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For a game this complicated there aren't that many noob traps. The biggest ones are: 1.) Don't refine your 4* weapons right away, prototype drops are super rare and even gacha 4*s you'll often want 2x of the same weapon (Favonious/Sacrifical weapons especially). This is imo by far the biggest way players regularly hurt themselves. 2.) Don't use primos to roll on standard banner unless you know what you're getting into 3.) Don't do any artifact domains until at least AR40 (I'm still waiting until AR45) 4.) Don't spend stardust on anything except the in-shop 4* or maybe pulls. You're given extra stardust at the beginning of the game but you accumulate it very slowly, it takes something like 140 pulls to get enough stardust to buy another 4*.
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Sirbloody posted:Managed to get a Childe before pity last night and trying to figure out a decent team comp with him. I have 2 teams in mind but not sure how well they will work. Xingqiu is optional and in the abyss it would be more realistic to save that slot for whatever you need to counter the enemies. Taking turns between Diluc and Childe sounds pretty sweet because they can set each others' ults up so well. But if it were me I'd be trying to split my 5*s up into two separate teams. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Nov 12, 2020 18:33
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Sirbloody posted:I think I read somewhere that the water resonance isn't too good so it is not recommended to run 2 on a team.
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Nov 12, 2020 19:11
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It's a great idea but yeah the data's just not there yet. Boss drop scaling is so important for planning purposes and atm it's a black box. Right now I'm planning on doing zero bosses between AR45 and AR50 because they're the only thing besides world bosses that continue to scale past AR45.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:05
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The most optimal long-term way to spend your time after AR40 is to farm all of the weapon ascension mats you will ever need. I don't think I'm really that patient though.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:52
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I think you will have much more fun with 99% of the game tearing up the overworld with Childe. His abyss struggles are kind of real but I am much happier with Childe in the lead and Xiangling swapping to support. I'd only rather have Xiangling vs overleveled Fatui, Samachurls, and the wolf, Childe has a much easier time with everything else.
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Nov 12, 2020 22:32
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Elemental sight is annoying to use but you'll never find that violetgrass without it. If you want Xinyan start gathering it now!
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Nov 13, 2020 00:05
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Geomancing posted:If you're not interested in squeezing every last fraction of a percentage of damage out of a team composition, or going for that fraction of a second quicker completion time in the Spiral Abyss, do you have to worry about any of this stuff? I'm basically just playing for exploration, story, sidequests, that kind of thing.
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Nov 13, 2020 00:42
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kater posted:game bugged out and didn't open chapter ten of the adventure log after i finished chapter 9.
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Nov 13, 2020 13:10
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Elemental mastery is strong it's just hard to fit on your artifacts. Most offensive characters want pyro/lightning/physical % on their goblet and crit on their hat and most supports are more interested in energy recharge on their timepiece than EM. There are a few exceptions like Fishl where elemental mastery on timepiece is probably better but there are so few supports that would turn down 50% ult recharge. If your other artifacts haven't rolled you any crit substats and you don't have a crit weapon it might be better to go EM on hat than crit for support units, especially anemos. No Wave fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Nov 13, 2020 15:44
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you get 18 AR XP. He's supposed to very rarely drop a trivial amount of primogems but I've only gotten cabbages.
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Nov 13, 2020 17:37
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Jerry Seinfeld posted:Finally got a 5* gacha weapon, and it's this fuckin thing: That weapon is also generally known as BIS for Diluc for the same reason. No Wave fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Nov 13, 2020 20:56
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The reason is because the jump in rewards between 40 and 45 for artifacts is massive. You get more shots at the set you actually want and three times as many 5*s (which, long-term, will be all you care about). This means that one AR45 run is worth something like 1.5 AR40 runs in extremely rough terms (or even more in the ultra long term where all that matters is getting to see more golds). By comparison, every other reward scales by 20% or less between AR40 and AR45 and weapon mats don't scale at all after AR40. So you're better off doing the things that scale less now and the things that scale more later.
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Nov 13, 2020 21:55
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I don't mulch any 3 star weapons. Almost every 3 star weapon sucks but there's just no reason to. I mostly just use mystic enhancement ore but sometimes mulch all my 1 and 2 star weapons. There's no weapon ore equivalent for artifacts as the game wants you to run artifact domains a lot eventually.
