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Jul 26, 2007

57001 posted:

We're not going to win unless we can start speaking in material terms, instead of victimhood.

I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but what do you mean by material terms? Do you mean like setting up support and resources to somehow make coming forward easier, or do you mean changing the culture at large? I assume not the second one because that seems way too easily coopted by people who have vested interests in not actually changing things.

If this question is so entry-level as to be insulting, then once again I apologize and will go try to get smart on this.

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Jul 26, 2007

Nix Panicus posted:

I would guess it means provide material support, i.e. money, healthcare, housing, etc, such that women aren't reliant on staying in the good graces of their employer to survive. Its impossible to come out against your abuser when your abuser controls whether you get to have a life or not. Material change might also include putting enforceable laws on the books that protect the victim from excessive intrusion, like interviewing 100 of her friends, family, casual acquaintances, third grade teachers and past employers to determine if they were a real rape victim or a Russian psi-op.

'Raising awareness' and 'calling people out' is dumb poo poo for idiots. PR campaigns don't accomplish lasting change, they just get co-opted by the already powerful.

Appreciate the answer here. This seems super obvious in retrospect. Thanks kindly, friend.

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