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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Ask/Tell > Business, Finance, and Careers > How Do I Get My Job To Create A New Management Position For Me?
 
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CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Moana is very correct in terms of approach and framing.

There is significant bias in most organizations, especially highly technical organizations, regarding managers without a bachelor's degree. Have you considered trying to complete a degree? It is quite possible that even if you successfully advocate as Moana suggests that you will not be considered qualified for the role that they develop.

Agree with KGJ and Moana on framing

Re: You must have a degree.
The only exception to the "manager titles MUST have degrees" in aerospace that I've witnessed is in a manufacturing environment where the manager's direct reports are all technicians. An example that comes to mind is a ~120 person aerospace assembly subcontractor that has machinists, machinist "leads" who are usually the most knowledgeable person about a particular type of machining, and all of those will report to managers who often used to be machinists/machinist leads. I think this is rscott's environment, but completely agree that there's still an aversion to this and they never make it to director, to be sure.

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CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Agreed, in a true production environment you have a shot, but it sounded to me like rscott was backoffice and not shop floor, which is tougher. You know aero better than I, though. It also sounds like rscott is looking for broad responsibilities rather than the route of "I am the God of [specific process/task] so therefore I manage everyone on [specific process/task] and don't do anything else"

Yea good point

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