Movement do to advance when there is a 2 party system and the party it belongs to fears it more and works harder to shut it down because it prefers to walk to the right in order to preserve the system and protect it’s wealthy donors? I do not think Progressives splitting into a third party is a viable solution, it would split the vote, ensure conservative victories, and I believe it has already been stated this was considered and determined the only way forward was to work within the 2 party system. One thought I have is for Progressive Movement to make inroads in the middle swath of America at the local and state level. Challenging Dems in Primaries on one flank, challenging the conservatives in North and Middle States in the other. The bible belt and Kentucky type states may be too much an investment at this point. The messaging is a pro labor and working class agenda but there has to be a sharp forced split to the population to let go of the racism to succeed. While I am pessimist in general as this election has shown people were driven out to support fascism and racism and do think there is risk the people would chose that over helping themselves, I think the shot has to be taken. Victories there may help build influence in the Dem party until it can be reformed and as a Progressive Agenda is shut down at the state level by the likes of California and NY. But the Dem party leadership and consultancy group has to go. I think ultimately the Dem party as it is would rather become a Republican Party than lean left versus the thought “Where is the left going to go? They have no choice but to be part of us or they get the GOP” Can Progressives and the Left build any sort of proper coalition within the Dem Party to gain more influence? Can they bend and sacrifice some principles or develop a plan that allows some of the centrists to “eat” and stay safe while pushing their agenda? How is it possible to break the Dems consultancy group that may be ineffective leading to losses in 2010 and in 2020 and reform the DNC? What can be done to reach out and build with communities of color as Jim Clyburn has shown in SC during the primaries of how critical it is to having a power base? What of the Native American communities, etc? The other item is the word “Socialism.” It doesn’t matter in the sense the Right will always smear anyone with that word. American propaganda against such policies has been in effect for over 100 years. But I think the branding and messaging needs to be adjusted. I am not confident that unless you have a very brave and secure and trusted Public Official that you can easily reform America’s mindset. M4A and Progressive policies always poll well, even Fox News polling. But there are enough Americans who have a fear of the implication of the word and it has baggage. Perhaps not as much in the youth but enough older generation voters. What can be done on the media front? AOC points out the DNC is weak on their online presence. This may also be in part why the youth is more open to leftist policies as they see what harm conservatives are doing because the Progressives have a better presence online. Longer term this can be used to a good advantage to build a generational message and base. But how to tackle news agencies like CNN or NBC which clearly tried to shut down Sanders in the Primaries and continue to bash the Progressive movement? CNN as example has analysts and people clearly from the Obama-Clinton administrations and outside the primaries doesn’t always lean on the Progressive contacts and POVs as much. Can there be enough leverage to get Progressives in? The campaigns for Progressive movements took small dollar donations and built some good capital. But who can they work with on a bigger front? Especially since there is a rejection of billionaires and large corporate donations. So what does that leave for support? Does there need to be give there? Finally one thing I feel about the left is that they feel constantly beaten on, and they are used as a scapegoat but that has also resulted in a harsher return by way of my way or highway and rejection of people who may have once been supported. The right has no scruples, they care about winning, and in the last 20 years they have won a whole bunch. This needs to be met. How do you stop that without bending yourself and stop the purity tests where there are people who are ready to abandon people like AOC on a whim as if they are just waiting for the opportunity to declare her not good enough? This is very real. And I don’t see how a candidate would feel secure if this is how fickle their base is. Joe Biden is President, and I expect a bone or two to be thrown to Progressives but business as usual. What can be done in the next 4 years or more to advance the Progressive movement?
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How are u posted:What you're describing is the period of time in which the Boomers have had full and complete control of the levers of power in this country. That isn't going to last forever, and our generation and the one that follows see the world very differently. While there is generational impact I think that is entirely too optimistic. I hope for better things though.
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