France, The French, & Macron Thread

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Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Toplowtech posted:

There was a lot more profit in looting foreign lands than in maintaining order at home. e: but yeah, fascism is colonialism at home.

Focault's Boomerang and all. Complete with how wild-eyed dictators are entirely optional, but the enforcement of 'civic order' and crackdown on anyone bringing up actual problems is not.

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Rigged Death Trap: Feb 13, 2012; BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Maya Fey posted:

not yet but

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1674959206422806528

ah yes it is both sides that have been radicalised.
not that one side was perpetrating wide ranging cruelty and abuse of power which boiled over.

The Two reigns of terror quote by mark twain comes to mind

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tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

both sides lol. that dumb oval office should stick to china news

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Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

Get it together frantz

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Jeff Fatwood: Jun 17, 2013

Egg Moron posted:

Get it together frantz

non

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HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

Egg Moron posted:

Get it together frantz

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KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

Is the French communist party doing anything? You'd think with violence and outrage like this now wpuld be the time to step forward

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

KomradeX posted:

Is the French communist party doing anything? You'd think with violence and outrage like this now wpuld be the time to step forward

the pcf has gone from 21% in '69 to 2% last year. it's probably all students now plus the odd seventy-year-old bus driver

# ? Jul 2, 2023 21:23

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

KomradeX posted:

Is the French communist party doing anything? You'd think with violence and outrage like this now wpuld be the time to step forward

they've been an eurocommunist non-entity for a long while now

# ? Jul 2, 2023 21:34

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

KomradeX posted:

Is the French communist party doing anything? You'd think with violence and outrage like this now wpuld be the time to step forward

They put out a communique denouncing violence on both sides. Eurocommunist parties aren't ready to handle this type of situations and doesn't seem like there's any sort of leftist org that can

# ? Jul 2, 2023 21:42

F Stop Fitzgerald: Dec 12, 2010

Honest Thief posted:

They put out a communique denouncing violence on both sides. Eurocommunist parties aren't ready to handle this type of situations and doesn't seem like there's any sort of leftist org that can

lol

# ? Jul 2, 2023 21:44

Popy: Feb 19, 2008

the dream died 30yrs ago

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

Popy posted:

the dream died 30yrs ago

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lobster shirt: Jun 14, 2021

what about LFI?

# ? Jul 2, 2023 22:03

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

https://twitter.com/phortuenti/status/1675576196904669184

If this is true things seem getting more serious than back in 2005

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Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

there won't be a revolution in the core

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Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

the french get too much rep over 1789 and a bit of rioting every couple of years

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KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

Honest Thief posted:

They put out a communique denouncing violence on both sides. Eurocommunist parties aren't ready to handle this type of situations and doesn't seem like there's any sort of leftist org that can

That's loving pathetic

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Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/phortuenti/status/1675576196904669184

If this is true things seem getting more serious than back in 2005

himars in france when

# ? Jul 3, 2023 03:14

Weembles: Apr 19, 2004

Palladium posted:

himars in france when

When the protests touch either the tour de france (which started on Saturday) or the bastille day parade in paris on the 14th.

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Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

R. Mute posted:

"Now that's enough...

Facing these savage hordes, asking for calm is no longer enough, it must be imposed!

Restoring the republican order and putting the apprehended beyond the capacity to harm should be the only political signals to give.

In the face of such exactions, the police family must stand together.

Our colleagues, like the majority of citizens, can no longer bear the tyranny of these violent minorities.

The time is not for union action, but for combat against these "pests". Surrendering, capitulating, and pleasing them by laying down arms are not the solutions in light of the gravity of the situation.

All means must be put in place to restore the rule of law as quickly as possible.

Once restored, we already know that we will relive this mess that we have been enduring for decades.

For these reasons, Alliance Police Nationale and UNSA Police will take their responsibilities and warn the government from now on that at the end, we will be in action and without concrete measures for the legal protection of the Police, an appropriate penal response, significant means provided, the police will judge the extent of the consideration given.

Today the police are in combat because we are at war. Tomorrow we will be in resistance and the government will have to become aware of it."

A whole lot of right wingers are using this as a signal to go full jackboot.