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Nov 13, 2020 23:03
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berenzen posted:1 and 2 star weapons are fine to chew up, but there's quite a few 3* weapons that are better than 4* weapons for certain roles. Off the top of my head Thrilling Tales, Debate Club, Fillet blade, and skyrider sword will outscale a lot of 4* weapons until AR35 when the base stats of the weapons make enough of a difference to outperform the passives of those weapons. No Wave fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Nov 13, 2020 23:20
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gandlethorpe posted:Learned about a much better site than genshin.gg today: https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/
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Nov 14, 2020 01:38
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I'm more willing to believe that Mihoyo is making fake leaks. There's just too much off about this. They're launching a new region and having an event where you deal +60% damage to the enemies there? It's totally bizarre. There's no way they're releasing Amber as a 5*, they've been too competent.
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Nov 14, 2020 01:56
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kater posted:
First team is harder. You require water for the fatui so Xingqiu is a given. After that the biggest challenge is the whopperflowers. Idk if Noelle/Jean/Fishl can do enough damage but it's probably your only option for now.
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Nov 14, 2020 03:24
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I'd just hold onto it unless you really need it. Prototype Grudge is an extremely good support spear and you don't know who you'll pull in the future. Event details released: https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/news/detail/6751 The 60% damage amp makes the leaks from last page seem much more believable......
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Nov 14, 2020 14:03
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As someone who's been using Keqing for all of the game I was very happy with her story 5 and 6. She believes that Liyue should govern itself, but she relies on the example that Rex Lapis set in order to do so (which eventually ended up being exactly Rex's intention). I'm hoping some of that makes it into her story quest. EDIT: Found out something neat about gliders - the cross on the glider's back tells you where you're going to land if you move the camera directly above you and stop moving forward. Useful for that geronimo achievement. No Wave fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Nov 14, 2020 14:29
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Childe has two incredible tools. His normal attacks are amazing, they blow things up with riptide and give him tons of energy there's not much to it, you don't need more than 50% crit rate. The other one is his melee form Q does huge single-hit damage using one of the only elements that has a 2x damage amplifier reaction. You can get mona-level vaporizes using him very easily (and with a fatter multiplier). Xiangling is excellent for the first game plan, pyronado will get vaporizes through its entire duration and gyouba isn't useless. Bennett is imo currently the best at setting up vaporizes for Childe. This also means that depending on what you're biased towards his best weapon changes. Rust is great to buff his normals but doesn't have any special synergy with his Q, Stringless gives elemental mastery which boosts vaporize but doesn't do anything with his normal attacks. Viridescent Hunt is somewhere in the middle because it buffs both (by letting you use a crit dmg helm instead of a crit rate helm). Skyward Harp is just better than all of the above so obviously you'd use that if you had it. I'm currently using Rust but will be getting Viridescent Hunt for Fischl anyways so might try it out.
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Nov 14, 2020 18:08
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Last I heard Stringless didn't work with his normal attacks and only applied to the initial AOE... I haven't tested it though. I'd need the link because there isn't really an easy way to calculate how much damage 25% crit rate is, it's totally contingent on what your crit damage is. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Nov 14, 2020 18:18
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Kild posted:It's mostly for the burst damage since its such a huge multi. He's also using crit numbers that are just too low to accurate describe the crit rate weapons. He's using base crit rate and base crit damage which will make Hunt and Harp look substantially worse than they are. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Nov 14, 2020 18:28
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My bad, I misread it. The Stringless would pull insanely ahead of the other 4*s if his Qs were actually set up for vaporize as well due to its innate EM. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Nov 14, 2020 18:35
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Amuys posted:Well got C0 Childe from the pity but the only 4 star bow I got is the Favonious. Are the forgeable bows any good? No Wave fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Nov 14, 2020 20:31
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Helical Nightmares posted:I'm using Kaeya over Chongyun for my Cryo because I prefer the Sword moveset over the Greatsword. I've given Kaeya a 3 Star Fillet Blade (level 60) and I have two more Fillet Blades. Should I sacrifice the extra Fillet Blades to the main Fillet Blade for increased attack damage if Gash procs?
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Nov 14, 2020 20:37
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The advice to always have your characters ready to level never made sense to me. World bosses are extremely predictable, the only ones you could have real trouble with after fighting them a dozen times are Geo and Oceanid and that would be the first thing you're going to do after you raise your WL so it doesn't really make a difference if you do it before or after.
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Nov 15, 2020 00:16
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kater posted:Hey thanks yall and everyone for the tips but I have a real dumb thing to ask like... how do people use Barbara? I pulled Jean on the beginner banner so I've always used Jean for healing. And its very simple early game because she's a fine attacker and attacking heals and makes energy and you get the big heal and big damage and thats all simple things that you want to be doing. I'm not recommending Barbara second half because of her healing, it's because she has such an easy time taking all the abyss mage shields out which is something Klee can't really do. If you're uncomfortable with Barbara healing you can totally move Noelle or Jean onto the bottom as well if you don't need them top. Either way I wouldn't put any resources into Barbara if I were you, you have two other very high level healers and even Enviosity (a streamer who owns seven characters) hasn't leveled his Barbara past 50. No Wave fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Nov 15, 2020 |
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Nov 15, 2020 12:34
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zgrowler2 posted:As someone doing exactly this how punishing is the jump from WL3 to WL5? I've been putting off WL3 to WL4 for lack of exp books, dunno if that's ultimately counterproductive. I think I have enough banked to barely hit 38 if I did the quest now.