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Popoto posted:

https://twitter.com/canaldigitaln/status/1653094132548526098

wine bottle at 0:13

i say swears online posted:

thank u jesus

twitchcon is unaffected but video games are responsible for the unrest. something doesn't add up if you ask me

V. Illych L. posted:

the fireworks barrage footage was quite beautiful in a way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWAhOQgM5Vs

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Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/phortuenti/status/1675576196904669184

If this is true things seem getting more serious than back in 2005

Yeah, no they did some phone-network suppression already in 2005. Also they don't plan to cut the internet nationwide, just block phone and internet access locally during riots to make rioting "harder" for people who can't do poo poo without their phone.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

twitchcon is unaffected but video games are responsible for the unrest. something doesn't add up if you ask me

Yeah but you see, people who have no idea of how France works made a map of the riots locations (the banlieu surrounding Paris) and strangely it circles the location of the twitchcon location, which is in the center, in Paris proper. Crazy.

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

They need to wander about the national assembly, take some selfies, and go home.

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Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

I am glad to report that now the riots have ended, the authorities are taking great care to avoid inciting any more rio- Hold on, I'm getting an update...

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AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/07/06/france-set-to-allow-police-to-spy-through-phones_6044269_7.html

Lol I wonder how long they have had this technology.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 20:57

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/07/06/france-set-to-allow-police-to-spy-through-phones_6044269_7.html

Lol I wonder how long they have had this technology.

Honestly, most likely since there are phones.

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mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

https://twitter.com/ThatWeekInSNL/status/1498292052341268489

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Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

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AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

my man just went through a bad breakup and is swiping right on tinder as fast as he can

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Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

i say swears online posted:

my man just went through a bad breakup and is swiping right on tinder as fast as he can

Gotta find somebody to gently caress.

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Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

AnimeIsTrash posted:

the gangs all here

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lobster shirt: Jun 14, 2021

we have mobilized the world bank and imf (actionable threat)

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i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

lobster shirt posted:

we have mobilized the world bank and imf (actionable threat)

https://www.politico.eu/article/marrakech-morocco-stalls-earthquake-aid-offer-from-france-strained-relations/

quote:

Morocco stalls on French earthquake aid amid strained relations

An official visit by French President Emmanuel Macron to Morocco has been postponed several times.

PARIS � Two days after a devastating earthquake killed roughly 2,500 people, Morocco is still considering France�s emergency aid offer, in a fresh sign of tense relations between the two countries.

Rabat has accepted aid from several countries, including the U.K and Spain, but has so far not responded to an offer from Paris. Relations between France and Morocco have been strained for several months over issues of visas for Moroccan nationals, the recognition of Western Sahara and relations with Algeria.

On Monday, French Foreign Affairs Minister Catherine Colonna said accepting aid was a sovereign decision and dismissed the questions over France�s offer as �an inappropriate controversy.�

�Morocco hasn�t refused any aid, or any proposal. That�s not the way things should be presented,� she said on French channel BFMTV. Paris will also pledge �5 million for NGOs working in Morocco.

Frosty relations
Offers of help have been pouring in from countries across the world, including France, a former colonial power which is home to a large Moroccan diaspora.

On Saturday, French President Emmanuel Macron wrote that he was �devastated by the terrible earthquake� on X (formerly Twitter) and sent Morocco�s King Mohammed VI a letter of support and offer of aid, according to AFP.

But relations between the two countries have been frosty for several years, and Macron�s offer has yet to be answered, even though Morocco�s King Mohammed VI was in France when the quake struck, according to Colonna. Morocco does not currently have an ambassador in France and a visit by Macron to the kingdom has been postponed several times.

Overall, France has enjoyed good relations with Morocco in recent decades, better than with other former colonies such as Algeria, but a major point of tensions emerged in 2021, when France slashed the number of visas available for Moroccan citizens.

At the time, the French government argued that Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia were failing to cooperate in efforts to tackle illegal immigration. In particular, French officials accused these countries of refusing to take back migrants whose visa applications in France had been rejected.

France�s efforts to restore relations with Algeria, Morocco�s archrival in the region, have also marred relations between Macron and King Mohammed VI. The French president made his second official visit to Algeria last year in a bid to reset relations, which have historically been very acrimonious.

Algeria backs the Polisario Front, a group which has been fighting for decades for the independence of Western Sahara. Morocco wants France to recognize Western Sahara as Moroccan, something Paris has so far declined to do.