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Nov 15, 2020 14:09
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With 1.1 you can talk to the blacksmiths in each region to spawn crystals + magical crystals in every day. You can do the same with Draff in Springvale and Black Shoulder south of Liyue standing outside the mines. This can get you about 20 extra crystal per day (and a bunch of worthless magical crystals). If you're on a crystal farming day farm your crystals first, then spawn them in to maximize what you get.
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Nov 15, 2020 14:30
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You can try eating food (like Golden Crab and Adeptus' Temptation) to see if that helps. I know a lot of people use co-op as well. I've discovered the secret technique vs Cicin mages is to freeze them but it requires some specific characters.
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Nov 15, 2020 14:48
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I assume Beidou/Childe synergy is just Beidou Q then auto with Childe, full energy regen on Beidou and run a Fishl to build electro ult faster.Pierson posted:I mean between three expeditions a day and general collecting and other stuff it feels easy enough to get them, and a few hundred will take a weapon from 1-60 or so really quick. The new magic chunks that take up 10 resin seem like a much worse deal.
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Nov 15, 2020 15:21
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:Kinda torn whether to pull more on this banner. I'd enjoy any 4* constellation going up up UP, but I am at 54 pulls and scared I'll pull Childe... I'll probably throw in at least few more pulls, I guess. I love Childe, he's exactly the kind of character I like, but he's admittedly no help at all on floor 12. I was hoping the abyss would change this reset but there's no indication that will happen. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 15, 2020 |
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Nov 15, 2020 18:18
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The pass this week started on Wednesday so nobody will finish that BP quest without refreshing this week.
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Nov 15, 2020 20:21
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If you're planning on doing the Spiral Abyss you'll need to decide on how you want your second team set up. Razor is your main attacker unit for team 1, and you need to choose who your main attacker on team 2 should be. Your options look to be Jean, Xiangling (with the craftable Crescent Pike), or Ningguang. I only have any experience with Xiangling who's serviceable (got me to floor 11) but definitely a cut below Razor. Jean and Ningguang I know nothing about. Whoever you decide on will shape the rest of your decisions. You'll want to level that character to 80. After that your levels look pretty decent in general so I'm not sure where your resin should go, it will depend on how you want to split up your characters between the two teams. If you're not planning on doing abyss and are happy with how your team is doing just hold onto your books. You might pull a unit you really want to level up later on. No Wave fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Nov 15, 2020 |
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Nov 15, 2020 22:12
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Some Numbers posted:Is it worth spending Talent books on Xiangling's Skill and Burst if most of what I do with her is spam regular attacks? Talents that aren't worth upgrading are talents that don't do much (Midnight Phantasmagoria), talents for abilities you don't use (Venti's normal attack), or talents that upgrade attributes you don't care about (Frostgnaw).
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Nov 15, 2020 22:27
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C1 Bennett is really overemphasized. He is the same OP guy at C0. I owned C0 for a long time and got C1 recently and I haven't noticed any real difference. Imo C1 Diona is much more important than C1 Bennett.
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Nov 16, 2020 00:29
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The thing that I was not expecting when I used his ult was just how fast the healing was. It's totally unreasonable. His normal scaling and E scaling is pretty crap so I can understand why he was written off if people didn't build him and see just how busted the Q's healing was. I'm less sympathetic to anyone sleeping on energy recharge as a mechanic. Anyone with any MOBA experience should know how broken cooldown reduction is. No Wave fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 01:15
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Batigh posted:Hey, y'all, anyone have advice for dodging the Oceanid's water bombs? I-framing through them with bursts prevents the damage just fine, but it doesn't seem to count as 'not getting hit' for the new achievement. The same seems to be true for the 8-3 no-hit achievement, as i dodged the cryo flower's ice spin via burst i-frames once and (unless I didn't realize I got tagged later) that also didn't trigger.
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The demand for tier lists is very high because you have to invest so much into each character. You're going to be fighting an uphill battle with Kaeya main DPS vs Razor main DPS so I'm sympathetic to them. Like if people didn't discuss the metagame at all nobody would know about Crescent Pike Xiangling. It's fine making and using tier lists (especially tier lists by role) if you go to the effort of understanding why each character is where they are.
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